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first_o to_o entreat_v of_o that_o which_o be_v natura_fw-la posterius_fw-la and_o we_o see_v it_o common_o so_o use_v by_o logician_n who_o first_o treat_v of_o that_o part_n which_o be_v call_v judicium_fw-la then_o of_o the_o other_o which_o be_v call_v inuentio_fw-la notwithstanding_o inuentio_fw-la in_o nature_n be_v before_o judicium_fw-la but_o i_o will_v not_o spend_v ink_n and_o paper_n in_o answer_v so_o vain_a a_o cavillation_n the_o truth_n be_v that_o i_o in_o my_o answer_n follow_v the_o order_n of_o the_o admonition_n for_o i_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o office_n of_o those_o senior_n to_o govern_v the_o church_n etc._n etc._n because_o they_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o excommunication_n be_v the_o chief_a discipline_n in_o the_o church_n see_v the_o execution_n thereof_o be_v commit_v to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n only_o so_o that_o i_o first_o take_v away_o authority_n from_o their_o senior_n &_o then_o answer_v the_o place_n which_o they_o 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be_o myself_o also_o a_o elder_a &c_n &c_n feed_v the_o the_o flock_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o act._n s._n paul_n call_v the_o same_o man_n senior_n and_o bishop_n and_o by_o senior_n mean_v none_o other_o than_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n as_o it_o be_v evident_a in_o that_o place_n likewise_o ad_fw-la titum_fw-la 1._o he_o say_v that_o titus_n be_v leave_v at_o creta_n ut_fw-la constituat_fw-la opidatim_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la that_o he_o shall_v appoint_v elder_n in_o every_o city_n and_o declare_v what_o quality_n they_o ought_v to_o have_v he_o add_v oportet_fw-la episcopum_fw-la immunem_fw-la esse_fw-la à _fw-la crimine_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o bishop_n must_v be_v unreprovable_a etc._n etc._n whereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o he_o take_v they_o both_o for_o one_o the_o only_a place_n that_o have_v any_o show_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o your_o distinction_n be_v that_o 5._o two_o kind_n of_o presbyteri_fw-la 1._o tim._n 5._o 1._o tim._n 5._o presbyteri_fw-la
beyond_o all_o man_n in_o sauciness_n neither_o bring_v they_o any_o thing_n with_o they_o from_o home_n but_o a_o vain_a &_o intolerable_a contempt_n of_o all_o good_a man_n neither_o can_v they_o abide_v to_o be_v correct_v by_o any_o admonition_n of_o other_o m._n caluine_n speak_v of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n instit._n cap._n 8._o sect._n 120._o say_v thus_o scimus_fw-la politiam_fw-la pro_fw-la varietate_fw-la temporum_fw-la recipere_fw-la imo_fw-la exigere_fw-la varias_fw-la mutationes_fw-la we_o know_v that_o the_o policy_n of_o the_o church_n do_v receive_v nay_o rather_o do_v require_v diverse_a alteration_n beza_n caluine_n beza_n m._n beza_n likewise_o lib._n confess_v cap._n 5._o sect._n 17_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n touch_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v another_o cause_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n that_o they_o may_v ordain_v canon_n of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n and_o that_o i_o may_v comprehend_v many_o thing_n in_o few_o word_n that_o they_o may_v appoint_v ecclesiastical_a policy_n for_o the_o diverse_a circumstance_n of_o time_n place_n and_o person_n for_o it_o be_v necessary_a all_o thing_n shall_v be_v do_v orderly_o in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n of_o the_o which_o order_n there_o be_v one_o general_a reason_n to_o be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o not_o one_o and_o the_o same_o form_n agreeable_a to_o all_o circumstance_n and_o section_n 32._o speak_v of_o this_o signiory_n he_o show_v that_o it_o be_v necessary_a in_o the_o church_n while_o there_o be_v no_o christian_a magistrate_n for_o so_o he_o write_v but_o there_o idem_fw-la idem_fw-la be_v elder_n choose_v by_o suffrage_n or_o at_o least_o by_o the_o approbation_n of_o the_o whole_a company_n as_o it_o be_v very_o evident_a out_o of_o ambrose_n which_o complain_v that_o certain_a man_n have_v transfer_v this_o authority_n to_o themselves_o and_o ut_fw-la of_o cyprian_a likewise_o by_o who_o we_o may_v also_o understand_v that_o the_o bishop_n do_v rule_v over_o the_o college_n of_o elder_n not_o that_o he_o shall_v there_o reign_v but_o that_o by_o their_o consent_n he_o may_v rule_v the_o policy_n of_o the_o church_n especial_o for_o so_o much_o as_o at_o that_o time_n the_o church_n of_o africa_n be_v not_o help_v of_o the_o magistrate_n but_o be_v rather_o cruel_o vex_v of_o they_o and_o sect._n 35._o speak_v general_o of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n he_o say_v neither_o must_v we_o simple_o look_v what_o be_v do_v of_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o government_n idem_fw-la idem_fw-la of_o the_o church_n sing_v there_o be_v most_o diverse_a circumstance_n and_o therefore_o without_o preposterous_a zeal_n all_o thing_n can_v in_o all_o place_n and_o time_n be_v call_v to_o one_o and_o the_o same_o form_n but_o rather_o the_o end_n and_o invariable_a purpose_n of_o they_o must_v be_v look_v unto_o and_o that_o manner_n and_o form_n of_o do_v thing_n be_v to_o be_v choose_v which_o 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elder_n and_o deacon_n concern_v senior_n not_o only_o their_o office_n but_o their_o name_n also_o be_v out_o of_o this_o english_a church_n utter_o remove_v their_o office_n be_v to_o 28._o to_o act._n 14._o 4._o 1._o cor._n 1_o 28._o govern_v the_o church_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o minister_n to_o consult_v to_o admonish_v to_o correct_v and_o to_o order_v all_o thing_n appertain_a to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o congregation_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 112._o sect._n 3_o what_o scripture_n have_v you_o to_o prove_v that_o such_o senior_n as_o you_o mean_v &_o deacon_n have_v any_o thing_n to_o do_v in_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n i_o think_v the_o only_a discipline_n that_o we_o have_v in_o the_o whole_a new_a testament_n except_o you_o will_v make_v admonition_n &_o exhortation_n a_o part_n of_o it_o be_v excommunication_n and_o the_o execution_n of_o that_o be_v only_o commit_v to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n math._n 16._o john_n 20._o example_n hereof_o we_o have_v â–ª_o only_a 〈◊〉_d master_n may_v excommunicate_v â–ª_o 1._o cor._n 5._o 1._o tim._n 1._o &_o ad_fw-la titum_fw-la 3._o t._n c._n pag._n 146._o sect._n 2._o now_o i_o return_v back_o again_o to_o excommunication_n which_o m._n doctor_n think_v to_o be_v y_z e_z only_a discipline_n in_o the_o church_n but_o he_o shall_v understande_v that_o beside_o y_fw-fr â—_o part_n of_o private_a discipline_n which_o be_v ordinary_o &_o daily_o to_o be_v exercise_v by_o every_o one_o of_o y_z e_z pastor_n &_o elder_n as_o admonition_n &_o reprehension_n there_o be_v three_o principal_a part_n which_o be_v exercise_v of_o they_o joint_o &_o together_o whereof_o the_o first_o be_v the_o election_n or_o choice_n &_o the_o abdication_n or_o put_v out_o of_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n the_o second_o be_v in_o excommunication_n of_o the_o stubborn_a or_o absolution_n of_o the_o repentant_a the_o third_o be_v the_o decision_n of_o all_o such_o matter_n as_o do_v rise_v in_o the_o 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decjo_v y_z e_o cause_n wherefore_o i_o think_v you_o have_v forget_v yourself_o &_o in_o stead_n of_o y_fw-fr e_o part_n have_v divide_v y_o e_o whole_a that_o be_v you_o have_v make_v a_o division_n of_o government_n whereas_o you_o take_v upon_o you_o to_o divide_v discipline_n which_o be_v but_o a_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n or_o government_n read_v the_o general_a confession_n of_o y_fw-fr e_o christian_n church_n in_o helvetia_n &_o tell_v i_o what_o it_o differ_v from_o any_o thing_n y_fw-fr e_o i_o have_v say_v call_v to_o your_o remembrance_n that_o which_o yourself_o 9_o pag._n 1._o 4._o li_n 9_o have_v speak_v pag._n 14._o where_o you_o call_v other_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n but_o forerunner_n to_o excommunication_n but_o this_o be_v a_o contention_n only_o about_o word_n &_o therefore_o enough_o be_v say_v of_o it_o chap._n 1._o the._n 2._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 146._o sect._n 3_o as_o touch_v the_o
pag._n 152._o sect._n 2._o and_o whereas_o master_n doctor_n say_v that_o the_o office_n of_o the_o deacon_n be_v not_o only_o to_o provide_v for_o the_o poor_a but_o also_o to_o preach_v and_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n i_o have_v show_v before_o that_o it_o both_o not_o apperteync_n unto_o they_o to_o do_v either_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o for_o the_o proof_n whereof_o this_o place_n of_o the_o roman_n quote_v by_o the_o admonition_n be_v very_a fit_n and_o most_o proper_a for_o s._n paul_n speak_v there_o against_o those_o which_o not_o content_v themselves_o with_o their_o own_o vocation_n do_v break_v into_o that_o which_o apperteyn_v unto_o other_o as_o it_o the_o hand_n shall_v take_v upon_o it_o the_o office_n of_o the_o eye_n or_o of_o some_o other_o member_n of_o the_o body_n and_o therefore_o saint_n paul_n do_v as_o it_o be_v bind_v and_o point_n the_o lymitte_v of_o every_o office_n in_o the_o church_n and_o so_o place_v the_o deacon_n office_n only_o in_o the_o 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that_o m._n doctor_n shall_v upbrayde_v the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n with_o mutability_n and_o discord_n with_o themselves_o but_o that_o this_o office_n be_v durable_a &_o perpetual_a it_o may_v appear_v by_o that_o which_o i_o have_v allege_v before_o out_o of_o the_o fix_v of_o timothy_n for_o the_o necessity_n of_o elder_n for_o the_o argument_n serve_v to_o prove_v the_o necessity_n of_o those_o order_n which_o be_v there_o set_v forth_o whereof_o the_o deacon_n be_v one_o io._n whitgifte_n the_o only_a thing_n that_o be_v speak_v in_o that_o latin_a book_n touch_v the_o continuance_n of_o deacon_n in_o the_o church_n be_v this_o that_o they_o be_v not_o mention_v in_o the_o four_o to_o the_o ephesian_n and_o yet_o they_o may_v not_o be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o church_n in_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o admonition_n i_o say_v that_o this_o part_n of_o the_o office_n of_o a_o deacon_n which_o consist_v in_o provide_v for_o the_o poor_a be_v not_o so_o necessary_a now_o as_o 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in_o which_o only_o be_v contain_v 17._o contain_v 2._o ti._n 3._o 6._o 17._o all_o fullness_n and_o sufficiency_n to_o decide_v controversy_n etc._n 2._o pet._n 1._o 20_o rom._n 1._o 16._o 1._o cor._n 1._o 18_o etc._n etc._n must_v sound_v in_o his_o church_n for_o the_o very_a name_n apocrypha_fw-la testify_v that_o they_o ought_v rather_o to_o be_v keep_v close_o than_o to_o be_v utter_v answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 171._o sect._n 1._o 2._o your_o second_o reason_n in_o few_o word_n be_v this_o in_o the_o book_n of_o common_a homily_n homily_n prayer_n it_o be_v appoint_v that_o after_o the_o creed_n if_o there_o be_v no_o sermon_n a_o homily_n must_v follow_v either_o already_o set_v out_o or_o hereafter_o to_o be_v set_v out_o but_o you_o know_v not_o what_o will_v hereafter_o be_v set_v out_o therefore_o you_o will_v not_o subscribe_v you_o have_v no_o cause_n to_o suspect_v any_o thing_n touch_v religion_n set_v out_o by_o public_a authority_n for_o so_o be_v the_o 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substance_n or_o be_v of_o baptism_n whether_o 1_o pa._n 114._o sect._n 1_o he_o be_v minister_v or_o no_o that_o minister_v that_o sacrament_n pag._n 114._o and_o this_o be_v that_o mystery_n which_o you_o and_o your_o fellow_n will_v not_o as_o yet_o open_o utter_v but_o crafty_o dissemble_v until_o you_o see_v better_a opportunity_n the_o truth_n be_v your_o intent_n be_v rebaptisation_n and_o flat_a anabaytisme_n but_o i_o have_v declare_v sufficient_o the_o vanity_n of_o your_o collection_n in_o this_o place_n and_o the_o weakness_n of_o your_o reason_n touch_v this_o matter_n where_o you_o have_v give_v i_o more_o especial_a occasion_n to_o speak_v of_o it_o tract_n 9_o chap._n 7._o the._n 7._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 42._o sect._n 2._o 3._o see_v then_o that_o the_o scripture_n do_v teach_v this_o order_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o minister_n thrust_v upon_o the_o church_n but_o by_o the_o consent_n thereof_o and_o reason_n persuade_v that_o way_n and_o the_o use_n 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may_v easy_o perceive_v how_o you_o have_v daly_v about_o this_o place_n of_o cyprian_a and_o that_o this_o interpretation_n be_v not_o i_o alone_o chap._n 3._o the._n 16._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 70._o sect._n 1._o 2._o 3._o &_o pag._n 71._o sect._n 1_o and_o therefore_o hierome_n write_v upon_o the_o first_o to_o titus_n say_v that_o hierome_n hierome_n in_o the_o begin_n a_o bishop_n and_o a_o priest_n be_v all_o one_o but_o after_o that_o there_o begin_v to_o rise_v faction_n in_o religion_n and_o some_o say_v they_o hold_v of_o apollo_n some_o of_o paul_n some_o of_o cephas_n and_o some_o of_o christ_n it_o be_v decree_v that_o one_o shall_v be_v choose_v to_o bear_v rule_n over_o the_o rest_n to_o who_o the_o chief_a care_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v apperteine_v and_o by_o who_o sect_n and_o schism_n shall_v be_v cut_v of_o here_o a_o man_n may_v reason_v thus_o the_o distinction_n of_o degree_n begin_v in_o the_o church_n when_o man_n begin_v to_o 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time_n wherein_o they_o live_v &_o the_o stream_n of_o the_o corruption_n thereof_o be_v so_o vehement_a &_o forcible_a do_v not_o only_o drive_v before_o it_o light_a thing_n but_o it_o eat_v also_o &_o wear_v y_o e_o very_a hard_a &_o stony_a rock_n &_o therefore_o there_o be_v not_o to_o be_v look_v for_o author_n for_o this_o be_v your_o usual_a practice_n when_o you_o can_v answer_v to_o cavil_n at_o the_o credit_n of_o the_o author_n such_o sincerity_n at_o hieromes_n hand_n which_o we_o find_v in_o s._n cyprian_n consider_v y_o it_o he_o live_v some_o age_n after_o cyprian_a what_o time_n satan_n have_v a_o great_a deal_n more_o darken_v y_fw-mi e_fw-it clear_a light_n of_o the_o sun_n of_o the_o gospel_n than_o it_o be_v in_o s._n cyprian_n time_n for_o as_o those_o y_o it_o come_v near_a unto_o the_o apostle_n time_n because_o they_o be_v near_a the_o light_n do_v sce_v best_o so_o those_o that_o be_v further_o of_o from_o these_o light_n have_v until_o you_o e_o time_n of_o the_o manifestation_n of_o the_o son_n of_o perdition_n their_o heaven_n more_o dark_a &_o cloudy_a &_o consequent_o do_v see_v more_o divie_o which_o be_v diligent_o be_v observe_v of_o y_fw-fr e_o reader_n both_o the_o better_a to_o understand_v y_z e_o state_n of_o this_o question_n and_o all_o other_o controversy_n which_o lie_v between_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n and_o although_o hierome_n beside_o his_o other_o fault_n may_v have_v also_o in_o this_o matter_n speak_v more_o sound_o yet_o we_o shall_v easy_o perceive_v y_o it_o he_o be_v a_o great_a deal_n further_o from_o either_o the_o title_n or_o office_n of_o a_o archbishop_n or_o else_o from_o y_z e_z authority_n that_o a_o bishop_n have_v with_o we_o than_o he_o be_v from_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o ministerio_fw-la which_o ought_v to_o be_v and_o be_v commend_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n io._n whitgifte_n this_o be_v but_o a_o poor_a refuge_n when_o you_o can_v answer_v to_o discredit_v the_o author_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o hierome_n say_v nothing_o touch_v this_o matter_n but_o that_o which_o be_v both_o consonant_n to_o the_o scripture_n &_o confirm_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n long_o before_o his_o time_n as_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v before_o and_o i_o pray_v you_o what_o difference_n be_v there_o betwixt_o that_o which_o hierome_n speak_v in_o this_o place_n and_o that_o which_o cyprian_n have_v his_o id_fw-la before_o for_o cyp_n jan_n say_v that_o heresy_n &_o schism_n have_v spring_v &_o do_v spring_n of_o this_o because_o the_o priest_n of_o god_n be_v not_o obey_v etc._n etc._n and_o because_o the_o bishop_n which_o be_v one_o &_o be_v set_v o_o oer_o the_o church_n be_v through_o the_o proud_a presumption_n of_o some_o contemn_v etc._n etc._n
and_o hierome_n say_v that_o y_fw-es e_fw-es cause_v why_o among_o y_z e_z bishops_z one_z be_v choose_v to_o govern_v y_z e_o rest_n be_v to_o remedy_v schism_n do_v you_o not_o perceive_v how_o these_o two_o father_n join_v in_o one_o truth_n &_o direct_o affirm_v y_z e_o self_n same_o matter_n it_o be_v true_a y_fw-mi t_o time_n corrupt_v &_o therefore_o much_o more_o occasion_n be_v offer_v to_o appoint_v government_n according_a to_o y_z e_z time_n lest_o the_o corruption_n prevail_v &_o get_v the_o upper_a hand_n &_o for_o this_o cause_n hierome_n say_v that_o upon_o these_o corruption_n of_o time_n the_o church_n be_v constrain_v to_o appoint_v this_o order_n chap._n 3._o the._n 17._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 79._o sect._n 3_o and_o here_o i_o must_v put_v m._n doctor_n in_o remembrance_n how_o unfit_o he_o have_v dedicate_v his_o book_n unto_o y_z e_o church_n which_o have_v so_o patch_v it_o &_o peece_v it_o of_o a_o number_n of_o shredde_n of_o the_o doctor_n y_fw-fr t_o a_o sentence_n of_o matter_n a_o frivolous_a di_fw-mi from_o the_o matter_n the_o scripture_n either_o true_o or_o fall_v lie_v allege_v be_v as_o it_o be_v a_o phoenix_n in_o this_o book_n if_o he_o will_v have_v have_v y_o e_o church_n believe_v he_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v settle_v their_o judgement_n &_o ground_v their_o faith_n upon_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v y_z e_z only_a foundation_n whereupon_o y_a e_o church_n may_v build_v now_o he_o do_v not_o only_o not_o give_v they_o ground_n to_o stand_v of_o but_o he_o lead_v they_o into_o way_n which_o they_o can_v follow_v nor_o come_v after_o he_o for_o except_v it_o be_v those_o which_o be_v learn_v &_o beside_o have_v the_o mean_n &_o ability_n to_o have_v the_o book_n which_o be_v here_o cite_v which_o be_v y_z e_z least_z &_o small_a portion_n of_o the_o church_n how_o can_v they_o know_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v true_a which_o be_v allege_v &_o as_o i_o have_v say_v if_o they_o can_v know_v yet_o have_v they_o 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that_o be_v borrow_v the_o say_n of_o the_o doctor_n out_o of_o other_o man_n collection_n &_o not_o read_v y_z e_o author_n then selue_o a_o few_o book_n will_v serve_v &_o with_o very_o small_a charge_n they_o mightbe_n provide_v the_o patch_n piece_n &_o shred_n of_o doctor_n that_o be_v in_o my_o book_n be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o doctor_n themselves_o &_o they_o be_v whole_a sentence_n faithful_o allege_v but_o the_o shred_n of_o doctor_n that_o your_o book_n be_v stuff_v with_o you_o have_v borrow_v of_o other_o you_o have_v falsify_v they_o &_o cut_v they_o off_o by_o the_o half_a you_o have_v father_v upon_o they_o that_o which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o they_o and_o the_o word_n of_o late_a writer_n you_o have_v set_v down_o under_o the_o name_n of_o ancient_a father_n and_o the_o scripture_n you_o have_v false_o allege_v and_o untrue_o translate_v i_o will_v not_o glad_o have_v burst_v out_o into_o this_o accusation_n at_o this_o time_n be_v from_o the_o matter_n but_o that_o you_o have_v urge_v i_o thereunto_o chap._n 3._o the._n 18._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 79._o sect._n 4._o 5._o 6._o hierome_n say_v y_z e_z at_o the_o first_o a_o bishop_n &_o a_o elder_n which_o you_o call_v a_o priest_n be_v all_o one_o but_o afterward_o through_o faction_n &_o schism_n it_o be_v decree_v y_o t_o one_o shall_v rule_v over_o y_o e_o rest_n now_o i_o say_v against_o this_o order_n that_z y_z e_z bishop_n shall_v bear_v rule_n over_o all_o y_z e_z which_z our_o saviour_n christ_n say_v unto_o y_z e_o phariseis_n from_o y_z e_z beginning_z it_o be_v not_o so_o &_o therefore_o i_o require_v that_o y_z e_z first_o order_n may_v stand_v which_o be_v prax._n contr_n prax._n that_o a_o bishop_n &_o elder_n be_v all_o one_o and_o if_o you_o place_v so_o great_a authority_n against_o the_o institution_n of_o god_n in_o a_o mortal_a man_n hear_v what_o tertullian_n say_v unto_o you_o that_o be_v true_a whatsoever_o be_v first_o and_o that_o be_v false_a whatsoever_o be_v latter_a hierome_n &_o you_o confess_v y_z t_o this_o be_v first_o that_z y_z e_z bishop_z be_v all_o one_o with_o y_z e_z elder_n &_o first_o also_o by_o y_z e_z falsify_v tertullians_n meaning_n falsify_v word_n of_o god_n they_o i_o conclude_v y_fw-fr t_z that_o be_v true_a you_o both_o do_v likewise_o confess_v y_z t_z it_o come_v after_o that_o one_o bare_a rule_n over_o the_o rest_n than_o i_o conclude_v y_z e_z that_o be_v false_a for_o all_o that_o be_v false_a that_o be_v latter_a furthermore_o hierome_n in_o the_o same_o place_n of_o titus_n say_v after_o this_o sort_n as_z y_z e_z elder_n know_v themselves_o to_o be_v subject_a by_o a_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n unto_o he_o that_o be_v set_v over_o they_o so_o the_o bishop_n must_v know_v that_o they_o be_v great_a than_o the_o elder_n rather_o by_o custom_n than_o by_o any_o truth_n of_o the_o instatution_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o so_o they_o ought_v to_o govern_v the_o church_n in_o common_a io._n whitgifte_n it_o follow_v after_o in_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o admonition_n that_o there_o be_v superiority_n among_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n e_o en_fw-fr in_o the_o apostle_n time_n which_o i_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o ripture_n &_o other_o testimony_n it_o be_v also_o 〈◊〉_d that_o great_a faction_n &_o schi_n mes_fw-fr do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n even_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o therefore_o most_o like_a these_o that_o icrome_n sp_z k_v of_o to_o have_v be_v they_o determine_v the_o which_o to_o be_v true_a his_o word_n ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d touch_v y_z e_o church_n of_o alexandria_n do_v evident_o declare_v for_o he_o say_v you_o to_o this_o order_n be_v keep_v 〈◊〉_d from_o s._n mark_n but_o admit_v these_o be_v not_o true_a which_o you_o will_v never_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v yet_o your_o argument_n be_v of_o no_o force_n &_o the_o place_n of_o tertullian_n be_v not_o understand_v for_o tertullian_n in_o that_o book_n after_o he_o have_v repeat_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v to_o believe_v in_o ▪_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ▪_o one_o god_n and_o in_o his_o son_n jesus_n ch_n ist_fw-mi etc._n etc._n he_o say_v that_o this_o rule_n have_v come_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o gospel_n even_o before_o all_o former_a heretic_n much_o more_o before_o 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v but_o yesterdaye_n as_o well_o the_o posterity_n of_o all_o heretic_n as_o the_o very_a novelty_n of_o 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v of_o late_o will_v prove_v whereby_o judgement_n may_v hereof_o be_v indifferent_o give_v against_o all_o heresy_n that_o that_o be_v true_a whatsoever_o be_v first_o &_o that_o count_n rfeit_v whatsoever_o be_v last_o whereby_o it_o be_v e_o ident_a that_o tertullians_n rule_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v in_o matter_n of_o salvation_n veland_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d s_o ode_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gin_n veland_n &_o of_o faith_n &_o not_o in_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n &_o kind_n of_o government_n which_o thing_n he_o himself_o in_o plain_a word_n declare_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr virginibus_fw-la velandis_fw-la where_o in_o like_a manner_n after_o he_o have_v recite_v this_o rule_n of_o faith_n he_o add_v this_o law_n of_o aith_v remain_v other_o thing_n of_o discipline_n &_o conversation_n admit_v newness_n of_o correction_n the_o grace_n of_o god_n work_v and_o go_v forward_o even_o to_o the_o end_n so_o that_o tertullian_n think_v that_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n and_o discipline_n may_v be_v alter_v y_o e_fw-la rule_n of_o faith_n remain_v 〈◊〉_d notwithstanding_o his_o former_a rule_n if_o you_o will_v not_o have_v this_o to_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o tertullian_n then_o will_v i_o reason_v thus_o 〈◊〉_d the_o reason_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d
rest_n to_o supply_v that_o place_n and_o office_n which_o now_o the_o archbishop_n have_v chap._n 3._o the._n 23._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 80._o sect._n 2._o and_o if_o any_o can_v show_v i_o one_o man_n in_o these_o time_n of_o who_o we_o may_v be_v assure_v that_o he_o will_v pronounce_v gentleness_n the_o archbishop_n have_v 〈◊〉_d to_o thank_v you_o for_o your_o gentleness_n the_o truth_n of_o every_o question_n which_o shall_v arise_v he_o shall_v make_v i_o somewhat_o more_o favourable_a to_o the_o archbishop_n than_o present_o i_o be_o for_o although_o there_o be_v find_v one_o such_o as_o can_v not_o err_v yet_o i_o can_v not_o consent_v that_o the_o matter_n shall_v lie_v only_o upon_o his_o hand_n see_v that_o the_o apostle_n which_o can_v not_o err_v in_o these_o matter_n will_v not_o take_v that_o upon_o they_o &_o see_v that_o by_o that_o mean_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v contemn_v and_o further_o for_o that_o the_o judgement_n of_o one_o man_n in_o a_o controversy_n be_v not_o so_o strong_a to_o pull_v up_o error_n that_o be_v root_v in_o man_n mind_n as_o the_o judgement_n and_o consent_n of_o many_o for_o that_o the_o judgement_n of_o many_o be_v very_o apt_a either_o to_o confirm_v a_o truth_n or_o to_o confute_v falsehood_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o s._n paul_n do_v hold_v forth_o as_o it_o be_v a_o buckler_n against_o the_o frowardness_n of_o certain_a the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n io._n whitgifte_n you_o take_v great_a pain_n in_o fight_v without_o a_o adversary_n and_o because_o otherwise_o as_o it_o shall_v seem_v you_o lack_v matter_n to_o lengthen_v your_o book_n therefore_o you_o devise_v matter_n of_o your_o own_o to_o strive_v against_o for_o who_o have_v affirm_v that_o which_o you_o so_o earnest_o seek_v in_o this_o place_n to_o overthrow_v it_o have_v be_v tell_v twice_o already_o that_o neither_o of_o our_o archbishop_n take_v upon_o he_o to_o compound_v controversy_n in_o doctrine_n by_o himself_o 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that_o it_o be_v quote_v only_o for_o the_o phrase_n and_o manner_n of_o speak_v it_o be_v true_a that_o god_n be_v not_o mock_v but_o this_o prove_v not_o that_o question_n in_o baptism_n be_v to_o mock_v god_n and_o therefore_o vain_o it_o be_v apply_v those_o which_o sever_v the_o cup_n from_o the_o bread_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n do_v separate_v that_o which_o god_n have_v couple_v and_o therefore_o that_o text_n may_v well_o be_v allege_v against_o they_o but_o such_o as_o question_v in_o baptism_n in_o the_o name_n of_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v do_v not_o mock_v god_n and_o therefore_o that_o text_n be_v in_o the_o admonition_n altogether_o abuse_v chap._n 1._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 134._o sect._n ult._n and_o as_o for_o this_o
of_o your_o profession_n shall_v be_v ignorant_a in_o the_o nature_n and_o definition_n of_o a_o sacrament_n a_o sacrament_n i_o mean_v not_o in_o the_o large_a signification_n but_o as_o it_o be_v proper_o use_v and_o as_o we_o call_v the_o lord_n supper_n and_o baptism_n sacrament_n for_o sacrament_n in_o the_o proper_a signification_n be_v mystical_a sign_n ordain_v by_o god_n himself_o consist_v in_o the_o word_n of_o sacrament_n the_o proper_a signification_n of_o sacrament_n god_n in_o figure_n and_o in_o thing_n signify_v whereby_o he_o keep_v in_o man_n memory_n and_o sometime_o renu_v his_o large_a benefit_n bestow_v upon_o his_o church_n whereby_o also_o he_o seal_v or_o assure_v his_o promise_n and_o show_v outward_o and_o as_o it_o be_v lay_v before_o our_o eye_n those_o thing_n to_o behold_v which_o inward_o he_o work_v in_o we_o yea_o by_o they_o he_o strengthen_v and_o increase_v our_o faith_n by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n work_v in_o our_o heart_n and_o to_o be_v short_a by_o his_o sacrament_n he_o separate_v we_o from_o all_o other_o people_n from_o all_o other_o religion_n consecrate_v we_o and_o bind_v we_o to_o he_o only_o and_o signifi_v what_o he_o require_v of_o we_o to_o be_v do_v now_o every_o ceremony_n signify_v any_o thing_n have_v not_o these_o condition_n and_o propertye_n acrament_n every_o signify_v ceremony_n be_v not_o a_o acrament_n wherefore_o every_o ceremony_n signify_v any_o thing_n be_v not_o a_o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o cross_v in_o baptism_n though_o it_o signifi_v some_o thing_n yet_o it_o be_v no_o sacrament_n the_o allegory_n of_o sit_v be_v dumb_a and_o speak_v nothing_o but_o to_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v add_v the_o signification_n in_o express_a word_n as_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v wherefore_o there_o be_v more_o cause_n to_o condemn_v the_o one_o than_o there_o be_v to_o condemn_v the_o other_o more_o for_o sit_v at_o the_o lord_n supper_n have_v not_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n that_o i_o can_v read_v of_o but_o cross_v in_o baptise_v have_v wherefore_o that_o be_v to_o invent_v a_o new_a ceremony_n and_o this_o be_v to_o retain_v the_o old_a so_o that_o the_o reason_n of_o their_o allegory_n and_o of_o this_o ceremony_n be_v not_o like_a of_o refuse_v isle_n in_o baptism_n the_o church_n have_v just_a cause_n and_o it_o use_v her_o liberty_n in_o retain_v cross_v neither_o will_v it_o burden_v the_o sacrament_n with_o a_o multitude_n of_o unnecessary_a and_o unprofitable_a ceremony_n and_o yet_o retain_v such_o as_o shall_v be_v think_v most_o convenient_a chap._n 3._o the._n 7._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 137._o lin._n 3._o and_o to_o conclude_v i_o see_v no_o cause_n why_o some_o cross_n shall_v be_v unlawefull_a and_o other_o some_o commendable_a and_o why_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o monument_n of_o popery_n in_o wood_n and_o metal_n and_o yet_o a_o christian_a badge_n in_o the_o forehead_n of_o a_o man_n why_o we_o shall_v not_o like_o of_o it_o in_o street_n and_o hyghewaye_n and_o yet_o allow_v of_o it_o in_o the_o church_n io._n whitgifte_n as_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o paint_n of_o a_o image_n to_o set_v forth_o a_o history_n and_o place_v of_o it_o in_o the_o church_n to_o be_v worship_v so_o be_v there_o also_o as_o great_a difference_n or_o more_o betwixt_o cross_v a_o child_n in_o the_o forehead_n at_o the_o time_n of_o baptism_n with_o express_v the_o cause_n and_o use_v of_o it_o and_o the_o place_n of_o cross_n in_o church_n or_o highway_n and_o street_n the_o cross_v of_o the_o child_n forehead_n be_v but_o for_o a_o moment_n the_o cross_n of_o wood_n and_o stone_n remain_v and_o continue_v the_o cross_n in_o the_o child_n forehead_n be_v not_o make_v to_o be_v adore_v and_o worship_v neither_o be_v ever_o any_o man_n so_o mad_a as_o to_o imagine_v any_o such_o thing_n of_o it_o but_o the_o cross_n in_o church_n street_n and_o highway_n of_o mettle_n and_o wood_n be_v erect_v to_o be_v worship_v and_o be_v so_o according_o and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o like_a peril_n in_o the_o one_o as_o there_o be_v in_o the_o other_o ¶_o of_o the_o party_n that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v chap._n 4._o the_o first_o division_n admonition_n ▪_o that_o the_o party_n to_o be_v baptize_v if_o they_o be_v of_o the_o year_n of_o 6._o of_o math._n 6._o discretion_n by_o themselves_o and_o in_o their_o own_o person_n or_o if_o they_o be_v infant_n by_o their_o parent_n in_o who_o rooine_n if_o upon_o necessary_a occasion_n they_o be_v absent_a some_o one_o of_o the_o congregation_n know_v the_o good_a behaviour_n and_o sound_n faith_n of_o the_o par_fw-fr tes_z may_z both_o make_v rehearsal_n if_o their_o faith_n and_o also_o if_o their_o faith_n be_v sound_o &_o agreeable_a to_o holy_a scripture_n desire_v to_o be_v in_o the_o same_o baptise_a and_o final_o that_o nothing_o be_v do_v in_o this_o or_o any_o other_o thing_n but_o that_o which_o you_o have_v the_o express_a warrant_n of_o god_n word_n for_o answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 111._o sect._n 1._o 2._o i_o muse_v what_o you_o mean_v to_o say_v on_o this_o sort_n the_o party_n to_o be_v baptize_v baptize_v of_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v if_o they_o be_v of_o the_o year_n of_o discretion_n etc._n etc._n you_o know_v that_o in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n none_o tarry_v for_o baptism_n so_o long_o except_o it_o be_v in_o some_o secret_a congregation_n of_o anabaptiste_n the_o place_n allege_v out_o of_o the_o three_o of_o matthew_n tell_v how_o they_o that_o be_v baptize_v confess_v their_o sin_n it_o speak_v nothing_o of_o any_o confession_n of_o faith_n it_o be_v well_o that_o you_o admit_v some_o to_o answer_v for_o the_o infant_n in_o the_o child_n of_o the_o parent_n answer_v or_o their_o child_n absence_n of_o the_o parent_n and_o why_o not_o in_o his_o presence_n to_o what_o scripture_n have_v you_o that_o the_o parent_n at_o the_o baptise_v of_o his_o child_n shall_v make_v a_o rehearsal_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o desire_v that_o his_o child_n shall_v be_v therein_o baptize_v this_o i_o desire_v to_o know_v for_o my_o own_o learning_n for_o i_o neither_o remember_v any_o such_o thing_n in_o scripture_n neither_o yet_o in_o any_o ancient_a writer_n i_o do_v herein_o but_o desire_n to_o be_v instruct_v t._n c._n pag._n 139._o lin._n 6._o and_o because_o i_o will_v have_v all_o those_o thing_n together_o that_o touch_v this_o matter_n of_o baptisine_n i_o come_v to_o that_o which_o he_o have_v in_o the_o next_o section_n and_o in_o iii_o page_n where_o after_o his_o old_a manner_n he_o wrangle_v and_o quarrel_v for_o although_o the_o admonition_n speak_v so_o plain_o and_o so_o clear_o that_o as_o hesiod_n say_v it_o may_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d satisfy_v momus_n yet_o m._n doctor_n go_v about_o there_o to_o bring_v it_o in_o suspicion_n of_o anabaptisme_n because_o allow_v in_o plain_a word_n the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n they_o add_v that_o if_o the_o party_n be_v of_o 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