Selected quad for the lemma: soul_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
soul_n	body_n	call_v	mind_n	3,901	5	5.5903	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A27035	A second true defence of the meer nonconformists against the untrue accusations, reasonings, and history of Dr. Edward Stillingfleet ... clearly proving that it is (not sin but) duty 1. not wilfully to commit the many sins of conformity, 2. not sacrilegiously to forsake the preaching of the Gospel, 3. not to cease publick worshipping of God, 4. to use needful pastoral helps for salvation ... / written by Richard Baxter ... ; with some notes on Mr. Joseph Glanviles Zealous and impartial Protestant, and Dr. L. Moulins character.	Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691.	1681 (1681)	Wing B1405; ESTC R5124	188,187	234

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you_o may_v yet_o know_v it_o full_o from_o mr._n cook_n of_o chester_n a_o silence_a minister_n breed_v up_o in_o his_o house_n and_o sometime_o one_o of_o your_o old_a patron_n sr._n roger_n burgo_v nonconformist_n after_o many_o other_o at_o rockshal_n in_o warwickshire_n mr._n ball_n be_v not_o such_o a_o enemy_n to_o distinguish_v as_o to_o confound_v necessary_n ad_fw-la esse_fw-la officii_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la bene_fw-la esse_fw-la sect._n 19_o but_o p._n 124._o i_o be_o also_o bring_v as_o against_o myself_o for_o say_v that_o a_o minister_n personal_a fault_n do_v not_o allow_v people_n to_o separate_v from_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n 2._o nor_o all_o ministerial_a fault_n but_o only_o those_o that_o prove_v he_o and_o his_o ministration_n utter_o intolerable_a ans_fw-fr 1._o a_o strong_a proof_n that_o therefore_o the_o intolerable_a may_v be_v receive_v because_o i_o say_v no_o