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from_o the_o advice_n of_o the_o assembly_n to_o the_o parliament_n touch_v church_n government_n cl._n cop_z say_v now_o cl._n cop_z several_a association_n association_n see_v form_n of_o church-government_n pag._n 30._o 30._o see_v sr_n francis_n bacon_n matth._n 28._o ver_fw-la 18._o col._n 4._o 17._o 2_o chr._n 26._o 18._o vide_fw-la pag._n 130._o of_o their_o last_o book_n publish_v by_o dr_n bernard_n the_o imputation_n of_o perjury_n take_v off_o off_o see_v their_o jus_o divinum_fw-la ministerij_fw-la evangelici_fw-la part_n 2._o pag._n 143_o 144._o 2_o part_z institut_n fol._n 157_o 158._o 158._o see_v sect._n 9_o towards_o the_o end_n the_o claim_n for_o the_o presbyterian_a government_n to_o the_o civil_a sanction_n make_v good_a cl._n cop_z censurable_a cl._n cop_z for_o this_o all_o party_n hiss_v you_o and_o laugh_v you_o to_o scorn_v have_v as_o full_a etc._n etc._n object_n answ_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 3._o sect._n 16._o in_o fine_a cl._n cop_z wander_v cl._n cop_z he_o be_v a_o person_n of_o know_a eminency_n in_o his_o day_n cl._n cop_z the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o tim._n 3._o 15._o cant._n 1._o 8._o bishop_n laud_n preface_n against_o usher_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chap._n 20._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chap._n 17._o â—_o cl._n cop_z cap._n 9_o 20._o cap._n 19_o sect._n 5._o cl._n cop_z this_o mannâ—_n wrest_v the_o jesuit_n the_o scripture_n the_o sole_a supreme_a judge_n of_o all_o matter_n in_o religion_n council_n and_o father_n not_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o scripture_n interpretation_n interpretation_n see_v the_o provincial_a assembly_n of_o london_n in_o their_o jus_fw-la divinum_fw-la ministerij_fw-la evangelici_fw-la part_n 2._o pag._n 107._o see_v also_o mr._n baxter_n in_o his_o desence_n of_o the_o worcesteshire_n agreement_n pag._n 61_o 62._o 62._o see_v his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o epistle_n to_o titus_n titus_n part_n 2._o cap_n 4._o 4._o see_v quest_n 2._o p._n 29._o cl._n cop_z cap_n 2._o civil_a penalty_n do_v not_o free_a from_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n see_v the_o action_n statute_n fardin_n pulton_n see_v câ—_n on_o of_o tâ—_n tute_n â—â—_o dinanaton_n cl._n cop_z be_v see_v sâ—_n towards_o te_fw-la rendâ—_n rendâ—_n the_o of_o irela_n bishop_n colne_v the_o of_o carli_n carli_n censure_n to_o which_o only_o the_o relative_n they_o in_o the_o 5_o order_n be_v limit_v apage_z cl._n cop_z cl._n cop_z cop_z ha_o ha_o hae_o hae_o the_o same_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d viz._n nineveh_n not_o calah_o be_v a_o great_a city_n where_o the_o relative_n etc._n etc._n etc._n see_v part_n 1._o page_n 51_o 52._o