Selected quad for the lemma: tradition_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
tradition_n	holy_a	know_v	scripture_n	1,758	5	5.8907	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A33945	The pulpit-guard routed, in its twenty strong-holds, or, A brief answer to a large and lawless discourse, written by one Tho. Hall ... intituled, The pulpit-guarded, with twenty arguments, pretending to prove the unlawfulness and sinfulness of private mens preaching ... his six arguments to prove their ministry free from anti-Christianism, rased, and six more asserted, proving them to be anti-Christian / written by Tho. Collier.	Collier, Thomas, fl. 1691.	1651 (1651)	Wing C5295; ESTC R9709	89,279	114

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election_n and_o ordination_n lie_v in_o the_o church_n and_o if_o ordination_n be_v so_o administer_v as_o you_o say_v the_o church_n appoint_v some_o of_o her_o member_n unto_o it_o they_o be_v a_o lawful_a presbytery_n to_o do_v it_o so_o far_o as_o the_o power_n accompany_v it_o etc._n etc._n you_o conclude_v if_o this_o be_v lawful_a than_o a_o fortiori_fw-la from_o the_o great_a you_o must_v needs_o be_v lawful_a learned_a orthodox_n divine_v their_o learning_n and_o greatness_n mend_v the_o business_n well_o you_o think_v though_o ignorant_a of_o or_o enemy_n unto_o the_o way_n truth_n church_n and_o minister_n of_o christ_n the_o case_n be_v alter_v now_o sir_n 5._o argument_n those_o minister_n that_o be_v elect_v prove_v ordain_v etc._n etc._n according_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o christ_n can_v be_v antichristian_a but_o our_o minister_n be_v so_o ergo._n answ_n your_o minor_a i_o deny_v you_o have_v no_o such_o election_n i_o have_v tell_v you_o already_o you_o have_v no_o church_n of_o christ_n but_o for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v ignorant_a rude_a deboist_a profane_a yet_o profess_v hypocrite_n yet_o second_o such_o as_o they_o be_v yet_o they_o never_o elect_v you_o before_o ordination_n but_o you_o for_o love_n of_o the_o tithe_n pig_n etc._n etc._n come_v and_o take_v they_o by_o violence_n and_o get_v their_o good_n from_o they_o by_o a_o law_n 2._o you_o be_v never_o prove_v viz._n of_o your_o knowledge_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o his_o way_n but_o of_o your_o learning_n if_o you_o have_v the_o language_n of_o the_o beast_n and_o the_o smoke_n of_o the_o pit_n it_o be_v enough_o and_o as_o for_o your_o ordination_n i_o have_v tell_v you_o already_o from_o whence_o it_o be_v i_o need_v say_v no_o more_o 6._o argument_n those_o minister_n which_o be_v direct_o opposite_a to_o the_o priest_n and_o shaveling_n of_o antichrist_n can_v be_v antichristian_a but_o we_o be_v so_o ergo._n answ_n you_o be_v so_o in_o some_o circumstantial_o not_o in_o the_o 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christ_n that_o we_o receive_v our_o conversion_n from_o sin_n to_o god_n in_o the_o public_a assembly_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o if_o conversion_n be_v a_o proof_n of_o a_o minister_n in_o office_n than_o woman_n may_v be_v minister_n in_o office_n or_o any_o man_n by_o who_o god_n convert_v for_o i_o believe_v yourselves_o dare_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o god_n be_v free_a in_o this_o thing_n and_o work_v by_o who_o and_o how_o he_o please_v 1_o cor._n 7._o 16._o joh._n 4._o 28._o you_o instance_n in_o paul_n prove_v his_o apostleship_n 1_o cor._n 9_o 2._o that_o be_v but_o in_o particular_a to_o they_o not_o that_o conversion_n of_o soul_n prove_v the_o office_n but_o the_o work_n i_o deny_v not_o but_o there_o may_v be_v some_o man_n of_o honesty_n and_o godly_a man_n though_o in_o darkness_n in_o part_n by_o who_o god_n may_v work_v for_o conversion_n yet_o this_o justify_v not_o the_o office_n 2._o if_o god_n do_v own_o his_o hidden_a one_o and_o afford_v his_o presence_n in_o time_n of_o ignorance_n yet_o now_o be_v time_n of_o light_n and_o he_o admonish_v you_o to_o repent_v 3._o most_o of_o the_o conversion_n you_o so_o much_o boast_v of_o be_v but_o a_o conversion_n from_o sin_n to_o duty_n not_o from_o sin_n to_o god_n as_o many_o can_v and_o have_v witness_v be_v with_o paul_n make_v partaker_n of_o another_o conversion_n both_o from_o sin_n and_o rest_v upon_o duty_n to_o god_n you_o seem_v to_o make_v much_o of_o our_o separate_n from_o you_o in_o time_n of_o reformation_n that_o its_o a_o great_a sin_n than_o many_o be_v aware_a of_o to_o separate_v from_o a_o church_n that_o profess_v so_o much_o readiness_n to_o conform_v to_o the_o rule_n and_o that_o never_o be_v separation_n from_o the_o church_n so_o unwarrantable_a as_o now_o it_o be_v etc._n etc._n answ_n

when_o you_o have_v but_o thought_n that_o your_o own_o interest_n will_v not_o stand_v who_o be_v turn_v traitor_n to_o their_o native_a country_n ready_a to_o join_v with_o scot_n or_o devil_n in_o the_o ruin_n of_o it_o yourselves_o or_o those_o you_o call_v anabaptist_n who_o be_v they_o at_o present_a that_o endeavour_n to_o kindle_v a_o fire_n in_o the_o neighbour_n nation_n to_o burn_v up_o their_o own_o yourselves_o or_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o a_o word_n who_o be_v they_o that_o refuse_v or_o at_o least_o murmur_n against_o promise_a fidelity_n to_o the_o magistrate_n in_o the_o common_a good_a yourselves_o or_o the_o anabaptist_n let_v truth_n be_v judge_n and_o acknowledge_v your_o mistake_n and_o be_v ashamed_a for_o ever_o thus_o gross_o to_o belie_v the_o truth_n and_o its_o servant_n lay_v your_o own_o blame_n and_o shame_n upon_o other_o man_n shoulder_n and_o put_v case_n there_o be_v any_o that_o pretend_v themselves_o to_o be_v christian_n in_o that_o profession_n you_o so_o much_o contemn_v that_o dishonour_n truth_n in_o any_o of_o these_o particular_n mention_v by_o you_o yet_o how_o dare_v you_o say_v they_o be_v such_o all_o of_o they_o lay_v the_o scandal_n upon_o the_o whole_a as_o if_o because_o there_o be_v one_o judas_n all_o the_o disciple_n must_v be_v hypocrite_n but_o sir_n if_o we_o shall_v judge_v of_o you_o after_o this_o manner_n we_o can_v say_v more_o of_o you_o than_o you_o shall_v ever_o be_v able_a to_o say_v of_o we_o i_o trust_v i_o can_v tell_v you_o of_o priest_n free-willer_n drunkard_n swearer_n whoremaster_n what_o not_o shall_v i_o therefore_o say_v you_o be_v all_o such_o man_n but_o i_o forbear_v at_o present_a only_o this_o take_v heed_n how_o you_o take_v the_o devil_n work_v upon_o you_o next_o to_o accuse_v the_o brethren_n if_o not_o i_o must_v speak_v more_o at_o large_a unto_o you_o as_o to_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o particular_n you_o mention_v as_o the_o twelve_o that_o christ_n die_v intentional_o for_o all_o i_o say_v he_o die_v for_o all_o although_o not_o intentional_o to_o save_v all_o for_o if_o he_o have_v intend_v to_o save_v all_o he_o have_v not_o fail_v of_o his_o intention_n 17._o that_o its_o unlawful_a to_o go_v law_n be_v this_o such_o a_o grievous_a error_n with_o you_o i_o answer_v 1._o that_o its_o chargeable_a to_o go_v to_o law_n and_o 2._o that_o the_o apostle_n reprove_v it_o as_o a_o sin_n and_o fault_n in_o the_o corinthian_n 1_o cor._n 6._o 2._o dare_v any_o of_o you_o have_v a_o matter_n against_o another_o to_o go_v to_o law_n before_o the_o unjust_a and_o not_o before_o the_o saint_n and_o yet_o you_o dare_v to_o upbrade_v the_o saint_n who_o dare_v not_o go_v to_o law_n and_o yet_o you_o belie_v they_o too_o in_o respect_n either_o of_o person_n or_o opinion_n 1._o of_o opinion_n they_o deny_v not_o go_v to_o law_n absolute_o but_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n when_o no_o other_o way_n or_o mean_n will_v serve_v and_o that_o too_o second_o when_o it_o tend_v to_o the_o prejudice_n of_o their_o livelihood_n and_o be_v 2._o of_o person_n it_o be_v not_o all_o but_o possible_o some_o few_o tender_a soul_n dare_v not_o own_o go_n to_o law_n in_o any_o case_n and_o i_o wish_v all_o be_v more_o tender_a in_o this_o respect_n although_o they_o become_v your_o reproach_n and_o scandal_n more_o than_o yet_o they_o be_v 18._o that_o war_n be_v unuseful_a etc._n etc._n answ_n first_o it_o be_v the_o judgement_n but_o of_o some_o and_o i_o believe_v of_o very_a few_o that_o war_n be_v altogether_o useless_a second_o their_o judgement_n be_v that_o war_n be_v useless_a in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o its_o useful_a only_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o world_n among_o man_n for_o the_o preservation_n of_o civil_a right_n and_o upon_o this_o account_n be_v they_o active_a in_o the_o present_a war_n so_o public_a as_o that_o i_o wonder_v how_o you_o can_v without_o shame_n and_o blush_a mention_n this_o particular_a but_o that_o you_o shoot_v your_o arrow_n so_o at_o random_n ●s_n that_o you_o neither_o fear_v or_o shame_n before_o god_n or_o man_n for_o those_o you_o brand_v with_o the_o name_n of_o anabaptist_n and_o independent_o have_v be_v and_o be_v the_o instrument_n by_o who_o god_n have_v give_v a_o be_v to_o yourselves_o and_o nation_n though_o man_n be_v blind_a and_o do_v not_o or_o will_v not_o see_v it_o three_o be_v you_o a_o enemy_n to_o the_o saint_n because_o they_o be_v man_n of_o peace_n and_o not_o of_o war_n and_o blood_n like_o yourselves_o four_o you_o discover_v much_o ignorance_n or_o wilfulness_n in_o your_o accusation_n of_o they_o or_o else_o you_o can_v not_o so_o contradict_v yourself_o in_o it_o in_o the_o seven_o tenent_n you_o say_v they_o be_v tumultuous_a and_o raise_v tumult_n in_o germany_n and_o fill_v it_o with_o the_o fire_n of_o sedition_n to_o the_o loss_n of_o six_o hundred_o thousand_o man_n and_o in_o the_o eighteen_o war_n be_v useless_a be_v there_o ever_o such_o contradiction_n hear_v and_o true_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o i_o credit_v not_o the_o relation_n of_o the_o german_a war_n i_o see_v how_o bold_a you_o be_v in_o lie_v while_o we_o be_v yet_o alive_a to_o give_v you_o answer_v that_o i_o can_v credit_v that_o relation_n the_o people_n be_v go_v and_o their_o adversary_n too_o relate_v it_o i_o rather_o think_v the_o priest_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o it_o as_o they_o be_v in_o this_o nation_n and_o be_o confident_a if_o they_o dare_v give_v a_o relation_n of_o thing_n to_o another_o age_n they_o will_v say_v as_o much_o of_o the_o anabaptist_n or_o rather_o of_o the_o baptize_v christian_n of_o this_o nation_n as_o they_o of_o old_a do_v of_o those_o in_o germany_n 19_o that_o all_o ordinance_n be_v legal_a that_o the_o spirit_n be_v all_o here_o you_o contradict_v yourself_o again_o if_o another_o shall_v have_v do_v so_o much_o you_o will_v have_v think_v he_o not_o in_o his_o right_a wit_n in_o the_o first_o you_o say_v their_o tenent_n be_v that_o none_o must_v be_v baptize_v until_o they_o come_v to_o perfect_a age_n and_o can_v make_v confession_n of_o their_o faith_n here_o they_o own_o baptism_n you_o confess_v yourself_o and_o in_o the_o 26._o you_o say_v their_o tenent_n be_v that_o after_o rebaptisation_n they_o can_v sin_v in_o which_o you_o belie_v they_o as_o much_o as_o ever_o the_o devil_n belie_v truth_n but_o i_o pass_v in_o the_o 19_o you_o say_v they_o deny_v all_o ordinance_n be_v not_o this_o contradiction_n true_o you_o teach_v people_n not_o to_o believe_v you_o and_o then_o you_o be_v angry_a with_o the_o people_n for_o it_o 20._o the_o magistrate_n must_v compel_v none_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n but_o must_v tolerate_v all_o ans_fw-fr can_v magistrate_n make_v man_n religious_a be_v it_o not_o the_o work_n of_o christ_n to_o make_v man_n christian_n and_o religious_a and_o to_o compel_v they_o by_o the_o power_n of_o love_n or_o be_v it_o the_o work_n of_o the_o magistrate_n i_o think_v where_o to_o have_v you_o at_o last_o within_o the_o border_n of_o rome_n and_o indeed_o sir_n be_v you_o come_v no_o far_o yet_o what_o a_o minister_n of_o christ_n and_o want_v the_o help_n of_o the_o magistrate_n to_o make_v christian_n to_o compel_v they_o to_o come_v in_o unto_o you_o and_o sir_n why_o may_v not_o a_o jesuit_n have_v as_o good_a a_o church_n as_o you_o if_o the_o magistrate_n must_v convert_v they_o compel_v they_o to_o come_v in_o and_o so_o you_o will_v have_v in_o all_o do_v you_o believe_v that_o its_o the_o work_n of_o god_n to_o convert_v and_o that_o he_o will_v take_v one_o of_o a_o city_n and_o two_o of_o a_o tribe_n and_o bring_v they_o to_o jerusalem_n how_o dare_v you_o then_o to_o bring_v in_o all_o by_o a_o magisterial_a power_n into_o the_o church_n unless_o you_o resolve_v to_o make_v they_o hypocrite_n and_o to_o damn_v they_o to_o the_o purpose_n or_o unless_o you_o see_v it_o stand_v for_o your_o profit_n and_o advantage_n the_o clothing_n and_o feed_n of_o your_o back_n and_o belly_n by_o the_o vulgar_a sort_n of_o people_n who_o be_v thus_o delude_v by_o you_o and_o as_o for_o toleration_n we_o desire_v not_o the_o magistrate_n to_o tolerate_v any_o in_o their_o wickedness_n and_o if_o any_o under_o the_o pretence_n of_o conscientious_a principle_n live_v and_o allow_v themselves_o in_o looseness_n baseness_n and_o profaneness_n let_v the_o sword_n of_o justice_n be_v draw_v for_o the_o execution_n of_o justice_n upon_o all_o such_o without_o respect_n of_o person_n or_o opinion_n and_o in_o it_o shall_v we_o rejoice_v 21._o that_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n be_v not_o three_o distinct_a person_n one_o in_o essence_n etc._n etc._n but_o sir_n