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A27174 Take heed of both extremes, or, Plain and useful cautions against popery and presbytery by way of dialogue : in two parts / by Luke de Beaulieu. Beaulieu, Luke, 1644 or 5-1723. 1675 (1675) Wing B1578; ESTC R7658 78,624 146

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