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A80608 The bloudy tenent, washed, and made white in the bloud of the Lambe: being discussed and discharged of bloud-guiltinesse by just defence. Wherein the great questions of this present time are handled, viz. how farre liberty of conscience ought to be given to those that truly feare God? And how farre restrained to turbulent and pestilent persons, that not onely raze the foundation of godlinesse, but disturb the civill peace where they live? Also how farre the magistrate may proceed in the duties of the first table? And that all magistrates ought to study the word and will of God, that they may frame their government according to it. Discussed. As they are alledged from divers Scriptures, out of the Old and New Testament. Wherein also the practise of princes is debated, together with the judgement of ancient and late writers of most precious esteeme. Whereunto is added a reply to Mr. Williams answer, to Mr. Cottons letter. / By John Cotton Batchelor in Divinity, and teacher of the church of Christ at Boston in New England. Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1647 (1647) Wing C6409; Thomason E387_7; ESTC R836 257,083 342

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the_o death_n in_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o have_v not_o be_v carry_v away_o either_o with_o the_o fear_n of_o civil_a sword_n or_o with_o the_o deceitful_a insinuation_n of_o unstable_a but_o seduce_a teacher_n to_o depart_v from_o the_o simplicity_n and_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o howsoever_o woeful_a and_o wonderful_a change_n have_v be_v make_v of_o religion_n in_o england_n in_o the_o reign_n of_o four_o or_o five_o prince_n yet_o it_o be_v no_o more_o than_o befall_v the_o church_n of_o judah_n in_o the_o day_n of_o ahaz_n and_o hezekiah_n manasseh_n and_o josiah_n yet_o the_o prophet_n never_o upbraid_v they_o with_o the_o civil_a magistrater_n power_n in_o cause_n of_o religion_n as_o the_o cause_n of_o it_o better_o some_o vicissitude_n in_o religion_n than_o a_o constant_a continuance_n in_o idolatry_n and_o popery_n by_o prince_n refer_v all_o cause_n of_o religion_n to_o churchman_n the_o prophecy_n of_o england_n revolt_n again_o to_o popery_n 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affair_n thereof_o ephes_n 4._o 1_o cor._n 12._o the_o other_o a_o civil_a ministry_n or_o office_n mere_o humane_a and_o civil_a which_o man_n agree_v to_o constitute_v therefore_o call_v a_o humane_a creation_n 1_o pet._n and_o be_v as_o true_a and_o lawful_a in_o those_o country_n that_o never_o hear_v of_o the_o true_a god_n and_o his_o holy_a son_n jesus_n as_o in_o any_o part_n of_o the_o world_n where_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o take_v up_o defender_n if_o magistrate_n be_v the_o minister_n of_o god_n as_o paul_n call_v they_o than_o their_o ministry_n or_o office_n be_v not_o mere_o humane_a but_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v it_o be_v of_o god_n and_o ordain_v of_o god_n rom._n 13.1_o and_o if_o it_o be_v of_o god_n it_o must_v also_o be_v for_o god_n or_o else_o he_o be_v a_o minister_n and_o servant_n not_o of_o god_n but_o of_o the_o world_n it_o be_v true_a man_n agree_v to_o constitute_v it_o to_o wit_n this_o or_o that_o form_n of_o it_o in_o respect_n of_o which_o influence_n of_o man_n it_o be_v call_v a_o humane_a creation_n but_o the_o truth_n be_v government_n itself_o be_v of_o god_n and_o ordain_v by_o god_n and_o every_o lawful_a form_n of_o government_n whether_o monarchy_n aristarchy_n or_o democracy_n or_o some_o mix_v of_o these_o according_a to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o people_n they_o be_v all_o of_o god_n and_o so_o acknowledge_v and_o authorize_v by_o god_n in_o his_o word_n and_o though_o they_o be_v as_o true_a and_o lawful_a in_o those_o nation_n that_o never_o hear_v of_o the_o true_a god_n or_o of_o his_o holy_a son_n jesus_n yet_o it_o be_v from_o the_o guidance_n and_o appointment_n of_o god_n in_o the_o very_a light_n of_o nature_n that_o such_o nation_n do_v erect_v such_o and_o such_o government_n and_o government_n for_o the_o good_a of_o humane_a society_n and_o that_o not_o only_o in_o worldly_a matter_n but_o in_o matter_n also_o of_o religion_n whence_o it_o be_v that_o in_o all_o civil_a nation_n who_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d evil_a no_o man_n that_o i_o meet_v with_o interprete_v more_o full_o than_o pareus_n there_o be_v say_v he_o a_o fourfold_a evil_n of_o which_o the_o magistrate_n be_v the_o avenger_n contrary_a to_o the_o fourfold_a good_a whereof_o the_o magistrate_n be_v the_o preserver_n a_o natural_a good_a a_o moral_a good_a a_o civil_a good_a a_o spiritual_a good_a a_o natural_a good_a as_o life_n and_o safety_n of_o our_o body_n a_o moral_a good_a as_o temperance_n chastity_n a_o civil_a good_a as_o our_o good_n and_o land_n and_o civil_a liberty_n a_o spiritual_a good_a as_o the_o free_a passage_n of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o pure_a religion_n in_o opposition_n to_o these_o there_o be_v a_o fourfold_a evil_n natural_a as_o the_o kill_n and_o wound_v and_o beat_v of_o our_o body_n moral_a as_o drunkenness_n and_o whoredom_n civil_a as_o stealth_n and_o robbery_n and_o oppression_n spiritual_a as_o heresy_n idolatry_n and_o disturbance_n of_o the_o 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be_v it_o possible_a that_o ever_o antichrist_n shall_v have_v be_v hatch_v up_o to_o carry_v the_o world_n after_o he_o into_o such_o a_o notorious_a apostasy_n it_o be_v not_o persecution_n that_o make_v the_o world_n christian_a but_o toleration_n that_o make_v the_o world_n antichristian_a furthermore_o the_o hurt_n of_o the_o unknowing_a zeal_n of_o good_a emperor_n do_v to_o the_o church_n come_v in_o also_o another_o way_n by_z advancing_z church-officer_n to_o mountain_n of_o high_a preferment_n and_o settle_a endowment_n rev._n 8.8_o 9_o the_o church_n never_o take_v hurt_v by_o the_o punishment_n of_o heretic_n moreover_o when_o god_n advance_v constantine_n and_o other_o good_a emperor_n to_o sit_v on_o the_o throne_n it_o be_v true_a the_o church_n soon_o become_v a_o wilderness_n but_o that_o come_v not_o to_o pass_v because_o those_o emperor_n force_a pagan_n into_o church-fellowship_n by_o the_o material_a sword_n as_o the_o discusser_n intimate_v but_o untrue_o but_o 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answer_n have_v learn_v the_o language_n of_o lion_n like_o persecution_n etc._n etc._n for_o thus_o he_o write_v more_o and_o great_a prince_n than_o these_o you_o mention_v have_v not_o tolerate_v heretic_n and_o schismatic_o notwithstanding_o their_o pretence_n of_o conscience_n and_o their_o arrogate_a the_o crown_n of_o martyrdom_n to_o their_o suffering_n it_o be_v true_a these_o term_n heretic_n or_o wilful_o obstinate_a and_o schismatic_n be_v use_v in_o holy_a writ_n it_o be_v true_a also_o that_o such_o pretend_v conscience_n and_o arrogate_v the_o crown_n of_o martyrdom_n to_o their_o suffering_n but_o this_o be_v the_o common_a clamour_n of_o persecutor_n against_o the_o witness_n of_o jesus_n in_o all_o age_n you_o be_v heretic_n schismatic_n factious_a seditious_a rebellious_a defender_n if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o these_o be_v scripture_n term_n and_o by_o his_o own_o acknowledgement_n true_o applyable_a to_o heretic_n and_o schismatic_n then_o it_o seem_v the_o 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be_v no_o persecution_n and_o therefore_o by_o proportion_n neither_o be_v the_o civil_a punishment_n of_o a_o heretic_n persecution_n and_o the_o reason_n in_o my_o word_n follow_v reach_v both_o for_o to_o persecute_v be_v to_o punish_v a_o innocent_a but_o a_o heretic_n be_v not_o a_o innocent_a but_o a_o culpable_a and_o damnable_a person_n 2._o i_o answer_v by_o concession_n of_o hilaryes_n word_n in_o hilary_n meaning_n it_o be_v true_a what_o hilary_n say_v neither_o do_v the_o apostle_n nor_o may_v we_o propagate_v christian_a religion_n by_o the_o sword_n etc._n etc._n discusser_n but_o a_o christian_a church_n do_v no_o more_o persecute_v than_o a_o lily_n do_v scratch_v thorn_n or_o a_o lamb_n pursue_v and_o tear_v the_o wolf_n or_o a_o turtle_n dove_n do_v hunt_v the_o hawk_n or_o eagle_n or_o a_o chaste_a modest_a virgin_n fight_v and_o scratch_v like_o whore_n and_o harlot_n defender_n if_o by_o persecution_n the_o discusser_n mean_v as_o it_o seem_v he_o do_v the_o infliction_n of_o the_o civil_a punishment_n his_o speech_n be_v true_a and_o the_o proportion_n hold_v civil_a punishment_n be_v as_o improper_a for_o christian_a church_n to_o inflict_v as_o for_o lily_n to_o scratch_v thorn_n or_o lamb_n to_o tear_v wolf_n etc._n etc._n but_o if_o the_o lamb_n he_o speak_v of_o in_o his_o comparison_n be_v as_o reasonable_a as_o the_o lamb_n of_o christ_n be_v though_o they_o will_v not_o themselves_o pursue_v and_o tear_v the_o wolf_n yet_o they_o will_v run_v to_o their_o shepherd_n and_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v the_o shepherd_n of_o all_o their_o people_n to_o send_v out_o their_o dog_n after_o the_o wolf_n to_o pursue_v and_o tear_v they_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o chaste_a and_o modest_a eye_n of_o a_o christian_a church_n shall_v any_o more_o spare_v and_o pity_v a_o spiritual_a adulterer_n that_o seek_v to_o withdraw_v she_o from_o her_o spouse_n to_o a_o false_a christ_n than_o the_o eye_n of_o a_o holy_a israelite_n be_v to_o spare_v and_o pity_v the_o like_a tempter_n in_o day_n of_o old_a deut._n 13.8_o chap._n 66._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 69._o discusser_n the_o answer_n by_o concession_n to_o hilaryes_n word_n may_v surth_o be_v discuss_v it_o be_v true_a say_v the_o answerer_n as_o hylary_n speak_v that_o neither_o the_o apostle_n nor_o we_o may_v propagate_v christian_a religion_n by_o the_o sword_n but_o if_o pagan_n can_v be_v win_v by_o the_o word_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v compel_v by_o the_o sword_n nevertheless_o this_o hinder_v not_o but_o if_o they_o or_o any_o other_o shall_v blaspheme_v the_o true_a god_n and_o his_o true_a religion_n they_o ought_v to_o be_v severe_o punish_v and_o no_o less_o do_v they_o deserve_v who_o seduce_v from_o the_o truth_n to_o damnable_a heresy_n and_o idolatry_n in_o which_o answer_n i_o observe_v first_o his_o agreement_n with_o hilary_n that_o christian_a
abound_v in_o worldly_a blessing_n till_o the_o lord_n jesus_n come_v ride_v forth_o among_o they_o upon_o a_o white_a horse_n of_o the_o gospel_n of_o his_o grace_n yet_o after_o they_o neglect_v so_o great_a salvation_n than_o follow_v a_o red_a horse_n of_o war_n and_o a_o black_a horse_n of_o famine_n and_o a_o pale_a horse_n of_o pestilence_n and_o other_o judgement_n which_o much_o impeach_v both_o the_o health_n and_o wealth_n of_o that_o state_n and_o will_v have_v ruin_v it_o have_v it_o not_o cast_v away_o her_o idol_n and_o advance_v the_o sceptre_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n now_o the_o god_n of_o all_o grace_n be_v please_v at_o length_n to_o shake_v the_o heart_n of_o this_o discusser_n that_o he_o may_v not_o thus_o delight_v to_o seduce_v himself_o and_o other_o against_o the_o light_n of_o grace_n and_o conscience_n against_o reason_n and_o experience_n discusser_n again_o in_o the_o answerers_n joint-confession_n with_o luther_n that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o use_v the_o secular_a power_n to_o compel_v man_n to_o the_o faith_n and_o profession_n of_o the_o truth_n he_o condemn_v as_o before_o i_o have_v observe_v 1._o his_o former_a implication_n that_o they_o may_v be_v compel_v when_o they_o be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o defender_n this_o implication_n where_o it_o be_v former_o observe_v it_o have_v be_v former_o clear_v from_o implication_n of_o contradiction_n i_o have_v never_o say_v that_o after_o man_n be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n they_o may_v be_v compel_v to_o the_o profession_n of_o it_o by_o any_o penalty_n but_o only_o by_o withdraw_v such_o favour_n as_o be_v not_o comely_a or_o safe_a for_o faithless_a person_n discusser_n 2._o he_o condemn_v their_o own_o practice_n who_o suffer_v no_o man_n of_o any_o different_a conscience_n and_o worship_n to_o live_v in_o their_o jurisdiction_n unless_o he_o depart_v from_o the_o exercise_n of_o his_o own_o religion_n and_o worship_n differ_v from_o that_o allow_v of_o in_o their_o civil_a estate_n yea_o and_o also_o actual_o submit_v to_o come_v to_o their_o church_n defender_n this_o charge_n of_o the_o discusser_n let_v he_o consider_v if_o it_o be_v not_o contradictory_n to_o his_o own_o relation_n chap._n 60._o where_o he_o say_v we_o permit_v and_o tolerate_v the_o indian_n in_o their_o paganish_a worship_n which_o we_o may_v restrain_v yet_o here_o he_o say_v we_o suffer_v no_o man_n of_o any_o different_a conscience_n or_o worship_n to_o live_v in_o our_o jurisdiction_n neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o we_o suffer_v no_o man_n of_o any_o different_a conscience_n or_o worship_n to_o live_v in_o our_o jurisdiction_n for_o not_o to_o speak_v of_o presbyterian_o who_o do_v not_o only_o live_v among_o we_o but_o exercise_v their_o public_a ministry_n without_o disturbance_n there_o be_v anabaptist_n and_o antinomian_o tolerate_v to_o live_v not_o only_o in_o our_o jurisdiction_n but_o even_o in_o some_o of_o our_o church_n yea_o say_v the_o discusser_n but_o they_o must_v actual_o submit_v to_o come_v to_o our_o church_n i_o can_v say_v nor_o do_v i_o believe_v that_o any_o man_n be_v compel_v to_o come_v to_o our_o church_n against_o his_o conscience_n nay_o we_o be_v so_o far_o from_o that_o and_o that_o the_o discusser_n be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o that_o our_o church_n do_v not_o expostulate_v with_o our_o member_n who_o hear_v in_o england_n no_o not_o then_o when_o there_o be_v more_o difference_n from_o we_o in_o manner_n of_o worship_n than_o through_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n now_o there_o be_v the_o which_o the_o discusser_v himself_o have_v declare_v to_o have_v be_v no_o little_a offence_n unto_o himself_o which_o make_v i_o the_o more_o to_o marvel_v that_o he_o shall_v now_o charge_v it_o upon_o we_o that_o we_o compel_v all_o to_o come_v to_o hear_v in_o our_o church_n against_o their_o conscience_n when_o he_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v offend_v that_o we_o suffer_v they_o to_o hear_v in_o any_o true_a church_n though_o pollute_v according_a to_o their_o conscience_n discusser_n howsoever_o they_o cover_v the_o matter_n with_o this_o varnish_n that_o none_o be_v compel_v further_o unto_o their_o church_n then_o unto_o the_o hear_n of_o the_o word_n unto_o which_o all_o man_n be_v bind_v yet_o it_o will_v appear_v that_o teach_v and_o be_v teach_v in_o a_o church_n estate_n be_v a_o church-worship_n as_o true-and_a proper_a a_o church-worship_n as_o be_v the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n act_n 2.46_o i_o can_v call_v to_o mind_n that_o either_o upon_o that_o colour_n or_o any_o other_o any_o man_n in_o this_o country_n be_v ever_o compel_v to_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o any_o of_o our_o church_n in_o this_o country_n but_o there_o be_v indeed_o some_o colour_n for_o the_o varnish_n he_o speak_v of_o but_o not_o that_o which_o he_o pretend_v our_o compulsion_n of_o any_o man_n for_o to_o hear_v but_o a_o controversy_n with_o himself_o upon_o another_o occasion_n as_o i_o remember_v the_o discusser_v sometime_o endeavour_v to_o draw_v away_o the_o church_n of_o salem_n whereof_o he_o be_v sometime_o teacher_n from_o hold_v communion_n with_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o bay_n because_o we_o tolerate_v our_o member_n to_o hear_v the_o word_n in_o the_o parish_n of_o england_n we_o to_o satisfy_v he_o in_o that_o hold_v forth_o that_o which_o here_o he_o call_v a_o varnish_n that_o hear_v be_v a_o common_a duty_n lie_v upon_o all_o man_n where_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v true_o teach_v he_o reply_v as_o he_o do_v now_o that_o teach_v and_o hear_v in_o a_o church-estate_n be_v church_n worship_n act_v 2.46_o to_o which_o we_o give_v answer_v as_o now_o again_o that_o though_o teach_v and_o be_v teach_v in_o a_o church-estate_n be_v church-worship_n according_a to_o act_n 2.46_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o a_o church-worship_n but_o to_o such_o as_o be_v in_o a_o church-estate_n to_o all_o it_o be_v a_o holy_a ordinance_n of_o god_n worship_n and_o a_o christian_a duty_n and_o though_o teach_v and_o hear_v do_v imply_v a_o relation_n yet_o not_o a_o church-relation_n there_o be_v a_o relation_n between_o a_o teacher_n and_o a_o learner_n in_o any_o art_n or_o knowledge_n and_o there_o may_v be_v a_o near_a relation_n between_o a_o preacher_n and_o a_o hearer_n in_o case_n the_o hearer_n be_v beget_v to_o god_n by_o such_o a_o sermon_n even_o the_o same_o relation_n as_o be_v between_o a_o spiritual_a father_n and_o son_n but_o this_o do_v not_o amount_v to_o church-relation_n and_o communion_n till_o there_o pass_v some_o mutual_a profession_n of_o covenant_n explicit_a or_o implicit_a between_o they_o a_o pagan_a infidel_n may_v come_v into_o a_o christian_a church-assemble_o to_o hear_v the_o word_n and_o may_v be_v convince_v and_o convert_v by_o it_o as_o suppose_v he_o in_o corinth_n 1_o corinthian_n 14.24_o 25._o yet_o be_v he_o not_o therefore_o join_v in_o church-estate_n and_o fellowship_n with_o they_o without_o profession_n of_o acknowledgement_n and_o acceptance_n discusser_n second_o all_o person_n papist_n and_o protestant_n that_o be_v conscientious_a have_v always_o suffer_v upon_o this_o ground_n especial_o that_o they_o have_v refuse_v to_o come_v to_o each_o other_o church_n or_o meet_v defender_n it_o be_v too_o large_a a_o hyperbole_n to_o affirm_v that_o all_o person_n that_o be_v conscientious_a whether_o papist_n or_o protestant_n have_v always_o suffer_v upon_o this_o ground_n be_v no_o man_n conscientious_a but_o such_o as_o have_v suffer_v upon_o this_o ground_n be_v there_o not_o many_o that_o be_v never_o put_v upon_o this_o trial_n and_o be_v not_o many_o conscientious_a that_o never_o scruple_v this_o point_n and_o be_v there_o not_o many_o conscientious_a that_o have_v suffer_v upon_o other_o point_n that_o never_o suffer_v upon_o this_o point_n beside_o though_o many_o conscientious_a protestant_n and_o papist_n do_v refuse_v to_o hear_v in_o each_o other_o assembly_n or_o church_n it_o be_v not_o because_o such_o hear_n do_v implant_v they_o into_o their_o church-state_n but_o out_o of_o fear_n to_o be_v leaven_v with_o their_o corrupt_a doctrine_n or_o pollute_v with_o some_o other_o part_n of_o false_a worship_n chap._n 71._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 74._o touch_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o papist_n against_o persecution_n discusser_n as_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o popish_a book_n say_v the_o answerer_n we_o veigh_v it_o not_o as_o know_v what_o ever_o they_o speak_v for_o toleration_n of_o religion_n where_o themselves_o be_v under_o hatch_n yet_o when_o themselves_o come_v to_o sit_v at_o stern_a they_o judge_v and_o practice_v quite_o contrary_a as_o both_o their_o writing_n and_o judicial_a proceed_n have_v testify_v to_o the_o world_n these_o many_o year_n but_o for_o answer_n to_o he_o though_o both_o their_o writing_n and_o practice_n have_v be_v such_o yet_o the_o
that_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n make_v the_o ministry_n one_o of_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a religion_n heb._n 6.1.2_o for_o it_o be_v only_o a_o foundation_n of_o church_n order_n not_o of_o faith_n or_o religion_n the_o apostle_n put_v a_o express_a difference_n between_o faith_n and_o church_n order_n colos_n 2.5_o nor_o be_v it_o a_o true_a and_o safe_a speech_n to_o call_v the_o fellowship_n or_o blessing_n of_o god_n vouchsafe_v to_o corrupt_a church_n or_o minister_n or_o ministration_n to_o call_v it_o i_o say_v unpromise_v or_o to_o be_v beyond_o a_o word_n or_o promise_v of_o god_n for_o it_o be_v a_o large_a and_o yet_o a_o express_a promise_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n that_o god_n will_v be_v merciful_a to_o our_o iniquity_n 31.34_o jer._n 31.34_o that_o he_o will_v be_v merciful_a to_o every_o one_o that_o prepare_v his_o heart_n to_o seek_v god_n though_o he_o be_v not_o cleanse_v according_a to_o the_o purification_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n 2_o chron._n 30.18_o 19_o 20._o with_o many_o more_o such_o like_a and_o therefore_o there_o want_v not_o promise_n of_o grace_n and_o blessing_n to_o the_o people_n of_o god_n notwithstanding_o some_o defect_n and_o impurity_n find_v in_o their_o administration_n neither_o will_v it_o follow_v that_o if_o our_o ministry_n and_o ordination_n here_o be_v true_a that_o then_o the_o former_a which_o we_o have_v in_o england_n be_v false_a especial_o so_o false_a as_o that_o according_a to_o visible_a rule_n fellowship_n with_o god_n be_v lose_v for_o the_o rite_n of_o ordination_n we_o do_v not_o look_v at_o it_o as_o any_o essential_a part_n of_o our_o vocation_n to_o the_o ministry_n no_o more_o than_o coronation_n be_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o office_n of_o the_o king_n and_o though_o we_o do_v not_o just_o sundry_a thing_n find_v in_o our_o ministry_n yet_o jehoshuah_n the_o high_a priest_n do_v not_o loose_v his_o fellowship_n with_o god_n though_o he_o be_v clothe_v with_o 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other_o just_a reason_n of_o forbid_v the_o persecution_n of_o they_o as_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o confidence_n on_o god_n in_o time_n of_o danger_n above_o pagan_n and_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o father_n favourable_a grant_n to_o they_o and_o chief_o in_o that_o by_o their_o prayer_n they_o have_v save_v his_o army_n in_o great_a distress_n in_o germany_n and_o destroy_v their_o enemy_n but_o he_o be_v so_o far_o from_o seek_v their_o conversion_n to_o his_o paganism_n by_o lenity_n towards_o they_o that_o he_o strait_o charge_v his_o officer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o to_o draw_v any_o such_o to_o repentance_n and_o bondage_n both_o his_o rescript_n be_v extant_a in_o the_o end_n of_o justin_n martyr_n second_v apology_n for_o christian_n chap._n 41._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 41._o discuss_v the_o text_n isay_n 2.4_o with_o mica_n 4.3_o discusser_n the_o next_o scripture_n against_o persecution_n be_v that_o of_o the_o prophet_n isaiah_n 2.4_o together_o with_o 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judge_v thou_o for_o that_o which_o he_o add_v be_v as_o evil_a and_o bitter_a as_o the_o former_a word_n be_v good_a and_o sweet_a but_o this_o do_v not_o forbid_v they_o to_o drive_v ravenous_a wolf_n from_o the_o sheepfold_n and_o to_o restrain_v they_o from_o devour_v the_o sheep_n of_o christ_n but_o this_o fight_v against_o the_o former_a truth_n to_o wit_n that_o christ_n by_o spiritual_a weapon_n will_v subdue_v the_o nation_n of_o the_o earth_n to_o the_o obedience_n of_o the_o gospel_n for_o by_o drive_v away_o these_o wolf_n he_o intend_v not_o only_o the_o resistance_n or_o violence_n which_o the_o shepherd_n of_o christ_n ought_v spiritual_o to_o make_v but_o the_o civil_a resistance_n of_o the_o material_a sword_n staff_n gun_n etc._n etc._n whence_o i_o argue_v that_o same_o power_n force_v the_o evil_a the_o wolf_n out_o force_v the_o good_a the_o sheep_n in_o for_o of_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v the_o like_a and_o same_o reason_n etc._n etc._n defender_n he_o shall_v 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which_o paul_n foretell_v to_o the_o elder_n of_o ephesus_n shall_v come_v in_o among_o they_o not_o spare_v the_o flock_n act_v 20.29_o a_o place_n which_o i_o quote_v not_o nor_o do_v apply_v to_o the_o cause_n in_o hand_n but_o he_o as_o a_o full_a vessel_n abound_v and_o run_v over_o in_o wit_n and_o word_n and_o it_o seem_v in_o leisure_n he_o propound_v and_o discuss_v three_o question_n about_o these_o wolf_n in_o this_o chapter_n and_o two_o more_o in_o the_o next_o discusser_n as_o 1._o what_o wolf_n be_v those_o paul_n warn_v of_o not_o literal_o mean_v nor_o persecutor_n of_o the_o flock_n such_o as_o the_o roman_a emperor_n but_o such_o as_o bring_v in_o other_o religion_n and_o worship_n such_o as_o among_o themselves_o shall_v speak_v perverse_a thing_n as_o many_o antichrist_n do_v and_o i_o
do_v in_o vain_a go_v about_o from_o this_o place_n to_o establish_v their_o sacrilegious_a tyranny_n by_o give_v law_n without_o the_o word_n and_o beside_o the_o word_n to_o bind_v conscience_n therefore_o civil_a magistrate_n of_o who_o this_o whole_a discourse_n be_v shall_v exercise_v a_o sacrilegious_a tyranny_n over_o the_o conscience_n and_o in_o vain_a go_v about_o to_o establish_v it_o from_o this_o place_n when_o from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n they_o establish_v true_a religion_n and_o go_v about_o to_o punish_v the_o fundamental_a subverter_n of_o the_o same_o but_o how_o far_o off_o calve_v judgement_n be_v to_o restrain_v civil_a magistrate_n from_o meddle_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n let_v he_o interpret_v himself_o in_o his_o own_o word_n in_o his_o opuscula_fw-la in_o his_o answer_n to_o servetus_n who_o be_v put_v to_o death_n for_o his_o heresy_n at_o geneva_n by_o his_o procurement_n ho_o uno_fw-la say_v he_o contentus_fw-la sum_fw-la christi_fw-la adventû_fw-fr nec_fw-la mutatum_fw-la esse_fw-la ordinem_fw-la politicum_fw-la nec_fw-la de_fw-la magistratuum_fw-la officio_fw-la quicquam_fw-la detractum_fw-la a_o gedùm_fw-la quod_fw-la paulus_n docet_fw-la rom._n 13.4_o non_fw-la frustra_fw-la ah_o ipsis_fw-la gladium_fw-la gestari_fw-la a_o ad_fw-la speciem_fw-la unam_fw-la restringi_fw-la debet_fw-la fatentur_fw-la isti_fw-la quibuscum_fw-la nunc_fw-la discepto_fw-la ad_fw-la alia_fw-la crimina_fw-la plectenda_fw-la judices_fw-la divini●ùs_fw-la esse_fw-la amatos_fw-la mo●●_n â_fw-la religione_fw-la abstineani_fw-la ut_fw-la libera_fw-la ipsis_fw-la tacentibus_fw-la impietas_fw-la lasciviat_fw-la verirm_a reclamat_fw-la innumeris_fw-la locis_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sanctus_n etc._n etc._n this_o one_o thing_n say_v he_o suffice_v i_o that_o by_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n neither_o be_v the_o state_n of_o civil_a government_n change_v nor_o any_o thing_n take_v away_o from_o the_o magistrate_n office_n go_v to_o then_o that_o which_o paul_n teach_v rom._n 13.4_o that_o he_o bear_v not_o the_o sword_n in_o vain_a ought_v it_o to_o be_v restrain_v unto_o one_o kind_n only_o they_o themselves_o confess_v with_o who_o i_o have_v to_o deal_v the_o magistrate_n be_v arm_v of_o god_n to_o punish_v other_o crime_n so_o that_o they_o abstain_v from_o matter_n of_o religion_n that_o so_o ungodlynesse_n may_v run_v riot_n by_o their_o connivance_n but_o the_o holy_a ghost_n cry_v out_o against_o this_o in_o many_o place_n etc._n etc._n discusser_n again_o calvin_n speak_v of_o sulfil_v the_o law_n by_o love_n write_v thus_o on_o the_o same_o place_n paul_n have_v not_o respect_n unto_o the_o whole_a law_n he_o speak_v only_o of_o those_o duty_n which_o the_o law_n command_v we_o towards_o our_o neighbour_n and_o after_o paul_n only_o mention_v the_o second_o table_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o he_o repeat_v love_n be_v the_o fulfil_n of_o the_o law_n understand_v it_o as_o before_o of_o that_o part_n of_o the_o law_n which_o concern_v humane_a society_n for_o the_o former_a table_n of_o the_o law_n which_o be_v of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n be_v not_o here_o touch_v so_o beza_n upon_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o there_o be_v any_o other_o commandment_n it_o be_v sum_v up_o in_o this_o thou_o shall_v love_v thy_o neighbour_n as_o thyself_o the_o whole_a law_n say_v he_o command_v nothing_o but_o the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o our_o neighbour_n but_o since_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o place_n discourse_v of_o the_o mutual_a duty_n of_o man_n one_o to_o another_o i_o think_v this_o term_n law_n aught_o to_o be_v restrain_v to_o the_o second_o table_n defender_n and_o so_o think_v i_o too_o yet_o without_o the_o least_o prejudice_n to_o the_o cause_n in_o hand_n for_o if_o the_o question_n be_v of_o the_o duty_n which_o subject_n owe_v to_o magistrate_n they_o pertain_v to_o the_o second_o table_n or_o if_o the_o question_n be_v of_o the_o virtue_n eof_o love_v one_o to_o another_o that_o it_o be_v the_o fulfil_n of_o the_o whole_a law_n it_o be_v mean_v chief_o of_o the_o second_o table_n though_o withal_o it_o be_v true_a the_o second_o table_n can_v be_v fulfil_v without_o fulfil_v of_o the_o first_o table_n also_o these_o thing_n be_v out_o of_o controversy_n but_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n the_o apostle_n in_o call_v love_n the_o fulfil_n of_o the_o law_n speak_v of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o second_o table_n ergo_fw-la the_o magistrate_n who_o be_v speak_v of_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n have_v no_o power_n to_o punish_v the_o crime_n against_o the_o first_o table_n or_o thus_o further_o in_o the_o 13._o of_o the_o roman_n the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o the_o duty_n of_o subject_n to_o magistrate_n which_o be_v a_o duty_n of_o the_o second_o table_n therefore_o magistrate_n have_v no_o power_n to_o punish_v their_o subject_n for_o crime_n against_o the_o first_o table_n the_o discusser_n may_v as_o well_o argue_v that_o the_o duty_n of_o subject_n to_o magistrate_n be_v duty_n of_o the_o second_o table_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o the_o duty_n of_o subject_n to_o pray_v for_o their_o magistrate_n which_o be_v a_o duty_n of_o the_o first_o table_n the_o truth_n be_v though_o prayer_n be_v a_o duty_n of_o the_o first_o table_n yet_o to_o pray_v for_o magistrate_n be_v a_o duty_n of_o the_o second_o table_n in_o like_a sort_n though_o idolatry_n and_o blasphemy_n and_o heresy_n be_v sin_n against_o the_o first_o table_n yet_o to_o punish_v these_o with_o civil_a penalty_n be_v a_o duty_n of_o the_o second_o table_n for_o let_v it_o be_v consider_v in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n be_v not_o all_o duty_n of_o righteousness_n to_o man_n command_v in_o the_o second_o table_n as_o well_o as_o all_o duty_n of_o holiness_n to_o god_n command_v in_o the_o first_o table_n if_o so_o i_o demand_v again_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o a_o duty_n of_o righteousness_n belong_v to_o the_o people_n of_o god_n to_o enjoy_v the_o free_a passage_n of_o religion_n truth_n of_o doctrine_n holiness_n of_o worship_n purity_n of_o church-government_n i_o demand_v yet_o further_o if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o injurious_a deal_n to_o the_o people_n of_o god_n to_o disturb_v the_o truth_n of_o doctrine_n with_o heresy_n the_o holiness_n of_o worship_n with_o idolatry_n the_o purity_n of_o government_n with_o tyranny_n if_o all_o these_o be_v grant_v than_o it_o avoidable_o follow_v that_o all_o these_o way_n of_o unrighteousness_n be_v just_o punishable_a by_o the_o second_o table_n let_v not_o therefore_o the_o discusser_n please_v himself_o in_o delude_v himself_o and_o the_o world_n that_o beza_n and_o calvine_n do_v absolute_o deny_v the_o 13._o of_o the_o roman_n to_o concern_v any_o matter_n of_o the_o first_o table_n for_o though_o the_o duty_n of_o loyalty_n to_o magistrate_n and_o of_o love_n to_o all_o concern_v the_o second_o table_n yet_o it_o be_v neither_o the_o word_n nor_o judgement_n of_o calvine_n or_o beza_n so_o to_o interpret_v rom._n 13._o as_o to_o exempt_a magistrate_n from_o power_n of_o punish_v heresy_n and_o idolatry_n calvine_v interpretation_n of_o rom._n 13.4_o and_o his_o argument_n from_o thence_o against_o servetus_n be_v declare_v above_o in_o this_o chapter_n hear_v now_o how_o beza_n interprete_v the_o same_o text_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v de_fw-fr haereticis_fw-la â_fw-la magistratu_fw-la puniendis_fw-la testatur_fw-la paulus_n magistratum_fw-la esse_fw-la dei_fw-la ministrum_fw-la qui_fw-la gladium_fw-la gerat_fw-la ad_fw-la eas_fw-la ulciscendas_fw-la qui_fw-la malè_fw-la agunt_fw-la rom._n 13.4_o quamobrem_fw-la alterutrum_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-la in_o haereticos_fw-la magistratus_fw-la jus_o nullum_fw-la habet_fw-la vel_fw-la ipsos_fw-la malè_fw-la non_fw-la agere_fw-la quod_fw-la refutatione_n indigere_fw-la non_fw-la puto_fw-la vel_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o genere_fw-la paulus_n ait_fw-la ad_fw-la certum_fw-la maleficiorum_fw-la genus_fw-la revocandum_fw-la eorum_fw-la videlicet_fw-la quae_fw-la corporalia_fw-la peccata_fw-la vocant_fw-la de_fw-la quo_fw-la malificiorum_fw-la discrimine_fw-la copiosius_fw-la ut_fw-la spero_fw-la posteà_fw-la svo_fw-la loco_fw-la disseram_fw-la that_o be_v paul_n witness_v say_v he_o that_o the_o magistrate_n be_v god_n minister_n who_o bear_v the_o sword_n to_o take_v vengeance_n on_o they_o that_o do_v evil_a rom._n 13.4_o wherefore_o one_o of_o these_o two_o must_v needs_o be_v if_o magistrate_n shall_v have_v no_o just_a power_n over_o heretic_n either_o that_o heretic_n be_v not_o evil_a doer_n which_o be_v so_o gross_a that_o i_o think_v it_o need_v no_o refutation_n or_o else_o that_o paul_n speech_n be_v to_o be_v restrain_v to_o a_o certain_a sort_n of_o evil_a deed_n to_o wit_n such_o as_o they_o call_v corporal_a sin_n of_o which_o distinction_n of_o evil_a deed_n i_o shall_v dispute_v more_o large_o i_o hope_v in_o his_o due_a place_n hereafter_o so_o beza_n chap._n 48._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 48._o discusser_n the_o high_a power_n in_o this_o rom._n 13._o be_v among_o other_o the_o roman_a emperor_n and_o subordinate_a magistrate_n
under_o they_o but_o they_o all_o be_v stranger_n from_o the_o life_n of_o god_n yea_o most_o averse_a and_o opposite_a yea_o cruel_a and_o bloody_a persecutor_n of_o the_o name_n and_o follower_n of_o jesus_n and_o yet_o unto_o these_o be_v subjection_n command_v now_o than_o i_o argue_v if_o paul_n have_v command_v this_o subjection_n to_o roman_a magistrate_n in_o spiritual_a cause_n to_o defend_v the_o truth_n to_o punish_v heretic_n neither_o of_o which_o they_o can_v discern_v nor_o judge_v of_o but_o by_o trust_n from_o other_o as_o pilate_n condemn_v jesus_n he_o must_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n have_v put_v out_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n and_o sense_n at_o once_o defender_n not_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n for_o beside_o calvin_n and_o beza_n who_o judgement_n you_o have_v hear_v all_o those_o interpreter_n who_o expound_v this_o place_n in_o the_o roman_n of_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o punish_v spiritual_a evil_a doer_n as_o well_o as_o corporal_a they_o none_o of_o they_o do_v so_o judge_v that_o paul_n in_o command_v the_o church_n to_o yield_v subjection_n unto_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n do_v put_v out_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n and_o sense_n at_o once_o for_o first_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o yield_v subjection_n to_o the_o unrighteous_a decree_n of_o ignorant_a and_o pagan_a magistrate_n another_o thing_n to_o obey_v their_o ordinance_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o worship_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n the_o former_a of_o these_o christian_n do_v yield_v unto_o the_o roman_a magistrate_n even_o subjection_n unto_o the_o death_n the_o other_o they_o neither_o do_v nor_o aught_o to_o yield_v as_o know_v god_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v rather_o than_o man_n second_o though_o it_o be_v true_a whilst_o the_o roman_a emperor_n and_o magistrate_n be_v pagan_n and_o persecutor_n they_o be_v incompetent_a judge_n to_o discern_v and_o give_v sentence_n in_o the_o spiritual_a matter_n of_o christian_a religion_n yet_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n who_o command_v a_o duty_n command_v all_o the_o necessary_a mean_n which_o tend_v to_o that_o duty_n and_o therefore_o in_o give_v they_o a_o power_n and_o charge_n to_o execute_v vengeance_n on_o evil_a doer_n and_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o spiritual_a unrighteousness_n against_o the_o church_n as_o in_o matter_n of_o civil_a unrighteousness_n against_o the_o commonwealth_n it_o behove_v they_o to_o inquire_v and_o listen_v after_o true_a religion_n to_o hear_v and_o try_v all_o and_o upon_o serious_a deliberate_a and_o just_a scrute_v to_o hold_v fast_o that_o which_o be_v good_a and_o so_o prevent_v the_o disturbance_n thereof_o by_o the_o contrary_n it_o be_v no_o vain_a charge_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n psal_n 2_o 10_o 11_o 12._o if_o christ_n have_v a_o iron_n sceptre_n in_o his_o hand_n to_o crush_v all_o state_n and_o kingdom_n emperor_n and_o prince_n as_o well_o as_o private_a person_n be_v wise_a now_o therefore_o o_o you_o king_n be_v instruct_v you_o that_o be_v judge_n of_o the_o earth_n serve_v the_o lord_n with_o fear_n rejoice_v unto_o he_o with_o tremble_v kiss_v the_o son_n lest_o he_o be_v angry_a and_o you_o perish_v in_o the_o way_n three_o the_o case_n of_o religion_n wherein_o we_o allow_v civil_a magistrate_n to_o be_v judge_n be_v so_o fundamental_a and_o palpable_a that_o no_o magistrate_n studious_a of_o religion_n in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n but_o if_o he_o have_v any_o spiritual_a discern_a as_o all_o true_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v and_o even_o pagan_n have_v discern_v between_o innocent_a christian_n and_o turbulent_a seducer_n he_o can_v but_o judge_v of_o such_o gross_a corruption_n as_o be_v unsufferable_a in_o religion_n as_o have_v be_v open_v above_o though_o we_o reserve_v to_o the_o prophet_n and_o church_n judicium_fw-la propheticum_fw-la as_o have_v be_v say_v above_o yet_o we_o allow_v judicium_fw-la politicum_fw-la to_o civil_a magistrate_n studious_a of_o truth_n as_o all_o aught_o to_o be_v and_o the_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n unto_o all_o christian_n but_o as_o for_o such_o magigistrate_n as_o be_v mere_o natural_a and_o pagan_a though_o christian_n be_v bind_v to_o subject_v themselves_o unto_o they_o with_o patience_n yet_o such_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o forbear_v the_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n either_o in_o protect_v or_o punish_v matter_n of_o religion_n till_o they_o have_v learn_v so_o much_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n as_o may_v enable_v they_o to_o discern_v of_o thing_n that_o differ_v but_o this_o forbearance_n of_o they_o be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n in_o their_o calling_n nor_o for_o want_v of_o duty_n in_o their_o conscience_n but_o for_o want_v of_o evidence_n to_o they_o in_o the_o cause_n in_o which_o case_n magistrate_n be_v wont_a to_o forbear_v their_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n and_o to_o respite_n judgement_n even_o in_o civil_a cause_n not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n or_o duty_n to_o do_v justice_n but_o for_o want_v of_o ripe_a and_o full_a cognizance_n of_o the_o cause_n chap._n 49._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 49._o discusser_n why_o then_o do_v paul_n himself_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n act_n 25._o unless_o that_o caesar_n though_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o yet_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v a_o fit_a judge_n in_o such_o matter_n answ_n paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n not_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o his_o religion_n but_o to_o defend_v he_o from_o civil_a violence_n and_o slanderous_a accusation_n about_o sedition_n mutiny_n civil_a disobedience_n etc._n etc._n from_o which_o caesar_n as_o a_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n ought_v to_o defend_v he_o defender_n this_o appeal_n of_o paul_n to_o caesar_n do_v evident_o hold_v forth_o three_o thing_n 1._o that_o there_o be_v a_o lawful_a and_o needful_a use_n of_o civil_a magistracy_n unto_o christian_n 2._o that_o church_n officer_n even_o of_o high_a rank_n the_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o other_o minister_n be_v subject_a to_o civil_a authority_n as_o well_o as_o private_a christian_n 3._o that_o paul_n do_v submit_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seate_n the_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n as_o well_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n as_o in_o civil_a conversation_n for_o he_o plead_v his_o innocency_n that_o he_o be_v guilty_a in_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o and_o for_o trial_n hereof_o he_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 11._o now_o the_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o be_v offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n as_o well_o as_o against_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 8._o and_o offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n be_v matter_n of_o religion_n and_o yet_o even_o in_o these_o paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seat_n for_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n discusser_n but_o if_o paul_n in_o this_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n have_v submit_v his_o religion_n which_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o christ_n his_o ministry_n and_o ministration_n to_o the_o roman_a emperor_n tribunal_n he_o have_v sin_v first_o against_o the_o light_n of_o reason_n second_o against_o the_o cause_n of_o religion_n three_o against_o the_o holy_a call_v of_o a_o christian_n four_o against_o his_o own_o call_n of_o apostleship_n five_o against_o the_o holy_a name_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n defender_n all_o these_o sin_n may_v with_o some_o colour_n have_v be_v charge_v upon_o paul_n if_o he_o have_v appeal_v to_o caesar_n to_o judge_n whether_o his_o religion_n or_o ministry_n or_o ministration_n be_v of_o god_n or_o no._n but_o that_o be_v no_o point_n of_o his_o appeal_v but_o whether_o his_o religion_n or_o ministry_n or_o ministration_n be_v guilty_a of_o any_o capital_a crime_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n or_o against_o the_o temple_n or_o against_o caesar_n now_o in_o this_o case_n paul_n may_v safe_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n and_o that_o to_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n of_o his_o apostolic_a and_o christian_a call_v and_o to_o the_o glory_n of_o his_o religion_n the_o reason_n against_o paul_n appeal_v in_o this_o case_n be_v but_o bul-rush_n chap._n 50._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 50._o discusser_n have_v dispatch_v two_o argument_n against_o the_o sound_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n power_n in_o spiritual_a cause_n in_o rom._n 13._o first_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o calvin_n and_o beza_n the_o second_o from_o caesar_n incompetency_n and_o insufficiency_n to_o judge_n of_o spiritual_a matter_n i_o come_v now_o to_o the_o three_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o magistrate_n weapon_n he_o have_v a_o sword_n and_o that_o sword_n be_v a_o civil_a sword_n a_o sword_n of_o civil_a justice_n which_o be_v of_o a_o material_a and_o civil_a nature_n serve_v for_o the_o defence_n of_o person_n estate_n family_n liberty_n of_o
in_o a_o way_n of_o hostility_n notwithstanding_o any_o church-power_n if_o ought_v be_v unsound_a in_o this_o deal_n with_o prince_n i_o be_o willing_a to_o hear_v of_o it_o discusser_n another_o while_n when_o prince_n cross_a mr._n cotton_v judgement_n and_o practise_v than_o it_o matter_n not_o what_o the_o profession_n and_o practice_n of_o prince_n be_v for_o say_v he_o their_o profession_n and_o practice_n be_v no_o rule_n to_o conscience_n defender_n if_o prince_n swerve_v from_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o word_n either_o in_o profession_n or_o practice_v their_o own_o profession_n or_o practice_n be_v no_o rule_n either_o to_o themselves_o or_o other_o prince_n ought_v not_o to_o rule_v the_o word_n but_o be_v to_o be_v rule_v by_o it_o but_o see_v the_o notorious_a calumny_n of_o the_o discusser_n so_o represent_v mr_n cotton_n deal_v with_o prince_n as_o if_o he_o make_v his_o own_o judgement_n and_o practice_v the_o rule_n of_o the_o proceed_n of_o prince_n man_n who_o 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forth_o other_o error_n though_o not_o fundamental_o subvert_v religion_n yet_o fundamental_o subvert_v church-order_n and_o civil_a order_n and_o that_o in_o a_o turbulent_a and_o factious_a manner_n for_o in_o these_o case_n only_o we_o follow_v magistrate_n to_o punish_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n discusser_n and_o last_o be_v not_o this_o to_o make_v magistrate_n but_o step_n and_o stirrup_n for_o themselves_o to_o ascend_v and_o mount_n into_o their_o rich_a and_o honourable_a seat_n and_o saddle_n i_o mean_v great_a and_o settle_a maintenance_n which_o neither_o the_o lord_n jesus_n nor_o any_o of_o his_o first_o messenger_n the_o true_a pattern_n do_v ever_o know_v defender_n how_o this_o power_n ascribe_v to_o magistrate_n not_o by_o i_o but_o by_o the_o body_n almost_o of_o all_o faithful_a minister_n yea_o by_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n themselves_o shall_v make_v magistrate_n stair_n and_o stirrup_n for_o ourselves_o to_o mount_v up_o so_o high_a let_v he_o that_o can_v discern_v it_o make_v it_o appear_v to_o allow_v they_o power_n over_o ourselves_o in_o case_n of_o heretical_a delinquency_n be_v not_o to_o make_v they_o stair_n or_o stirrup_n of_o our_o advancement_n but_o sword_n and_o staff_n if_o need_v be_v for_o our_o punishment_n beside_o i_o wonder_v what_o fancy_n come_v into_o the_o discusser_n mind_n to_o dream_v of_o rich_a and_o honourable_a seat_n and_o saddle_n of_o our_o magistrate_n when_o as_o he_o need_v not_o beignorant_a how_o far_o short_a they_o themselves_o fall_v of_o rich_a and_o honourable_a seat_n and_o saddle_n which_o himself_o interprete_v great_a and_o settle_a maintenance_n last_o i_o suppose_v he_o be_v not_o ignorant_a that_o myself_o against_o who_o he_o be_v please_v by_o name_n to_o write_v this_o invective_n live_v not_o upon_o great_a and_o settle_a maintenance_n but_o according_a to_o that_o which_o he_o call_v the_o true_a pattern_n of_o the_o first_o messenger_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n chap._n 57_o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 60._o discusser_n in_o the_o second_o place_n the_o answerer_n say_v that_o prince_n out_o of_o state-policy_n do_v sometime_o tolerate_v what_o suit_v not_o with_o christianity_n and_o out_o of_o state-necessity_n tolerate_v as_o david_n do_v joab_n against_o their_o will_n but_o then_o the_o answerer_n must_v acknowledge_v with_o i_o that_o there_o be_v a_o necessity_n sometime_o of_o state-toleration_n as_o in_o the_o case_n of_o joab_n and_o so_o his_o former_a affirmation_n general_o lay_v down_o viz_o that_o it_o be_v evil_a to_o tolerate_v seduce_v teacher_n and_o scandalous_a life_n be_v not_o due_o weigh_v in_o the_o balance_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n and_o be_v too_o light_a defender_n i_o easy_o acknowledge_v sometime_o a_o necessity_n of_o state_n toleration_n as_o i_o have_v former_o express_v in_o chap._n 53._o especial_o in_o two_o case_n whereof_o that_o of_o joab_n be_v one_o but_o that_o will_v nothing_o impeach_v the_o truth_n of_o my_o former_a affirmation_n deliver_v in_o general_a term_n especial_o if_o it_o be_v weigh_v in_o the_o balance_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n for_o the_o holy_a writing_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n do_v express_o deliver_v the_o like_a position_n in_o like_a general_a term_n as_o moses_n say_v who_o so_o shed_v man_n blood_n by_o man_n shall_v his_o blood_n be_v shed_v this_o law_n be_v deliver_v in_o general_a term_n and_o yet_o though_o joab_n be_v a_o murderer_n he_o be_v tolerate_v to_o live_v all_o the_o reign_n of_o david_n yet_o i_o hope_v the_o discusser_n will_v not_o say_v that_o general_a law_n of_o moses_n be_v not_o due_o weigh_v in_o the_o balance_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n and_o be_v too_o light_a discusser_n i_o affirm_v second_o that_o that_o state-policy_n and_o state-necessity_n which_o permit_v conscience_n of_o man_n will_v be_v find_v to_o agree_v most_o punctual_o with_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o best_a politition_n that_o ever_o the_o world_n see_v the_o lord_n jesus_n himself_o who_o command_v the_o permit_v of_o the_o tare_n to_o wit_n antichristian_o or_o false_a christian_n with_o true_a christian_n as_o i_o have_v discourse_v above_o defender_n that_o discourse_n have_v be_v examine_v above_o and_o find_v too_o light_a so_o far_o as_o it_o cross_v the_o truth_n return_v in_o answer_n to_o the_o letter_n to_o permit_v some_o antichristian_o or_o false_a christian_n the_o answer_n to_o the_o letter_n do_v allow_v unless_o they_o maintain_v fundamental_a heresy_n against_o the_o foundation_n of_o religion_n and_o that_o obstinate_o after_o conviction_n and_o do_v withal_o seduce_v other_o into_o the_o same_o apostasy_n but_o as_o for_o such_o heretic_n and_o seduce_a teacher_n i_o hope_v it_o have_v be_v clear_v they_o be_v none_o of_o those_o tare_n of_o which_o christ_n say_v let_v they_o alone_o beside_o it_o be_v a_o interpretation_n of_o christ_n word_n former_o give_v and_o not_o to_o be_v reverse_v that_o if_o by_o tare_n be_v mean_v such_o gross_a offender_n than_o the_o speech_n of_o christ_n let_v they_o alone_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o command_n in_o way_n of_o a_o ordinance_n but_o a_o word_n of_o permission_n and_o prediction_n what_o will_v be_v in_o way_n of_o providence_n like_o that_o in_o luk._n 22.36_o he_o that_o have_v no_o sword_n let_v he_o sell_v his_o garment_n and_o buy_v a_o sword_n it_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o command_n or_o direction_n what_o the_o disciple_n shall_v do_v but_o a_o word_n of_o prediction_n what_o time_n of_o trial_n they_o shall_v meet_v withal_o chap._n 58._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 61._o discusser_n his_o three_o answer_n be_v this_o for_o those_o three_o prince_n name_v by_o you_o who_o tolerate_v false_a religion_n we_o can_v name_v more_o and_o great_a who_o have_v not_o tolerate_v heretic_n and_o schismatic_n notwithstanding_o their_o pretence_n of_o conscience_n and_o arrogate_a the_o crown_n of_o martyrdom_n to_o their_o suffering_n constantine_n the_o great_a at_o the_o
religion_n may_v not_o be_v propagate_v by_o the_o civil_a sword_n unto_o which_o i_o reply_v what_o mean_v then_o this_o passage_n in_o his_o first_o answer_n to_o the_o former_a speech_n of_o the_o king_n viz._n we_o acknowledge_v that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v constrain_v to_o believe_v or_o profess_v the_o true_a religion_n till_o he_o be_v convince_v in_o judgement_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o defender_n if_o it_o be_v observe_v my_o agreement_n with_o hilary_n then_o let_v it_o be_v observe_v that_o the_o discusser_v in_o whet_v the_o word_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n against_o we_o lay_v a_o false_a charge_n upon_o we_o as_o if_o we_o maintain_v such_o persecution_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n as_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o ancient_a writer_n of_o who_o hilary_n be_v name_v for_o one_o and_o for_o the_o first_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o discussion_n it_o be_v find_v that_o we_o agree_v with_o he_o in_o that_o answer_n to_o the_o speech_n of_o the_o king_n when_o 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1._o that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n who_o be_v to_o constrain_v must_v judge_v of_o all_o the_o conscience_n of_o their_o subject_n whether_o they_o be_v convince_v or_o no._n 2._o that_o when_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n discern_v that_o his_o subject_n conscience_n be_v convince_v than_o he_o may_v constrain_v they_o vi_o &_o armis_fw-la hostile_o and_o according_o who_o know_v not_o what_o constraint_n lie_v upon_o all_o conscience_n in_o old_a and_o new-england_n to_o come_v to_o church_n and_o to_o pay_v church-duty_n which_o be_v upon_o the_o point_n though_o with_o a_o sword_n of_o a_o fine_a gilt_n and_o trim_a in_o new-england_n nothing_o else_o but_o that_o which_o he_o confess_v hilary_n say_v shall_v not_o be_v do_v to_o wit_n a_o propagation_n of_o religion_n by_o the_o sword_n defender_n neither_o of_o both_o these_o thing_n be_v employ_v in_o that_o answer_n not_o the_o first_o that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n must_v then_o judge_v of_o all_o of_o the_o conscience_n of_o their_o subject_n whether_o they_o be_v convince_v or_o no_o for_o it_o impli_v no_o more_o than_o that_o he_o be_v not_o to_o constrain_v they_o till_o he_o see_v they_o be_v convince_v if_o he_o never_o see_v they_o convince_v he_o be_v to_o see_v they_o be_v never_o constrain_v but_o how_o far_o the_o magistrate_n may_v discern_v and_o judge_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n have_v be_v speak_v above_o nor_o the_o second_o for_o the_o constraint_n i_o speak_v of_o be_v not_o by_o positive_a mean_n vi_fw-la &_o armis_fw-la but_o negative_a withhold_v such_o trust_n and_o employment_n from_o such_o as_o he_o see_v be_v not_o faithful_a and_o trusty_a to_o their_o god_n of_o who_o truth_n they_o be_v convince_v and_o yet_o withhold_v it_o in_o unrighteousness_n i_o know_v no_o constraint_n at_o all_o that_o lie_v upon_o the_o conscience_n of_o any_o in_o new-england_n to_o come_v to_o church_n neither_o do_v i_o know_v that_o any_o scruple_n lie_v upon_o any_o conscience_n in_o new-england_n that_o withhold_v any_o from_o hear_v the_o word_n among_o we_o but_o least_o of_o all_o do_v i_o know_v that_o any_o be_v constrain_v to_o pay_v church-duty_n in_o new-england_n sure_o i_o be_o none_o in_o our_o own_o town_n neither_o church-member_n nor_o other_o be_v constrain_v to_o pay_v any_o church-duty_n at_o all_o what_o they_o pay_v they_o give_v voluntary_o each_o one_o with_o his_o own_o hand_n without_o any_o constraint_n at_o all_o but_o their_o own_o will_n as_o the_o lord_n direct_v they_o discusser_n again_o although_o he_o confess_v that_o propagation_n of_o religion_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v by_o the_o sword_n yet_o he_o maintain_v the_o use_n of_o the_o sword_n when_o person_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o civil_a state_n for_o that_o be_v employ_v shall_v blaspheme_v the_o true_a god_n and_o the_o true_a religion_n and_o also_o seduce_v other_o to_o damnable_a heresy_n and_o idolatry_n defender_n true_a but_o this_o be_v not_o the_o propagation_n 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