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a_o common_a and_o general_a sense_n be_v give_v to_o any_o one_o that_o be_v send_v as_o a_o messenger_n and_o sometime_o more_o special_o ascribe_v to_o those_o that_o be_v employ_v as_o the_o apostle_n in_o a_o extraordinary_a and_o high_a embassage_n from_o christ._n here_o the_o refuter_fw-la while_o he_o go_v about_o to_o discover_v my_o ignorance_n as_o though_o i_o know_v not_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o well_o as_o he_o bewray_v his_o own_o for_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o in_o the_o scripture_n the_o word_n be_v use_v with_o reverence_n as_o well_o to_o the_o party_n to_o who_o as_o to_o the_o party_n from_o who_o the_o apostle_n be_v send_v thus_o paul_n call_v himself_o the_o apostle_n of_o the_o gentile_n 11.13_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o say_v that_o peter_n have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o apostleship_n of_o circumcision_n 2.7.8_o mean_v that_o he_o be_v the_o apostle_n of_o the_o jew_n because_o to_o 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life_n which_o need_v not_o see_v ordinary_a residence_n which_o be_v mean_v by_o that_o term_n &_o which_o be_v require_v in_o bb._n &_o ordinary_a pastor_n may_v be_v without_o such_o perpetual_a abide_n second_o except_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v understand_v also_o for_o the_o whole_a term_n of_o life_n but_o it_o suffice_v that_o it_o signify_v to_o continue_v in_o redress_v as_o the_o geneva_n translation_n also_o read_v for_o thereby_o be_v mean_v as_o i_o say_v that_o he_o be_v not_o leave_v there_o for_o a_o brunt_n but_o that_o he_o shall_v as_o thing_n be_v defective_a or_o want_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d continue_v to_o redress_v they_o and_o still_o keep_v that_o church_n in_o reparation_n 142._o for_o though_o the_o church_n be_v new_a as_o the_o refuter_fw-la object_v to_o signify_v that_o it_o shall_v not_o need_v any_o reparation_n yet_o be_v the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n subject_a to_o death_n and_o the_o place_n of_o they_o which_o die_v be_v to_o 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question_n whether_o the_o church_n be_v govern_v by_o bishop_n ibid._n or_o such_o presbytery_n it_o be_v grant_v on_o both_o side_n and_o agree_v upon_o betwixt_o we_o that_o it_o be_v govern_v either_o by_o the_o one_o or_o by_o the_o other_o and_o that_o one_o and_o but_o one_o of_o these_o assertion_n be_v true_a for_o if_o both_o part_n of_o the_o question_n or_o disjunction_n be_v true_a it_o be_v but_o a_o foolish_a question_n med_a as_o the_o philosopher_n say_v and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o question_n between_o we_o the_o refuter_fw-la have_v true_o witness_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o part_n of_o the_o disjunction_n though_o in_o the_o latter_a he_o falsify_v my_o assertion_n where_o he_o say_v the_o question_n between_o we_o be_v whether_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v govern_v by_o pastor_n and_o elder_n or_o by_o diocesan_n bishop_n the_o question_n indeed_o the_o facto_fw-la for_o the_o time_n past_a be_v whether_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v govern_v by_o diocesan_n 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