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which_o be_v diverse_o observe_v be_v as_o upon_o her_o garment_n august_n epist_n 86._o that_o the_o difference_n and_o variety_n of_o fasting_n or_o of_o day_n observe_v in_o diverse_a church_n or_o ceremony_n of_o like_a nature_n do_v not_o interrupt_v or_o impair_v but_o commend_v the_o unity_n and_o consonance_n of_o faith_n so_o say_v irenaeus_n euseb_n 5._o 24._o the_o like_a be_v in_o distinct_a 12._o cap._n 3._o scit_fw-la sancta_fw-la that_o if_o their_o be_v any_o matter_n of_o this_o quality_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o ground_a observation_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n it_o must_v be_v reduce_v to_o the_o doctrine_n &_o practice_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n again_o though_o their_o predecessor_n of_o simplicity_n or_o ignorance_n have_v err_v which_o by_o god_n mercy_n may_v be_v pardon_v to_o they_o in_o which_o case_n man_n ought_v not_o to_o observe_v what_o any_o man_n before_o they_o do_v think_v fit_a to_o be_v do_v but_o what_o jesus_n christ_n who_o be_v far_o before_o all_o do_v perform_v himself_o cypr._n epist_n 3._o lib._n 2._o legantur_fw-la plura_fw-la that_o ceremony_n and_o tradition_n such_o as_o fast_v on_o a_o certain_a day_n as_o on_o the_o lord_n day_n after_o that_o they_o have_v be_v usurp_v and_o abuse_v by_o detestable_a and_o damnable_a heretic_n as_o that_o be_v by_o the_o manichee_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v observe_v but_o disuse_v for_o the_o scandal_n thereof_o aug._n ep._n 86._o casul_n that_o all_o such_o ceremony_n and_o tradition_n which_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n neither_o establish_v by_o general_a counsel_n neither_o universal_o observe_v in_o the_o church_n but_o be_v vary_v innumerable_a way_n in_o diverse_a church_n which_o either_o for_o number_n do_v overload_v the_o church_n with_o a_o servile_a burden_n or_o for_o who_o continuance_n there_o can_v not_o be_v give_v a_o sound_a reason_n albeit_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v that_o they_o be_v contra_fw-la fidem_fw-la yet_o ubi_fw-la facultas_fw-la tribuitur_fw-la sine_fw-la ulla_fw-la dubitatione_n resecanda_fw-la existimo_fw-la they_o ought_v without_o staggare_v to_o be_v cut_v off_o when_o convenient_o they_o may_v say_v augustine_n epist_n 119._o cap._n 19_o januario_n that_o these_o caution_n in_o establish_v of_o ceremony_n be_v observe_v such_o ecclesiastical_a tradition_n as_o do_v no_o hurt_n unto_o the_o faith_n be_v so_o to_o be_v observe_v as_o they_o be_v deliver_v of_o the_o ancient_n neither_o aught_o the_o opposite_a custom_n of_o some_o overthrow_n or_o prejudice_n the_o custom_n of_o other_o do_v 12._o cap._n 4._o illud_fw-la out_o of_o hier._n epist_n 28._o ad_fw-la lucinum_n in_o the_o which_o epistle_n he_o conclude_v also_o thus_o vnaquaeque_fw-la provincia_fw-la abundet_fw-la in_o sensu_fw-la svo_fw-la touch_v ceremony_n let_v every_o country_n abound_v in_o their_o own_o sense_n presuppose_v their_o former_a caution_n that_o therein_o they_o impair_v not_o the_o faith_n that_o whatsoever_o be_v enjoin_v in_o any_o church_n which_o be_v neque_fw-la contra_fw-la fidem_fw-la neque_fw-la contra_fw-la bonos_fw-es more_o be_v neither_o opposite_a against_o faith_n neither_o yet_o good_a manner_n be_v to_o beholden_a as_o indifferent_a and_o to_o be_v keep_v according_a to_o their_o custom_n with_o who_o we_o live_v august_n epist_n 118._o cap._n 2._o januar._n that_o in_o matter_n whereof_o the_o scripture_n have_v determine_v no_o certainty_n the_o custom_n of_o god_n people_n be_v to_o be_v follow_v august_n epist._n 86._o that_o there_o be_v no_o rule_n or_o discipline_n better_o or_o more_o fit_a for_o a_o grave_n and_o prudent_a christian_a then_o to_o do_v after_o that_o manner_n as_o he_o see_v to_o be_v perform_v in_o that_o church_n to_o the_o which_o it_o fall_v out_o that_o he_o shall_v come_v aug._n epist._n 118._o this_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o such_o ceremony_n as_o before_o he_o say_v be_v not_o contrary_a to_o faith_n nor_o manner_n for_o of_o such_o he_o express_o speak_v and_o then_o also_o he_o presuppose_v a_o true_a church_n that_o into_o whatsoever_o church_n a_o man_n shall_v come_v he_o ought_v to_o observe_v the_o custom_n or_o ceremony_n which_o he_o find_v there_o to_o be_v in_o use_n if_o he_o will_v not_o give_v scandal_n to_o other_o neither_o receive_v scandal_n from_o other_o this_o be_v the_o counsel_n of_o ambrose_n to_o augustine_n on_o the_o behalf_n of_o his_o mother_n monica_n ego_fw-la verò_fw-la say_v augustine_n de_fw-fr hâc_fw-la sententia_fw-la etiam_fw-la atque_fw-la etiam_fw-la cogitans_fw-la ita_fw-la semper_fw-la habui_fw-la tanquam_fw-la eam_fw-la caelesti_fw-la oraculo_fw-la susceperim_fw-la epist_n 118._o cap._n 3._o that_o upon_o occasion_n of_o refusal_n of_o these_o matter_n cavendum_fw-la est_fw-la ne_fw-la tempestate_fw-la contentionis_fw-la serenitas_fw-la charitatis_fw-la obnubiletur_fw-la august_n epist_n 86._o the_o law_n of_o charity_n must_v moderate_v this_o controversy_n that_o if_o disputation_n be_v once_o admit_v on_o the_o one_o side_n from_o the_o diverse_a custom_n of_o some_o church_n to_o condemn_v other_o in_o these_o ceremony_n there_o will_v arise_v interminata_fw-la luctatio_fw-la a_o boundless_a struggle_a or_o contention_n which_o with_o toil_n of_o ianling_n will_v produce_v no_o conclusion_n of_o any_o certain_a truth_n agust_n epist_n 86._o that_o if_o on_o the_o other_o side_n man_n do_v labour_n to_o ground_v their_o particular_a ceremony_n on_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o apostle_n thence_o also_o come_v interminabilis_fw-la contentio_fw-la generans_fw-la light_n non_fw-la finiens_fw-la quaestiones_fw-la a_o in_o determinable_a contention_n breed_v strife_n without_o decide_v of_o the_o question_n idem_fw-la ibid._n that_o it_o be_v most_o evident_o opposite_a to_o faith_n and_o to_o sound_a doctrine_n for_o christian_n about_o the_o use_n or_o not_o use_v of_o these_o thing_n to_o censure_v one_o another_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o stand_n in_o true_a grace_n by_o judge_v one_o another_o to_o be_v unclean_a august_n epist_n 119._o cap._n 20._o thus_o of_o their_o doctrine_n now_o of_o their_o practice_n although_o the_o teacher_n of_o diverse_a church_n do_v vary_v very_o much_o in_o the_o judgement_n &_o practice_n of_o diverse_a ceremony_n as_o for_o example_n in_o the_o observation_n of_o fast_v some_o fast_v one_o day_n some_o two_o some_o more_o some_o forty_o as_o euseb_n 5._o 24._o as_o also_o in_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o day_n as_o of_o the_o day_n of_o easter_n some_o observe_v it_o on_o the_o lord_n day_n as_o the_o western_a church_n do_v some_o keep_v it_o on_o the_o fourteen_o of_o the_o month_n both_o side_n derive_v their_o practice_n from_o the_o apostle_n socrat._n 5._o 22._o yet_o for_o all_o this_o difference_n they_o be_v at_o unity_n one_o with_o another_o thus_o write_v irenaeus_n to_o victor_n eusebius_n 5._o 24._o they_o be_v not_o at_o discord_n one_o with_o another_o neither_o fall_v they_o out_o socrat._n 5._o 22._o they_o vary_v not_o among_o themselves_o about_o these_o trifle_a matter_n euseb_n 5._o 24._o they_o persuade_v not_o one_o another_o upon_o either_o side_n to_o practice_v other_o than_o they_o do_v euseb_n 5._o 24._o they_o use_v not_o a_o word_n of_o discord_n about_o this_o matter_n ibid._n they_o do_v not_o ever_o excommunicate_v one_o another_o for_o this_o difference_n euseb_n 5._o 24._o they_o do_v communicate_v on_o with_o another_o for_o all_o this_o difference_n socrat._n 5._o 22._o they_o part_v when_o they_o meet_v one_o from_o another_o in_o peace_n euseb_n 5._o 24._o they_o never_o divide_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n neither_o break_v they_o asunder_o the_o bond_n of_o amity_n socrat._n 5._o 22._o nor_o depart_v from_o their_o mutual_a communion_n sozom._n 7._o 19_o but_o all_o of_o they_o in_o their_o variety_n hold_v fast_o the_o bond_n of_o love_n and_o unity_n euseb_n 5._o 24._o and_o the_o reason_n be_v well_o add_v and_o express_v by_o sozom._n 7._o 19_o for_o they_o hold_v it_o quoth_v he_o a_o frivolous_a thing_n and_o that_o deseruerdly_a for_o those_o to_o be_v mutual_o separate_v from_o the_o benefit_n of_o either_o communion_n qui_fw-la in_o praecipuis_fw-la religionis_fw-la capitibus_fw-la consentirent_fw-la which_o agree_v in_o the_o chief_a and_o fundamental_a point_n of_o religion_n for_o neither_o say_v he_o shall_v you_o find_v the_o same_o tradition_n in_o all_o church_n alike_o in_o every_o point_n albeit_o they_o agree_v among_o themselves_o and_o to_o prove_v this_o he_o fet_v down_o a_o multitude_n of_o difference_n of_o diverse_a church_n both_o of_o discipline_n and_o ceremony_n they_o sharp_o reprove_v such_o euseb_n 5._o 24._o and_o bitter_o inveigh_v against_o they_o socrat._n 5._o 22._o as_o trouble_a the_o church_n by_o attempt_v to_o compel_v other_o church_n from_o their_o own_o ancient_a custom_n to_o their_o practice_n and_o for_o threaten_v they_o with_o excommunication_n for_o not_o obey_v their_o admonition_n as_o before_o we_o note_v they_o regard_v not_o
those_o excommunication_n neither_o obey_v they_o such_o admonition_n but_o persist_v in_o their_o course_n and_o so_o protest_v open_o that_o they_o will_v do_v euseb_n 5._o 23._o 25._o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o those_o time_n be_v place_v among_o much_o chaff_n and_o many_o tare_n do_v tollerat_o many_o thing_n which_o for_o the_o time_n she_o can_v not_o well_o amend_v &_o tamen_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la contra_fw-la fidem_fw-la say_v augustine_n vel_fw-la bonam_fw-la vitam_fw-la non_fw-la approbat_fw-la nec_fw-la tacet_fw-la nec_fw-la facit_fw-la yet_o neither_o do_v she_o approve_v conceal_v nor_o practice_v any_o thing_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o faith_n or_o good_a life_n epist_n 119._o cap._n 20._o they_o hold_v their_o ceremony_n not_o necessary_a but_o alterable_a for_o constantine_n send_v osius_n bishop_n of_o corduba_n to_o make_v a_o uniformity_n of_o observe_v easter_n sozom._n 1._o 15._o but_o osius_n return_v and_o can_v do_v nothing_o therein_o cap._n 16._o thereupon_o the_o necene_n council_n be_v by_o constantine_n gather_v wherein_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o eastern_a controversy_n be_v end_v and_o all_o conform_a in_o one_o order_n ibid._n namely_o to_o the_o order_n observe_v in_o the_o western_a part_n theodoret._n hist._n ecclesi_n 1._o 9_o fol._n 585._o they_o grieve_v and_o lament_v to_o behold_v many_o perturbation_n of_o weak_a christian_n to_o have_v be_v wrought_v partly_o by_o the_o contentious_a obstinacy_n partly_o by_o the_o superstitious_a timorousness_n quorundam_fw-la fratrum_fw-la of_o certain_a brethren_n which_o raise_v such_o contentious_a question_n about_o ceremony_n and_o matter_n of_o this_o nature_n which_o be_v neither_o ground_v on_o authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n nor_o on_o the_o general_a observation_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o be_v profitable_a for_o correction_n of_o life_n and_o manner_n in_o as_o much_o as_o they_o think_v nothing_o to_o be_v right_a but_o that_o themselves_o do_v august_n epist_n 118._o cap._n 3._o they_o grieve_v exceed_o to_o see_v many_o wholesome_a precept_n of_o divine_a scripture_n to_o be_v less_o regard_v and_o such_o abundance_n of_o presumptuous_a every_o where_n that_o they_o will_v more_o sharp_o reprove_v a_o man_n for_o the_o violate_v of_o a_o trifle_a ceremony_n than_o they_o will_v reprove_v a_o man_n for_o drunkenness_n august_n epist_n 119._o cap._n 19_o there_o be_v many_o such_o inconvenience_n which_o they_o dare_v not_o reprove_v more_o free_o than_o they_o do_v that_o they_o may_v avoid_v the_o offence_n and_o scandal_n partly_o of_o certain_a holy_a person_n and_o partly_o also_o of_o some_o other_o turbulent_a person_n ibid._n they_o practise_v the_o ceremony_n of_o every_o church_n wheresoever_o they_o come_v as_o they_o see_v they_o there_o practise_v and_o use_v so_o they_o be_v not_o opposite_a to_o faith_n and_o good_a manner_n so_o do_v ambrose_n and_o so_o do_v augustine_n and_o his_o mother_n monica_n at_o the_o persuasion_n of_o saint_n ambrose_n august_n epist_n 86._o &_o 119._o cap._n 3._o they_o persuade_v every_o church_n to_o follow_v she_o own_o custom_n sozom._n they_o persuade_v every_o minister_n compassionate_o to_o correct_v as_o much_o as_o in_o he_o do_v lie_v whatsoever_o be_v amiss_o and_o that_o he_o can_v not_o amend_v to_o bear_v it_o patient_o and_o with_o a_o tender_a and_o love_a affection_n to_o grieve_v and_o mourn_v at_o it_o august_n contra_fw-la parmen_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 2._o they_o persuade_v the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n every_o one_o of_o they_o to_o observe_v as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lie_v the_o ceremony_n &_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n wherein_o they_o do_v come_v or_o remain_v if_o they_o be_v not_o contra_fw-la fidem_fw-la aut_fw-la contra_fw-la bonos_fw-es more_o be_v ut_fw-la decet_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la prudentem_fw-la ac_fw-la pacificum_fw-la as_o become_v a_o prudent_a and_o peaceable_a some_o of_o the_o church_n august_n epist_n 118._o cap._n 5._o 7._o thus_o do_v ambrose_n teach_v and_o persuade_v augustine_n tell_v he_o that_o he_o will_v teach_v he_o none_o other_o than_o he_o practise_v himself_o et_fw-la si_fw-la melius_fw-la nosset_n id_fw-la potius_fw-la obseruaret_fw-la herein_o also_o do_v augustine_n and_o his_o mother_n rest_n this_o advice_n they_o reverence_v as_o a_o oracle_n and_o practise_v the_o same_o and_o thus_o the_o same_o saint_n augustine_n persuade_v other_o as_o namely_o casulan_n and_o januar._n to_o who_o he_o write_v epist_n 86._o &_o 118._o c._n 3._o last_o they_o teach_v unto_o man_n the_o doctrine_n and_o persuade_v they_o unto_o the_o practice_n of_o their_o christian_a liberty_n from_o all_o humane_a ordinance_n when_o by_o they_o it_o be_v endanger_v or_o question_v as_o also_o in_o a_o case_n of_o necessity_n or_o of_o superior_a reason_n so_o spiridion_n the_o b_o b._n of_o cyprus_n when_o his_o guest_n have_v nothing_o else_o to_o eat_v deny_v to_o eat_v pork_n flesh_n in_o the_o time_n of_o lent_n because_o he_o be_v a_o christian_a yea_o rather_o eat_v quoth_v he_o because_o thou_o be_v a_o christian_n for_o that_o all_o thing_n be_v clean_o to_o the_o clean_a sozom._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 11._o hist_o tripartit_fw-la 1._o 10._o of_o the_o like_a nature_n be_v that_o of_o augustine_n before_o allege_v epist_n 119._o cap._n 20._o and_o so_o much_o of_o the_o judgement_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o father_n out_o of_o the_o which_o i_o know_v it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o any_o man_n shall_v conclude_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o suffer_a deprivation_n for_o refuse_v inconvenient_a ceremony_n for_o my_o part_n i_o suppose_v it_o clear_o crush_v and_o quell_v in_o the_o uniform_a judgement_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a time_n neither_o true_o do_v i_o know_v or_o have_v ever_o read_v or_o hear_v any_o thing_n much_o differ_v from_o this_o which_o be_v here_o set_v down_o not_o that_o i_o make_v their_o judgement_n or_o practice_v the_o infallible_a rule_n of_o truth_n to_o over-rule_v and_o guide_v my_o conscience_n or_o the_o conscience_n of_o other_o by_o but_o it_o prove_v the_o point_n in_o question_n clear_o that_o namely_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o deprivation_n be_v opposite_a to_o all_o the_o best_a judgement_n the_o most_o spiritual_a and_o godly_a mind_v yea_o the_o most_o eminent_a light_n and_o must_v sanctify_a vessel_n of_o god_n grace_n after_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o primative_a church_n neither_o do_v i_o think_v that_o there_o be_v any_o better_a or_o many_o other_o than_o these_o to_o be_v find_v unless_o a_o man_n shall_v pick_v out_o the_o opinion_n of_o convince_a and_o condemn_v heretic_n and_o schismatic_n and_o for_o my_o part_n since_o i_o perceive_v this_o their_o uniform_a consent_n i_o dare_v not_o be_v peremptory_a or_o refractorie_a in_o dissent_v therefrom_o especial_o perceive_v withal_o the_o consent_a harmony_n of_o all_o our_o late_a writer_n and_o reform_a church_n to_o agree_v and_o jump_v with_o they_o both_o in_o doctrine_n and_o in_o practice_n of_o these_o thing_n and_o in_o matter_n of_o this_o nature_n which_o now_o in_o the_o next_o place_n by_o the_o help_n of_o god_n i_o will_v labour_v to_o make_v manifest_a second_o therefore_o i_o will_v prove_v the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o assumption_n namely_o that_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o leave_v one_o ministry_n by_o suffer_a deprivation_n for_o not_o conform_v to_o the_o ceremony_n prescribe_v be_v opposite_a unto_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o all_o true_a reform_a church_n and_o teacher_n or_o all_o classical_a writer_n that_o this_o point_n also_o may_v be_v make_v evident_a we_o must_v consider_v as_o we_o do_v before_o two_o point_n first_o of_o the_o estate_n of_o reform_a church_n in_o respect_n of_o ceremony_n next_o the_o judgement_n doctrine_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o most_o excellent_a teacher_n and_o 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cum_fw-la signatione_fw-la crucis_fw-la defendunt_fw-la ut_fw-la muller_n
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veste_fw-la linea_fw-la about_o the_o square_a cap_n and_o surplice_n epist_n 120._o fol._n 217._o again_o to_o melancth_v to_o that_o you_o say_v the_o magdeburg_n minister_n do_v move_v brawl_n about_o a_o linen_n garment_n only_o i_o see_v not_o whereto_o such_o brawl_n of_o they_o do_v appertain_v or_o tend_v a_o little_a before_o it_o may_v be_v some_o will_v urge_v some_o thing_n &_o as_o in_o contention_n it_o come_v to_o pass_v will_v odious_o ventilate_v some_o ceremony_n wherein_o there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o evil_a as_o they_o pretend_v epist._n 17._o fol._n 213._o also_o although_o at_o first_o caluin_n be_v demand_v his_o judgement_n de_fw-fr rebus_fw-la adiaphoris_fw-la of_o thing_n indifferent_a in_o the_o saxon_a church_n such_o as_o surplice_n etc._n etc._n do_v free_o manifest_v his_o judgement_n and_o admonish_v melancthon_n who_o some_o accuse_v as_o to_o soft_a and_o too_o remiss_a for_o he_o persuade_v to_o conformity_n rather_o than_o to_o suffer_v 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