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A92172 A briefe narration of some church courses held in opinion and practise in the churches lately erected in New England. Collected out of sundry of their own printed papers and manuscripts with other good intelligences. Together with some short hints (given by the way) of their correspondence with the like tenents and practises of the separatists churches. And some short animadversions upon some principall passages for the benefit of the vulgar reader. Presented to publike view for the good of the church of God by W. R. Rathband, William, d. 1695. 1644 (1644) Wing R298; Thomason E36_11; ESTC R21802 84,830 61

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consideration_n for_o it_o will_v touch_v the_o freehold_n not_o only_o of_o our_o english_a church_n but_o also_o of_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o world_n if_o this_o be_v the_o rule_n to_o try_v all_o church_n by_o church-covenant_n whereby_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o society_n be_v unite_v to_o christ_n and_o one_o to_o another_o which_o therefore_o they_o count_v absolute_o necessary_a essential_a and_o constitutive_a to_o and_o of_o the_o true_a church_n discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 5-15_a ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 9_o 39_o apol._n p._n 6_o 9_o 17_o 19_o 20_o 21_o 24_o 25_o 38_o 39_o cott._n cat_n p._n 4._o without_o this_o no_o true_a church_n nor_o true_a church_n member_n but_o all_o be_v harlot_n and_o concubine_n apol._n p._n 20_o 24._o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 14_o 18_o 19_o 20_o 21_o 24._o without_o it_o all_o man_n be_v without_o the_o church_n for_o which_o they_o usual_o cite_v 1_o cor._n 5.12_o and_o uncapable_a of_o any_o church_n privilege_n apol._n p._n 6_o 11_o 13_o 19_o 20_o 24_o 25_o 27_o 38_o 39_o 42._o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 17_o 22_o 28._o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 11_o 21_o 24_o 38._o ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 69._o so_o the_o separatist_n rob._n justif_a p._n 75_o 79_o 56_o 81_o 82_o 85_o 86_o 110_o 210_o 207_o 231_o 257_o 351._o 2._o no_o other_o tie_n nor_o all_o other_o imaginable_a without_o this_o they_o conceive_v be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o knit_v man_n together_o into_o one_o church_n nor_o be_v there_o any_o other_o way_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n but_o by_o this_o not_o visible_a profession_n and_o practice_n of_o truth_n and_o holiness_n though_o never_o so_o complete_a and_o sincere_a therefore_o they_o say_v people_n say_v a_o strange_a yet_o bold_a assertion_n speak_v without_o proof_n of_o scripture_n consent_n of_o other_o author_n or_o good_a show_n of_o reason_n melchizedek_n be_v a_o priest_n and_o therefore_o pray_v preach_v and_o offer_v sacrifice_n but_o do_v he_o this_o by_o himself_o and_o for_o himself_o alone_o can_v there_o be_v a_o priest_n by_o office_n without_o a_o people_n job_n and_o melchisedek_n with_o other_o such_o eminent_o godly_a be_v yet_o no_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n because_o not_o within_o this_o church_n covenant_n ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 66._o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 14._o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 28_o 37._o nor_o age_n nor_o robin_n justif_n p._n 230_o say_v '_o it_o be_v a_o anabaptillicall_a error_n to_o hold_v that_o baptism_n constitute_v the_o visible_a church_n i_o suppose_v his_o sense_n be_v the_o same_o with_o they_o when_o they_o say_v that_o baptism_n admit_v not_o into_o the_o visible_a church_n the_o contrary_a whereunto_o i_o conceive_v be_v neither_o popish_a nor_o anabapt_v but_o may_v well_o pass_v for_o orthodox_n