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sense_n church_n true_a truth_n 3,714 5 6.3516 4 true
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A48900 A third letter for toleration, to the author of the Third letter concerning toleration Locke, John, 1632-1704.; Proast, Jonas. Third letter concerning toleration. 1692 (1692) Wing L2765; ESTC R5673 316,821 370

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