a feeble Primacy the Pope had in those times besides his possibilities and actuality of erring euen in Catheà ra being so countermaunded reprooued and disobeyed by such incomparable Churches and teachers Secondly how dangerously the Papists put the iumpe of all their sempiternall expectations vppon the credit euen of the greatest clerkes which so vntruely falsly and corruptly relate the recordes of antiquity Next for the effect and abuse of these things in the people wee may easily see that if the fountaines bee troubled the streames cannot bee cleere as may appeare by that which followeth Many things commaunded in the holy Scriptures and of very holsome and good vse were lesse respected and cared for then many light matters whereof they ouerbouldly presumed August Epist 119. cap. 19. Many of them neglected and swallowed great things placing opinion of religion and shewing great diligence in following or practising such things as had in them small profit Hieronymus in Mattheum cap. 23. Many of them were obserued to bee troublesome to others by being caried on with a contentious obstinacy others by a superstitious timorousnesse about such trifles as neither were comfirmed by authority of the holy Scripture nor by the custome of the Church in generall neither serued for any profit to the amendment of life and manners August Epist 118. cap. 3. As for example they were very superstitious and precise in bearing about certaine little peeces of the Gospels and of the wood of the crosse istiusmodi rebus and in the like things and vsque bodié factitant doing it euen to that day hauing the zeale of God but not according to knowledge straining at a gnat and swallowing a Cammell Hieron in Matt. cap. 23. They were maruelous precise in their fastings for on their fasting dayes they would eate no oile nor bread but figges pepper nutts dates flower hony pistachia all herbes and fruits growing in the garden delicias and other delicates they would not drinke water but they would haue instead thereof sorbitiunculas delicatas delicate suppings and the Iuice of herbes pressed out and that not in a cup but in the shell of a Sea-fish they sought famam abstinentiae in delitijs commendation of their abstinence by vsing delicates Hierom. calleth these things ineptiae superstitiones Ieiunium superstitiosum in Epist ad Neapot They censured such as dined on the Sabbath soberly and did not fast as the manner of some places was that namely they were in the flesh and could not please God that they were wicked persons belly mongers and that they sauoured of the flesh and of death and their voice was this recedant a me iniqui viam eorum esse nolo and they separated from them Aug. Epist 86. ad Casulanum They would not serue God in a temple once abused to Idolatry neither eate any herbes growing in the garden nor drinke any water running from the fountaine of an Idoll-temple Idem Epist 154. Publicol They would more sharpely reprooue a man qui per octauas suas terram nudo pede tetigerit Who during the time of their octaues should touch the ground with his bare feete then a man which was with wine starke drunke Idem Epist 119. cap. 19. Some of them did absteine from eating flesh with such a mind as that they iudged those persons vncleane which did eat thereof This Augustine writeth out of the report of Ianuar. Epist 119. cap. 20. and giueth his censure thereof that namely apertissimé contra fidem sanamque doctrinam est In a word many of them out of their owne fancies or from the custome of other places did cause such litigious questions about these matters vngrounded in the Scripture and vnprofitable in their nature that they thought nothing right which they did not themselues August Epist 118. cap. 3. And thus in part we see a small glimse of the state of the Primatiue Church of Christ which we commonly account and is heere extended from the daies of the Apostles vntil the time of S. Augustine or there about For afterwards the same which then was clouded declined vnto darke night and we will descend no lower knowing that iust exception might be taken at it in this argument Now in the next place we will giue a taste of the doctrine and practise of the Fathers and the faithfull in the middest of these corruptions that we may see how the doctrine of suffering depriuation for inconuenient ceremonies farre more for number and worse for qualitie then ours are pretended hath by them beene proposed and practised Touching their doctrine of this point thus they taught That the Apostles driftin their writings was not to set downe Canons and Decrees concerning Feasts and Holidaies or such like Ceremonies of the Church but to set downe a president of pietie good life and godly conuersation Socrat. 5. 22. Seeing there is no man able to shew any president or record in writing of fasting daies or the like traditions it is euident that the Apostles did leaue free choice and libertie to euery Church at the discretion thereof without feare compulsion and constraint to vse that which seemeth good and commendable for it selfe ibid. the like doth Augustine Epist 86. speake of fasting They obserued three sorts of Traditions or Ceremonies in the Churches of their times First such as Christ left to his Church expresly set downe in the Canonicall Scriptures which Augustine calleth an easie yoke and light burthen very few for the number very easie for the obseruation very excellent for signification he mentioneth onely baptisme and the Lords Supper whereby hee hath knit together the society noui Populi of the new Church Secondly such Traditions or Ceremonies in the Churches of their times as are not written but deliuered and are obserued throughout the whole world supposed to proceed from the Apostles or from the prescription of generall Councells whose authority was wholesome quoth he to be esteemed of such as the dayes obserued yeerely to the memoriall of Christ his passion resurrection asension and descension of the holy Ghost commonly called Pentecost or Whitsontide Thirdly such as in diuers parts and places of the world are obserued diuersly as for example that some doe fast on the Sabboth others doe not so some doe daily receiue the Communion other receiue it on certaine dayes In some places it is celebrated on all dayes without exception other where onely on Saturne dayes and on the Lords day Et si quid aliud huiusmodi animaduerti potest totum hoc genus rerum liberas habet obseruationes August Epist 118. cap. 1. 2. Ianuar. That there ought of necessity one faith to be spread ouer the whole Church as the soule within the members albeit this vnitie of faith be celebrated and solemnized with diuers obseruations by which diuersity that which is true in the substance of faith nullo modo impeditur is no way hindred because all the beautie of the Kings daughter is within but the outward Ceremonies
deuided and the course of the Gospel hindred and interrupted to aske and seeke the iudgement of other true Churches and Teachers about the case in question As the Apostles did in Act. 15. 2 3 4 6. and the Primitiue ages following after their example also did imitate as their duty was Ph. 3. 17. and 4. 8 9. in which case if the iudgment of one two or twenty Churches be to be harkned to and not despised or contradicted rashly how much lesse the iudgement of all true Churches of all times and places Now for a few persons of one Prouince as of England and of one season to sway against all Churches to condemne their doctrine and practise of sinne and error is against this ordinance of God and the way to error Because the swaying against the iudgement and practise VIII of all Churches and Teachers is against the equity of many forcible and maine reasons For 1 Who are more likely to know the trueth euen in such a point as this then the whole company of such First who are indued with the most excellent gifts in the Church and greatest degrees of knowledge and vnderstanding of Gods word and with meanes tending thereunto doe not the best sights best iudge of colours Secondly who are and haue been endued with greatest degrees of euident sanctity Thirdly whose labours haue beene most of all blessed of God for the conuersion of soules for the ouerthrow of sinne and Antichrist and Heresies Fourthly who haue liued and died most comfortably in the Lord If a man should not rest in the iudgements of the whole company of such where should he rest or what peace or assurance shall hee haue to haue all these so many as all and so incomparable persons his aduersaries as in condemning such for sinners and false Teachers 2 No one point of error can be shewed which is established by this rule namely by the consent of iudgement and practise of all Churches primitiue and reformed latter For albeit some faithfull persons and some true Churches may differ from some other in sundry points and thereby there must needes bee error in one part or other yet it were hard for a few priuate persons to conuince them all of errour in a matter wherein they all agree if they were in errour is it not strange no age should bee able to discerne it 3 Such as haue wilfully and professedly differed from this rule haue beene found to haue beene New-fangles Heretickes Schismatickes and prophane persons such as Donatists Anabaptists Brownists Arians Famelists and the like and are of infinite varieties one from another and therefore all or the very most must needes bee an errour for there is but one trueth 4 By the reiecting of this rule euery Sect maketh a way open to their owne contempt For if the iudgement of so reuerend and so excellent lights and agreement of them all is to bee despised and reiected by any particular why should not others reiect and contemne them and their iudgement the matter being difficult and of disputable nature and themselues being so many thousand degrees behind the person whom they thus despise in their worth or number 5 It opens a doore to singularitie noueltie and of endlesse differences errors and contentions and leaues no rule of Peace or of ending dissentions in the Church of God For if one may vnder colour of trueth teach and practise what he list in his diuersitie why may not another do the like or what rule will there be to compose the dissention that doe and will arise in the Church which one part hauing the trueth may vrge vnto the other voyd of truth why should hee rather follow this part then that wherefore in this case wee are to note that no priuate person or persons may raise vp any new opinion and pretend Scripture for it and so propose it for a Doctrine and a truth in the Church though hee condemne the whole Church beside for an error and a sinne Because as the Scriptures are not of priuate interpretation so Gods Spirit is not priuate but generall to all the faithfull Thus wee see this doctrine of swaying against all true Churches and Teachers of all ages and places and condemning them of sinne and error is false doctrine Whereupon also it followeth secondly that it is a sinne which also appeareth further I Because Dauid doth iudge himselfe that he trespassed in that he being a priuate man condemned and censured all the generation of Gods children Psal 73. 13. 14. 15. Againe because God laieth a woe vpon the practise of taking away the righteousnesse of the righteous from him Esa 5. 23. or of condemning the iust Pr. 17. 15. But that doctrine practise which laieth a sin vnto the charge of all Gods Church takes away their righteousnes and condemnes them in that point Therefore it is a sinne euen of bearing false witnesse against the whole congregation of neighbours 2 Because the censuring of all true Churches for a sin or of false Doctrine is contrary to the Commandements of God who would haue the Teachers obeyed and hearkened vnto which doe teach and define secundum legem as aboue I noted Heb. 13. 17. Deut. 17. 9 10 11 12. and would haue the rest to iudge of the words of a few which prophesie 1. Cor. 14. 29. 32. and of the commandement of walking in the wayes of good men Pro. 2. 20. Phil. 3. 17. and 4. 9. It is also contrary to the practise of the holy Apostles who determined one Churches differences by another Act. 15. 2. as before I noted 3 Because this Doctrine is the ground and mother of schisme For S. Paul noteth that they cause diuision and offences that teach and practise contrary to the doctrine which the whole Church hath receiued especially from the Apostles Rom. 16. 17. Therefore this doctrine is a sinne Obiect Against this point it is alleadged first that it is a Popish ground to make the Church the ground of our Faith It contradicteth the Doctrine of our Churches against the Papists Answ This point includeth no Popish ground nor doeth it contradict the Doctrine of our Churches against the Papists For the Churches desire nothing so much against the Papists then that they would grant the elect and faithfull to bee the onely Church and then that they would stand to the iudgement determination and practise of such as are faithfull in all ages But that this may the better appeare to bee no Popish ground Wee are to note 1 The Papists vnderstand the Church to consist onely of persons in office and those often hereticall sacrilegious and prophane persons such as their Popes Cardinalls carnall Bishops Wee the only faithfull in all times and places whether in office or not 2 They vrge Apocriphall and basterd Fathers for the patronage of their errors Wee the vndoubted writings of the approued Fathers 3 They vrge the Fathers errors and things wherein they differ we their truth
which are diuersly obserued are as vpon her garment August Epist 86. That the difference and variety of fastings or of dayes obserued in diuers Churches or Ceremonies of like nature doth not interrupt or impaire but commend the vnity and consonance of faith so saith Irenaeus Euseb 5. 24. the like is in Distinct 12. cap. 3. scit Sancta That if their be any matter of this quality which is contrary to the grounded obseruation of Christ and his Apostles It must be reduced to the doctrine practise of Christ and his Apostles againe though their predecessours of simplicitie or ignorance had erred which by Gods mercy might be pardoned to them in which case men ought not to obserue what any man before them did thinke fit to be done but what Iesus Christ who is farre before all did performe himselfe Cypr. Epist 3. lib. 2. Legantur plura That Ceremonies and Traditions such as fasting on a certaine day as on the Lords day after that they haue beene vsurped and abused by detestable and damnable Heretikes as that was by the Maniches ought not to be obserued but disused for the scandall thereof Aug. Ep. 86. Casul That all such Ceremonies and Traditions which are not contained in the holy Scriptures neither established by general Councels neither vniuersally obserued in the Church but are varied innumerable waies in diuers Churches which either for number did ouerload the Church with a seruile burthen or for whose continuance there could not be giuen a sound reason albeit it doe not appeare that they be contra fidem yet vbi facultas tribuitur sine vlla dubitatione resecanda existimo They ought without staggaring to bee cut off when conueniently they may saith Augustine Epist 119. cap. 19. Ianuario That these cautions in establishing of Ceremonies being obserued such Ecclesiasticall Traditions as do no hurt vnto the faith are so to be obserued as they are deliuered of the auncients neither ought the opposite custome of some ouerthrow or preiudice the custome of other dist 12. cap. 4. Illud out of Hier. Epist 28. ad Lucinum In the which Epistle hee concludeth also thus Vnaquaeque prouincia abundet in sensu suo Touching Ceremonies let euery Countrey abound in their owne sence presupposing their former caution that therein they impaire not the faith That whatsoeuer is inioyned in any Church which is Neque contra fidem neque contra bonos more 's neyther opposite against faith neyther yet good manners is to beholden as indifferent and to be kept according to their custome with whom wee liue August Epist 118. cap. 2. Ianuar. That in matters whereof the Scripture hath determined no certainty the custome of Gods people is to be followed August Epist. 86. That there is no rule or discipline better or more fit for a graue and prudent Christian then to doe after that manner as he seeth to be performed in that church to the which it falleth out that he shal come Aug. Epist. 118. This is to be vnderstood of such Ceremonies as before he saith are not contrary to faith nor manners for of such hee expresly speaketh and then also he presupposeth a true Church That into whatsoeuer Church a man shal come he ought to obserue the customes or Ceremonies which hee findeth there to be in vse if he will not giue scandall to others neither receiue scandall from other This was the counsell of Ambrose to Augustine on the behalfe of his mother Monica Ego verò saith Augustine de hâc sententia etiam atque etiam cogitans ita semper habui tanquam eam caelesti oraculo susceperim Epist 118. cap. 3. That vpon occasion of refusall of these matters Cauendum est ne tempestate contentionis serenitas charitatis obnubiletur August Epist 86. The law of charity must moderate this controuersie That if disputation bee once admitted on the one side from the diuers custome of some Churches to condemne others in these Ceremonies there will arise interminata luctatio a boundlesse strugling or contention which with toile of ianling will produce no conclusions of any certaine truth Agust Epist 86. That if on the other side men do labour to ground their particular Ceremonies on the authoritie of the Apostles thence also commeth interminabilis contentio generans lites non finiens quaestiones an in determinable contention breeding strife without deciding of the question Idem ibid. That it was most euidently opposite to faith and to sound doctrine for Christians about the vsing or not vsing of these things to censure one another in respect of their standing in true grace by iudging one another to be vncleane August Epist 119. cap. 20. Thus of their doctrine Now of their practise ALthough the teachers of diuers Churches did vary very much in the iudgement practise of diuers Ceremonies as for example in the obseruation of fasting some fasting one day some two some more some fortie as Euseb 5. 24. as also in the celebration of the daies as of the daie of Easter some obseruing it on the Lords day as the Westerne Churches did some keeping it on the foureteenth of the moneth both sides deriuing their practise from the Apostles Socrat. 5. 22. yet for all this difference they were at vnitie one with another thus writeth Irenaeus to Victor Eusebius 5. 24. they were not at discord one with another neither fell they out Socrat. 5. 22. they varied not among themselues about these trifling matters Euseb 5. 24. they perswaded not one another vpon either side to practise other then they did Euseb 5. 24. they vsed not a word of discord about this matter ibid. they did not euer excommunicate one another for this difference Euseb 5. 24. they did communicate on with another for all this difference Socrat. 5. 22. they parted when they met one from another in peace Euseb 5. 24. they neuer deuided the Communion of the Church neither brake they asunder the bonds of amitie Socrat. 5. 22. nor depart from their mutuall Communion Sozom. 7. 19. but all of them in their variety held fast the bond of loue and vnitie Euseb 5. 24. and the reason is well added and expressed by Sozom. 7. 19. for they held it quoth he a friuolous thing and that deseruerdly for those to be mutually separated from the benefit of eithers Communion Qui in praecipuis religionis capitibus consentirent which agreed in the chiefe and fundamentall points of religion For neither saith he shall you finde the same traditions in all Churches alike in euery point albeit they agree among themselues and to proue this hee fetteth downe a multitude of differences of diuers Churches both of discipline and Ceremonies They sharpely reproued such Euseb 5. 24. and bitterly inueighed against them Socrat. 5. 22. as troubled the Church by attempting to compell other Churches from their owne auncient custome to their practise and for threatning them with excommunication for not obeying their admonition as before we noted They regarded not
those excommunications neither obeyed they such admonitions but persisted in their course and so protested openly that they would do Euseb 5. 23. 25. The Church of God in those times being placed among much chaffe and many tares did tollerat many things which for the time she could not well amend tamen quae sunt contra fidem saith Augustine vel bonam vitam non approbat nec tacet nec facit yet neither did she appoue conceale nor practise any thing which is contrary to the faith or good life Epist 119. cap. 20. They held their Ceremonies not necessary but alterable for Constantine sent Osius Bishop of Corduba to make an vniformitie of obseruing Easter Sozom. 1. 15. but Osius returned and could doe nothing therein cap. 16. thereupon the Necene Councill was by Constantine gathered wherein the matter of the Easterne controuersie was ended and all conformed in one order ibid. namely to the order obserued in the Westerne part Theodoret. Hist. Ecclesi 1. 9. fol. 585. They grieued and lamented to behold many perturbations of weake Christians to haue beene wrought partly by the contentious obstinacy partly by the superstitious timerousnesse quorundam fratrum of certaine brethren which raised such contentious questions about Ceremonies and matters of this nature which were neither grounded on authoritie of holy Scripture nor on the generall obseruation of the Church nor were profitable for correction of life and maners in as much as they thought nothing to be right but that themselues did August Epist 118. cap. 3. They grieued exceedingly to see many holesome precepts of diuine Scripture to bee lesse regarded and such aboundance of presumptuous euery where that they would more sharpely reproue a man for the violating of a trifling Ceremonie then they would reproue a man for drunkennesse August Epist 119. cap. 19. There were many such inconueniences which they durst not reproue more freely then they did that they might auoid the offence and scandall partly of certaine holy persons and partly also of some other turbulent persons ibid. They practised the Ceremonies of euery Church wheresoeuer they came as they saw them there practised and vsed so they were not opposite to faith and good maners so did Ambrose and so did Augustine and his mother Monica at the perswasion of Saint Ambrose August epist 86. 119. cap. 3. They perswaded euery Church to follow her owne custome Sozom. They perswaded euery Minister compassionately to correct as much as in him did lye whatsoeuer was amisse and that hee could not amend to beare it patiently and with a tender and louing affection to grieue and mourne at it August contra Parmen lib. 3. cap. 2. They perswaded the members of the Church euery one of them to obserue as much as in them lie the ceremonies customes of the Church wherin they did come or remaine if they be not contra fidē aut contra bonos more 's vt decet ecclesiae prudentē ac pacificū as becommeth a prudent and peaceable some of the Church August Epist 118. cap. 5. 7. thus did Ambrose teach and perswade Augustine telling him that he would teach him none other then he practised himselfe Et si melius nosset id potius obseruaret herein also did Augustine and his mother rest this aduise they reuerenced as an Oracle and practised the same and thus the same Saint Augustine perswaded others as namely Casulan and Ianuar. to whom he wrote Epist 86. 118. c. 3. Lastly they taught vnto men the doctrine and perswaded them vnto the practise of their Christian libertie from all humane ordinances when by them it was endangered or questioned as also in a case of necessitie or of superior reason so Spiridion the B B. of Cyprus when his guest hauing nothing else to eate denied to eate Porke flesh in the time of Lent because hee was a Christian yea rather eate quoth hee because thou art a Christian for that all things are cleane to the cleane Sozom. lib. 1. cap. 11. Hist tripartit 1. 10. of the like nature is that of Augustine before alleadged Epist 119. cap. 20. And so much of the iudgement and practise of the Primitiue Churches and fathers out of the which I know it is not possible that any man should conclude the doctrine of the necessitie of suffering depriuation for refusing inconuenient Ceremonies for my part I suppose it clearely crushed and quelled in the vniforme iudgement and practise of the Primitiue times Neither truely doe I know or haue euer read or heard any thing much differing from this which is here set downe not that I make their iudgement or practise the infallible rule of trueth to ouerrule and guid my conscience or the consciences of others by but it proueth the point in question clearely that namely the doctrine and practise of depriuation is opposite to all the best iudgements the most spirituall and Godly minded yea the most eminent lights and must sanctified vessels of Gods grace after the times of the Apostles in the Primatiue Churches Neither doe I thinke that there were any better or many other then these to bee found vnlesse a man should picke out the opinions of conuinced and condemned Heretikes and Schismatikes And for my part since I perceiued this their vniforme consent I durst not bee peremptory or refractorie in dissenting therefrom especially perceiuing withall the consenting harmony of all our later writers and reformed Churches to agree and iumpe with them both in doctrine and in practise of these things and in matters of this nature which now in the next place by the helpe of God I will labour to make manifest Secondly therefore I will prooue the second part of the assumption namely that the doctrine and practise of leauing ones ministerie by suffering depriuation for not conforming to the Ceremonies prescribed is opposite vnto the doctrine and practise of all true reformed Churches and teachers or all classicall writers That this point also may bee made euident wee must consider as wee did before two points first of the estate of reformed Churches in respect of Ceremonies Next the iudgement doctrine and practise of the most excellent teachers and classicall writers of our time The former of these points will teach vs that the estate Point 1. of reformed Churches in respect of inconuenient Ceremonies exceedeth ours supposing ours to bee inconuenient as is pretended in three points euen in number nature and effect For the Ceremonies of other reformed Churches are for number more and for their nature and effect much worse whereof the intelligent Reader may easily vnderstand in considering some of their particular Ceremonies which I here set downe Touching Baptisme THey doe vse the signe of the Crosse in the Danish and Lutheran Churches Heming syntag 4. lege Decalog § 3. fol. 365. They doe vse exorcisme in Baptisme planè Papistico more ibid. Putaeus lib. 2. exercit 24. fol. 170. Lutherani exorcismum cum signatione crucis defendunt vt Muller
Aharonicall garments but onely in obedience to the King his Maiestie and those with whom God hath left authoritie to determine of externall Rites of the Church yet according to Gods word and further that they doe it to auoid the scandall of troubling the publike order and agreement and last of all testifying to godly men that euery creature of God is good and therefore all Christians may vse such things godly howsoeuer others haue impiously abused them Idem ibid. in Epistol ad Cranmer fol. 682. Againe I can by no meanes affirme these garments by Antichrists abuse to bee so defiled that they are not to bee permitted to any Church notwithstanding that that Church knoweth and worshippeth Christ and withall knoweth and practiseth the Christian libertie of all things Neither doe I see any Scripture whereby I may defend this condemnation of the good creature of God Ibid. in Respons ad liter as Hooperi de re vestiariaÌ„ fol. 707. To make it impium perse an euill thing in nature for a man to vse these garments in Gods seruice in any respect I see no Scripture to permit or affirme so much ibid. fol. 709. § Againe I verely as I haue confessed vnto you and declared to our Countreymen had rather that no kind of vesture which the Papists vsed were reteined amongst vs for the more full detestation of the Antichristian Priesthood for plainer aduouching of Christian libertie for the auoyding of dangerous contention among the Brethren Yet I cannot be brought by any Scriptures as farre as to see hitherto to denie that the true Ministers of Christ his Church may vse without superstition and to a certaine edification of faith in Christ any of those vestures which the Antichristians abused Idem in Epist Io. Alasco at the ende of the examination a booke so named and written in answere of a booke called the vnfolding of the Popes attire Againe I know very many Ministers of Christ most godly men who haue vsed godly these vestures and at this day doe vse them So that I dare not for this cause ascribe vnto them any fault at all much lesse so hainous a fault as communicating with Antichrist For the which fault wee may vtterly refuse to communicate with them in Christ Ibid. Peter Martyr Seeing these garments are things in different and in themselues good they neither make any man godly nor wicked yet as you also thinke I iudge it rather expedient that these garments and other things of that kind be remooued when conueniently they may that matters of the Church may much more simply bee perfourmed Loc. com ad finem inter Epist. Amico fol. 1085. Againe the reasons by you Bishop Hooper alleadged perswade me not to holde the vse of these garments to bee pernitious or in their nature contrary to the word of God which I suppose to be altogether indifferent being not ignorant of this that things indifferent may sometimes be vsed and sometimes should bee remooued Ibid. Hoopero fol. 1086. Againe albeit I doe but slenderly approue these of garments yet I perceiue somtimes that some indifferent things albeit troublesome and burde some yet must needs bee borne with thus farre foorth as wee cannot doe otherwise lest if it be contended more bitterly then it ought to be it prooue to be an hinderance vnto the Gospel and by our vehement contention we teach those things to be impious which in their nature are indifferent Ibidem Againe surely to mee it should bee farre more pleasing as I haue often testified that wee might onely doe those things which Christ himselfe practised and deliuered to his Apostles Howbeit if some indifferent things be added such as the Surplesse I would not haue men too eagerly to contend about this matter especially when we see those by whom the light of the Gospel is much furthered in England and may yet more bee furthered to oppose themselueâ— to vs heerein Ibid. fol. 1085. Againe First I exhort that you withdraw not your selfe from your calling to the Bishopricke which is offered you in regard of the wonderfull penury of able Ministers Whence this mischieâ—e will come that if you that are the pillars of the Church pull backe and refuse to execute the Ecclesiasticall affaires both the Churches will bee distitute of faithfull Pastours and you shall giue toome to Wolues and Antichrists after Concerning the square Cappe and externall Apparrell of Bishops I suppose that it ought not much to bee disputed of seeing it is free from superstition and may haue a ciuill reason especially in this Kingdome of England Touching the holy Garments as they call them I wonder that they bee so strictly retained For I wish that all things in Gods worship may be perfourmed with greatest simplicitie Howbeit when I thinke with my selfe that if reconcilement in points of doctrine might be made betweene the Saxon Churches and ours there would be no separation for such garments as these For albeit wee like them not a whit yet wee would beare with their vse among them and gratulate our selues that wee haue abolishâ—d them Wherefore you may lawfully vse these garments either in preaching or in administring the Lords Supper yet so as you proceed to speake and teach against the inconuenience in the vse of them Idem ibid. fol. 1127. amico in Angliam Caluin of Bishop Hooper As I commend his constancy in refusing vnction and annealing so I had rather that hee had not so exceedingly contended de pileo veste linea about the square Cap and Surplesse Epist 120. fol. 217. Againe to Melancth To that you say the Magdeburg Ministers doe moue brawles about a linnen garment onely I see not whereto such brawles of theirs did appertaine or tend a little before It may be some will vrge some things as in contentions it came to passe will odiously ventilate some ceremonies wherein there is not so much euill as they pretend Epist. 17. fol. 213. Also although at first Caluin being demanded his iudgement de rebus adiaphoris of things indifferent in the Saxon Churches such as Surplesse c. did freely manifest his iudgement and admonish Melancthon whom some accused as to soft and too remisse for hee perswaded to conformitie rather then to suffer depriuation vt superius yet saith Beza they accused him immerito quidem very vndeseruedly as afterwards Caluin knew more thorowly For then it was not known with what intention that euill spirit and whole troope of Flaccians which perswaded rather to be depriued then conforme which after occasioned so many tumults and now saith Beza at this time doth hinder the worke of God against the Papists with that impudency and fury as if he had beene hired with large summes vnto it by the Pope of Rome Beza in vit Caluin anno 1540. Beza But if any man demand whether nothing at all of those things which are indifferent in themselues may bee retained at least for the sake of the weake and whether I thinke the ministry rather
be omitted contrary to a iust commandement if they bee commanded neither may they be done against a prohibition if they be forbidden as appeareth by the Law Ceremoniall Bez. Epist 24. fol. 143. Because there is some burthensome seruitude in euery Church in some more milde in others more hard and the sorrowes of such seruitude and burthens should be comforted by the Brethren and not increased by their condemnation so long as the foundation is retained Melancht consil part 2. fol. 92. Because concord and mutuall loue must by Brethren be defended lest inuocation in themselues or in the people be interrupted and lest lamentable and pernicious doubts be produced from questions not necessary as of old time it did about Easter they who haue their Christian libertie lesse restrained should giue God thankes and vse the same godly for the illustration of doctrine not for that cause to slacken the raines of discipline the more others in more burthen some seruitude should acknowledge themselues to be corrected of God and let them not suffer the true worship of God to be corrupted as it is written All this hath come vpon vs yet haue we not forgotten thee Melancht consil part 2. fol. 92. And so much of the reasons mouing these persons to this iudgement and practice of admitting rather inconuenient ceremonies then to suffer depriuation or the ouerthrow of the Church Fourthly and lastly wee will obserue such obiections as haue beene made against this doctrine and practice which haue by them the said excellent persons and pillars of Christ his Church beene answered and resolued Obiect Why haue yee not abolished these Ceremonies and corruptions out of your Churches all at once Answ 1 Melancht As it is with a Pilote of a ship which must take that way and runne such a course not which he knoweth to bee most right but which the windes doe permit vnto him so we when we could by no meanes hinder the greater it was sufficient to admit the lesser Consil part 1. fol. 76. 2 Zanchius I approue not their intemperancy which doe nothing vnlesse it bee tumultuously and which haue more minde to teare and rend through all things then discreetly and aduisedly to vnrippe them Compend loc 14. de Scandalo fol. 6. 15. taken out of Caluin Institut 3. 19. 13. 3 Illyricus That Medicall and politicall rule heere taketh very good place omnis mutatio periculosa That all kindes of alterations are not without some perill For alteration of Ceremonies cannot easily bee made without offence vnto the weake nor without an imputation or aspersion of leuity or of ambition with the more wise Clau. script part 1. fol. 33. verbo adiaph 4 Zepperus de Sacramentis cap. 13. fol. 324. 325. 326. 228. 1 The furious clamors and persecutions of the Papists did not permit this reformation of Ceremonies at the first which were so violent and bloody that it gaue small or no leisure to the teachers and lights of the Church neither was it safe for them to bend their care or cogitations this way 2 The people were so drowned in the deepe darkenesse and Idolatry of the Papacy that the amendment of Ceremonies and of externall worship could not in those beginnings be vndertaken It was necessary to vse doctrine and to instruct the people of sundry and horrible errors Idolatry Superstitions and abuses which the whole Papacie and Popish ceremonies haue in their departure that so all those ougly things might first bee remooued out of their mindes before they were remoued from their sight That which is not the work of one yere but a task of long season For as Ceremonies which are visible things and apprehended by the eyes doe more affect and mooue then the inuisible doctrine So the people did closely sticke to their accustomed Ceremonies and opposed themselues vehemently against the reformation of them Euen as wee see at this day to come to passe when as yet sound doctrine hath preuailed and flourished for aboue these 80. yeeres 3. The Church in Popery was nothing else but a sicke body In which from the sole of the foote to the crowne of the head there was nothing sound and intire Wherefore at the first beginning of reformation that whole chaos and abomination of error and of Popish Idolatry could not suddenly be perceiued but vse and experience did daily manifest and teach euery day more then at the first ‖ Obiect Bishop Hooper Your ceremonies are humane inuentions and mans Traditions about Gods worship and are spoken against Matt. 15. Col. 2. Answ P. Martyr 1 All humane inuentions about Gods seruice are not presently to bee condemned for it was an humane inuention that we should rather receiue the Lords Supper in the Morning then after dinner So it was an humane inuention that the price of the things sold in the Primitiue Church should be laid at the Apostles feete 2 I confesse with you that these ceremonies such as the Surplesse are humane inuentions and of themselues they doe not edifie Howbeit to some it may bee thought expedient that they be borne with for a season for it may bring this to passe that by these contentions there is great danger lest greater good fruit and more rich commoditie will be hindred and that the minds of men be suddenly turned from the Gospel the experience whereof we haue seen heretofore Loc. com inter Epistolas Hoopero fol. 1087. Bucer 1 Whatsoeuer Scripture you alleadge against humane Traditions that altogether you know to be vnderstood only of those things whereby men wil by these things offer worship vnto God and that also by letting passe the Commandements of God 2 To the place of Matt. 15. Euen you B b. Hooper had rather receiue your meate with your hands washed then with your hands vnwashed as the Pharises did To Col. 2. Whatsoeuer is spoken there of beggerly and weake elements appertaineth to superstition by which superstition these things were exacted as matters necessary or profitable to saluation euen after Christ was reuealed And whatsoeuer abuse there bee of these garments or the like Ceremonies that sticketh not on the garments but in impure mindes Obiect Wee must adde nothing to Gods word Deut. 12. Reue. 12. Pro. 30. Answ No parts of worship to the worship of God 1. Beza There is a twofold opinion concerning the reformation of Churches some hold that nothing at all should be added to Apostolicall simplicitie and by consequence are of minde that whatsoeuer the Apostles did they thinke they are to doe it but whatsoeuer the Church after the Apostles did adde to the first rites they thinke them fit euen all at once to be abolished There are others on the other side which hold that certaine ancient rites besides the Apostolicall ordinances are to bee retained partly as profitable and necessary partly also albeit not necessary yet to be tolerated for concord sakes For mine owne part I doubt not but the Apostolicall doctrine to bee most absolutely perfect
actions that chiefly seemeth to conduce which is written by the Apostle vnto Titus All things are cleane vnto the cleane And vnto Timothy Euery creature of God is good But it is not necessarily required that we haue an expresse mention of euery particular and singular thing which we vse to doe This is sufficient in generall to know by faith that indifferent things cannot defile those which vse them with a sincere minde and conscience Loc. com inter Epist. fol. 1088. Hooper Obiect Bb. Hooper These Ceremonies are Aaronicall and Iewish an imitation of the Aaronicall Priesthood and therefore ought to be eschewed of all that loue Christ Answ Bucer 1. Though I admit your antecedent yet your conclusion followeth not for to imitate Aarons Ceremonies is not of it selfe vicious but onely when men vse them as necessary to saluation or to signifie that Christ is yet for to come to take flesh vpon him Epist. ad Ioan. Alasco Nothing can truely be said to appertaine to the Priesthood of Aaron so farre forth as it is abolished but that which is vsed with such like superstition as if it were now after Christ reuealed needfull to saluation or profitable of it selfe or whereby some occasion is giuen to a man to assume or to retaine this superstition with himselfe or of troubling the peace and quiet of Brethren Idem Script Anglican fol. 707. Hoopero 2 For a Rite or Ceremony to be Aaronicall adheareth or sticketh not to any of the creatures of God in no garment in no figure in no colour in no worke of God But in the minde and profession of such as abuse the good creatures of God to impious signification idem ibid. 3 If by no meanes it be lawfull to vse those things which were of Aarons Priesthood or of the Gentiles Then it is not lawfull for vs to haue Churches nor holy-dayes For there is no expresse commaundement by word in the holy Scriptures of these things It is gathered notwithstanding from the example of the old people that they are profitable for vs to the increase of godlinesse which thing also experience proueth Idem ad Ioan. Alasco Petre Martyr In the Law or Priesthood of Aaron there were 1. Sacraments whereby it pleased God to confirme and seale the promises of Christ to come all which I know are abolished that we must beleeue that Christ is alreadie giuen not to be giuen And seeing other seales of Gods promises are vnder the Gospell giuen by our Lord himselfe namely Bread and Wine we ought not to recall the antiquated signes 2 Howbeit there were some actions in the Law of that nature that properly they may not be said to be Sacraments For they made to decency to order and some benefit which I doe iudge may be recalled and retained as agreeable to the light of nature and furthering some profit to our selues Who knoweth not that the Apostles for the peace and more comfortable conuersing of beleeuers did command the Gentiles that they should abstaine from bloud and strangled Those things were out of question Aaronicall if you will comprehend all things generally which were in the Law Further no man is ignorant that Tythes are inioyned in innumerable places for the maintenance of Ministers besides if I might more diligently search and consider as the time now will not permit me I could finde out not a few things which our Church hath borrowed out of the law of Moses that from the first beginning of the Church And that I may not omit this one thing wee haue the festiuall dayes in memoriall of our Lord Resurrection Natiuitie Pentecost and death of Christ shall all these things bee abolished because they bee shadowes of the olde Law By these things I suppose you see B b. Hooper that all things appertaining to the Aaronicall Priesthood are not so abolished as that nothing thereof either may be retained or vsed by vs. Martyr loc inter Epist Hoopero fol. 1087. Obiect B b. Hooper These Ceremonies were of Antichrists inuention Answ Bucer The vse of such garments as the Surplesse were vsed Godly by the holy Fathers before the Pope became to be the Romish Antichrist Script Anglic. fol. 682. Cranmero Martyr I cannot easily grant that the diuersity of garments had their originall from the Pope seeing we reade in the Ecclesiasticall History that Iohn the Euangelist ware Petalum seu Lamina Pontificalis a kinde of garment proper to a Minister or B b. and Pontius the Deacon witnesseth of Cyprian the Martyr that when as he was to be beheaded he gaue his garment named Birrus to the executioners His garment called Dalmatica hee gaue to the Deacons and stood in his linnen garments And Christians when they were conuerted vnto Christ did as the Fathers witnesse change their garment and for a gowne did put on a cloake For the which when they were mocked of the Heathen Tertullian wrote a most learned booke de Pallio of the cloake Besides Chrysostome maketh mention of the white garment of the Ministers of the Church Neither doe I thinke that you B b. Hooper are ignorant that there was giuen a Whitegarment vnto those that were admitted vnto the Church by Baptisme Wherefore it is cleere that there were some differences of vestures before the tyranny of the Pope was in force But admitte these things to The like answere and allegations doe Bullenger Gualt giue to the sam obiection Looke Whitgifts defence fol. 268. be the Popes inuentions I cannot perswade my selfe that the impiety of the Papacy is so great that whatsoeuer it toucheth it maketh so polluted and defiled as that the vse of such things may not be granted to good and Godly persons Martyr Hoopero fol. 1087. Looke more for answere hereto in the answere to the next obiection Obiect Bb. Hooper These things abused by Antichrist are so defiled that they may not be permitted to any Church howsoeuer knowing and worshipping Christ and acquainted with her liberty of all things Answ Bucer Surely I make great conscience to say thus much For 1. I see no Scripture whereby I may defend it 2. The Scripture doth euery where preach that euery creature of God is good vnto the good that is to such as doe truely beleeue in Christ and doe godly vse his creatures And that this creature of God is good not only in naturall effects as bread is good in the effects of feeding and strengthening our bodies and wine in the effects of drinking and heating vs but also it is good in diuers significations and admonitions For godly men doe stirre vp and nourish in themselues the remembrance and consideration of many of Gods benefits from euery thing which is a creature of God From hence are those things in the Psalmes and in the Songs of the Saints concerning the praise and celebration of Gods Name to the which all the works of God doe inuite them 3. What Scripture teacheth that there is such power giuen to the Deuill
In Ep. dedicat de Christo seruatore contra Socinum Nihil noui attuli sed antiquam receptam doctrinam quam hoc saeculo Martinus Chemnitius Iohannes Caluinus Petrus Martyr Zacharias Vrsinus multi alij Sancti Viri ex Dei verbo clarè solide docuerunt defendi tutatus sum Idem ibid. Subijcio hunc librum iudicio sanctae orthodoxae Ecclesiae quae Augustanam Helueticam Gallicam Brittanicam Belgicam confessiones sequitur Hanc enim esse veram Ecclesiam de his dogmatis quae in hoc libro tractantur rectè sentire credo cum hác me concordiam colere profiteor To these authorities there are some things excepted which heere I will setdowne And Obiect Frist that there is not that consent in these authorities no harmony nor agreement neither in iudgement nor in practise Not in iudgement for they disagree among themselues some commend the Ceremonies others discommend them esteeming them vnprofitable inexpedient hurtfull Not in practise for the first 200. yeeres their vniforme practise was answerable to the simplicity of the ordinance of Christ and his Apostles in the parts of Gods publike worships which will appeare if ye cite the vndoubted writings of the pure Fathers and not their Apocryphals or Bastard and supposed writings Answ 1 This obiection is quite besides the question and is nothing to the point in hand and therefore might haue well beene spared The question here is not whether the Churches and Writers agree or disagree in their iudgement practise of such Ceremonies as ours are but whether in a case of depriuation a man ought to conforme to Ceremonies as euill inconuenient as ours are pretended to be rather then suffer depriuation The answer by me is affirmatiue which conclusion all the forealleaged Authors as well one as other doe vniformely hold consent and agree vpon and of this there is an vndoubted harmony For their differences let them be vrged when question is concerning any point wherein they differ To giue instance hereof suppose a question betweene Timothy and Titus whether it were fit that the Apostles should visit the Church which they had by preaching conuerted to the faith and to finde out the truth heereof they will referre themselues to the iudgement of Paul and Barnabas who conuerted them vnto the truth Timothy saith that they should doe well to visit them and alleadgeth that Paul and Barnabas did consent in that iudgement and practise as appeareth Acts 15. 26. Titus denieth it and saith there was no consent nor agreement in their iudgement nor practise For Barnabas counselled to take Iohn called Marke with him but Paul thought it not meet Heere may Timothy reply that the question betweene vs is not about the taking a long of Marke wherein they disagreed but about the visiting of the Churches wherein they were both of one minde Touching their practise of 200. yeeres that it was answerable to the simplicity of the ordinance of Christ and his Apostles I grant that it was much more pure for that space then it was euer after for as the time ran on so purity vanished and superstition grew on as in a praecipitium and desperate downefall Howbeit the mystery of iniquity began to worke euen in the Apostles times The Diuell in those dayes began to sowe his tares as the watchmen began to sleepe both of false doctrine and corrupt Ceremonies the controuersie which troubled all the Christian world was within one hundred yeeres And Anacletus Euaristus Telesphorus Anicetus Victor as also Polycarp Irenaeus which note the controuersie about Easter and others were within the 200. yeeres So were the Hereticks Valentinus Montanus Chiliastae and others who brought innumerable ceremonies Clemens Alexandrinus and Tertullian within the 210. yeere did stirre in their writing Origen about the 216. yere Cyprian about the 240. yeere In whose vndoubted and not bastard writings may be seene and hath beene alleadged the diuersity and multitude of Ceremonies which were then in vse and much more might be said touching the confirmation of this point namely that such ceremonies as were then in vse as inconuenient in vse and nature as ours were practised by them and the doctrine of suffering Depriuation for refusing to conforme vnto such Ceremonies as ours was not by any of them taught but by all of them confuted partly by their doctrine and partly by their practise Obiect These Churches and writers were strangers to our cause nor so well acquainted with the state of our Church and therefore could not so well iudge of our case Answ The persons whose iudgements are alleadged were either strangers to our Church or acquainted with the state thereof The strangers thereto were the Fathers of the Primitiue Church and the Lutheran authors Both which because they were the practisers of more and worse Ceremonies then ours can bee imagined to bee it is nothing to the point whether they were ignorant of our Church or not For they that for the Churches peace did practise and perswade the practise of Ceremonies more in number and worse for quality would much more practise and perswade the lesser and the fewer in the same case as all men know For the rest which were acquainted with the state of our Church they were either forreiners or members of our Church The forreiners were some of them inform'd of our Churches estate by such as were not partiall in the relation thereof Such as Caluin who had our Leturgy translated and sent him to peruse Beza Bullinger Gualter Zanchius Vrsinus Polanus c. Others were such as dwelling in our Church were eye-witnesses themselues of the state thereof such as Bucer in Cambridge For whose censure the common praier Booke was translated into Latine P. Martyr in Oxon. The members of our Church were no lesse worthy then the Forreiners and could not be ignorant of the state of this Church such as the Martyrs Cranmer Ridley F. and Hooper who at last conformed Exiles as Foxe Iewell Nowell Parkhust Sanders Grindall Humphry c. And the latter teachers as Deering Fulke Perkins and especially Master Cartwright who with most exact diligence did sift euery thing to the vtmost of his power that might cary any shew of the warrant of an opposition Obiect These persons which had notice of our state considered not of our grounds of Scripture and of the arguments which we alleadge they professed that they saw but if they saw our reasons and so vrged as we vrge them they would doubtlesse haue bene of other iudgement Answ They considered of all the maine reasons which are now vrged as appeareth before in the Answeres of Master Bucer and P. Martyr to the seuerall obiections of B b. Hooper Besides the members of our Church were wel acquainted with the reasons vrged against them especially the later Obiect Some of the Authors which perswade to vse the Ceremonies doe giue such allegations as ouerthrow their owne grounds and thereby we are more confirmed