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A13295 A reply to a pretended Christian plea for the anti-Chistian [sic] Church of Rome: published by Mr. Francis Iohnson a⁰. 1617 Wherin the weakness of the sayd plea is manifested, and arguments alleaged for the Church of Rome, and baptisme therein, are refuted; by Henry Ainsworth. Anno 1618. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1620 (1620) STC 236; ESTC S122155 171,683 191

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answer_v 7._o not_o rome_n but_o the_o church_n and_o not_o this_o church_n but_o that_o which_o then_o be_v near_o the_o apostle_n time_n which_o cleave_v to_o the_o truth_n and_o simplicity_n of_o christ._n the_o disputer_n will_v deceive_v ex_fw-la elenchi_fw-la ignoratione_n into_o the_o same_o fall_n acie_n do_v my_o opposite_a often_o run_v in_o his_o dispute_n against_o i_o and_o be_v therefore_o reprove_v by_o mr._n junius_n himself_o to_o the_o objection_n of_o god_n call_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n bare_o affirm_v without_o proof_n i_o show_v from_o 2._o thes._n 2._o that_o the_o man_n of_o sin_v sit_v there_o call_v all_o to_o worship_v he_o etc._n etc._n and_o from_o rev._n 18._o 4._o that_o god_n call_v out_o of_o she_o such_o as_o shall_v be_v save_v and_o from_o rev._n 9_o that_o their_o bishop_n the_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o call_v be_v fall_v from_o heaven_n and_o have_v the_o key_n of_o the_o bottomless_a pit_n etc._n etc._n which_o mr._n junius_n himself_o 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between_o the_o papacy_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o be_v the_o pastor_n and_o the_o flock_n of_o that_o church_n be_v of_o no_o weight_n to_o prove_v the_o difference_n pretend_v unless_o they_o be_v of_o divers_a faith_n and_o religion_n but_o when_o the_o priest_n teach_v lie_n idolatry_n and_o heresy_n and_o the_o people_n believe_v worship_n and_o obey_v they_o as_o they_o do_v in_o rome_n they_o both_o perish_v together_o as_o the_o scripture_n witness_v 2._o thess._n 2._o rev._n 14._o 9_o 10._o 11._o touch_v the_o order_n or_o rank_n of_o apostate_n to_o omit_v his_o trifle_n about_o his_o own_o translation_n of_o the_o word_n he_o 190._o say_v mr._n junius_n speak_v this_o not_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o only_o of_o the_o papal_a hierarchy_n be_v it_o so_o but_o what_o proof_n be_v bring_v for_o that_o he_o say_v it_o be_v know_v to_o all_o that_o have_v understanding_n of_o their_o estate_n that_o the_o church_n and_o people_n of_o rome_n be_v apostate_n from_o the_o faith_n and_o service_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v their_o priest_n and_o hierarchy_n what_o shall_v i_o need_v to_o bring_v proof_n mr._n johnson_n himself_o here_o confess_v and_o 120._o pray_v all_o to_o take_v knowledge_n of_o it_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v fall_v into_o most_o sinful_a and_o deep_a defection_n and_o apostasy_n and_o so_o be_v a_o notorious_a harlot_n and_o idolatress_n if_o mr._n junius_n say_v otherweise_v and_o will_v have_v the_o apostasy_n to_o be_v in_o the_o hierarchy_n only_o not_o in_o the_o church_n let_v they_o first_o agree_v between_o themselves_o before_o they_o trouble_v other_o with_o their_o contrary_a plea_n or_o let_v a_o three_o be_v umpire_n beeween_v they_o mr._n cartwright_n who_o in_o his_o second_o reply_n to_o d._n whitgift_n pag._n 245._o say_v i_o will_v glad_o learn_v where_o the_o lord_n have_v will_v we_o so_o to_o cast_v away_o the_o use_n of_o our_o judgement_n that_o when_o man_n make_v open_a profession_n 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to_o prove_v the_o thing_n which_o we_o hold_v and_o do_v most_o injurious_o intimate_v against_o we_o as_o if_o we_o think_v the_o contrary_n shall_v we_o be_v so_o wicked_a as_o to_o imagine_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n or_o his_o creature_n to_o be_v evil_a in_o themselves_o farr_n be_v it_o from_o we_o nay_o we_o say_v that_o the_o papist_n for_o abuse_v the_o sacrament_n and_o turn_v they_o to_o lie_n and_o idol_n shall_v have_v the_o great_a judgement_n not_o for_o abuse_v bread_n and_o wine_n and_o water_n as_o they_o be_v creature_n only_o but_o for_o abuse_v they_o as_o they_o be_v sacramental_a sign_n ordain_v of_o christ_n which_o make_v their_o profanation_n more_o horrible_a their_o damnation_n more_o just_a but_o this_o be_v a_o practice_n of_o many_o that_o plead_v for_o error_n to_o leave_v the_o argument_n which_o do_v convince_v they_o and_o to_o propone_v new_a question_n and_o reason_n of_o their_o own_o that_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o say_v something_o by_o 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and_o forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n in_o christ_n the_o scripture_n teach_v they_o can_v not_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o of_o the_o table_n of_o divils_n 1._o cor._n 10_o 21._o in_o particular_a for_o their_o circumcision_n i_o prove_v it_o thus_o 68_o true_a circumcision_n be_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o say_v rom._n 4._o 11._o jsrael_n in_o their_o apostasy_n be_v fall_v from_o the_o faith_n hos._n 11._o 12._o they_o be_v without_o the_o true_a god_n without_o priest_n to_o teach_v &_o without_o law_n 2._o chron._n 15._o 3._o and_o how_o then_o can_v they_o have_v the_o true_a circumcision_n the_o seal_n of_o
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which_o it_o be_v not_o pretend_v to_o give_v grace_n etc._n etc._n which_o it_o do_v not_o but_o the_o baptism_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v god_n ordinance_n have_v and_o plant_v there_o by_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n these_o be_v the_o error_n and_o abuse_n of_o man_n about_o it_o not_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o baptism_n itself_o otherweise_v all_o that_o have_v receive_v it_o aught_o to_o renounce_v it_o utter_o and_o to_o get_v a_o other_o outward_a baptism_n etc._n etc._n answ._n this_o also_o be_v before_o object_v and_o answer_v and_o it_o be_v a_o world_n to_o see_v how_o he_o weary_v his_o reader_n with_o repeat_v worthless_a reason_n sacrifice_v among_o the_o heathen_n i_o have_v before_o prove_v be_v god_n ordinance_n so_o be_v the_o lord_n supper_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n so_o be_v excommunication_n so_o be_v the_o ministry_n of_o bishop_n etc._n etc._n these_o have_v be_v continue_v in_o rome_n with_o their_o baptism_n may_v we_o not_o say_v therefore_o the_o mass_n be_v a_o idol_n or_o that_o the_o bishop_n the_o pope_n of_o rome_n now_o be_v a_o idol_n and_o antichrist_n of_o our_o get_v a_o other_o baptism_n which_o be_v the_o usual_a foot_n and_o base_a of_o his_o argument_n we_o have_v before_o speak_v that_o which_o he_o can_v not_o take_v away_o obj._n will_n these_o man_n say_v that_o we_o can_v without_o sin_n retain_v any_o thing_n and_o not_o utter_o reject_v it_o that_o stand_v up_o in_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n precious_a blood_n etc._n etc._n ans._n we_o can_v indeed_o without_o sin_v retain_v it_o while_o so_o it_o stand_v neither_o do_v we_o so_o reteyn_v it_o far_o be_v it_o from_o we_o neither_o may_v the_o gentile_n reteyn_fw-mi the_o lie_n which_o they_o have_v make_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n rom._n 1._o 25._o but_o when_o the_o lie_n be_v do_z away_o and_o god_n restore_v to_o they_o his_o former_a truth_n that_o they_o be_v to_o reteyn_fw-mi the_o idolatrous_a israelite_n if_o they_o have_v set_v up_o their_o own_o blood_n of_o circumcision_n in_o place_n of_o christ_n blood_n may_v not_o without_o sin_v have_v retain_v it_o while_o so_o it_o stand_v yet_o repent_v of_o their_o idolatry_n they_o may_v keep_v the_o outward_a sign_n without_o repeat_v it_o even_o so_o we_o in_o this_o case_n obj._n error_n and_o abuse_n of_o man_n may_v hurt_v themselves_o but_o can_v change_v the_o nature_n of_o god_n ordinance_n in_o itself_o answ._n not_o in_o itself_o i_o grant_v consider_v without_o their_o abuse_n but_o together_o with_o their_o abuse_n god_n ordinance_n of_o sacrifice_n incense_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o abomination_n to_o he_o prov._n 15._o 8._o esa._n 1._o 13._o so_o baptism_n and_o the_o supper_n now_o in_o rome_n be_v abomination_n to_o the_o lord_n obj._n man_n unbelief_n can_v make_v the_o faith_n of_o god_n of_o none_o effect_n god_n be_v true_a though_o every_o man_n be_v a_o liar_n rom._n 3._o 3._o 4._o ans._n what_o may_v we_o think_v will_v he_o conclude_v from_o this_o scripture_n to_o cite_v a_o place_n and_o leave_v it_o doubtful_a what_o he_o infer_v be_v to_o deceive_v the_o reader_n if_o he_o intend_v according_a to_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n of_o grace_n and_o of_o salvation_n unto_o man_n whether_o they_o believe_v or_o do_v not_o believe_v it_o be_v a_o notable_a error_n overthrow_v the_o gospel_n and_o establish_v the_o popish_a heresy_n of_o grace_n ex_fw-la opere_fw-la operato_fw-la by_o the_o work_n doen._n the_o scripture_n teach_v touch_v god_n word_n and_o promise_n that_o it_o profit_v not_o they_o that_o hear_v it_o if_o it_o be_v not_o mix_v with_o faith_n in_o they_o heb._n 4._o 2._o if_o man_n believe_v not_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v establish_v esai_n 7._o 9_o but_o shall_v be_v damn_v mark_n 16._o 16._o they_o shall_v not_o see_v life_n but_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n abide_v on_o they_o joh._n 3._o 36._o neither_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o god_n by_o man_n unbeleef_n make_v without_o effect_n for_o his_o truth_n and_o faithfulness_n be_v confirm_v as_o well_o in_o damn_v unrepentant_a &_o unbelieved_a sinner_n as_o in_o save_v those_o that_o repent_v and_o believe_v when_o the_o righteous_a turn_v from_o his_o righteousness_n and_o commit_v iniquity_n he_o shall_v die_v in_o his_o iniquity_n and_o yet_o the_o way_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v equal_a as_o say_v the_o prophet_n ezek._n 18._o 24._o 25._o 26._o again_o as_o all_o man_n natural_o be_v liar_n and_o do_v fail_v and_o break_v covenant_n on_o their_o part_n by_o sin_v which_o god_n never_o do_v so_o if_o they_o continue_v in_o sin_v and_o turn_v not_o to_o the_o lord_n by_o repentance_n and_o faith_n they_o all_o perish_v luk._n 13._o 3._o 5._o rom._n 8._o 6._o 10._o 1._o cor._n 6._o 9_o 10._o judas_n v._n 5._o but_o let_v man_n repent_v and_o turn_v from_o their_o transgression_n so_o iniquity_n shall_v not_o be_v their_o ruin_n ezek._n 18._o 30._o otherweise_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o after_o man_n be_v enter_v into_o covenant_n with_o god_n &_o be_v baptize_v though_o they_o fall_v from_o christ_n to_o antichrist_n as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v do_z though_o they_o fall_v to_o mahomet_n as_o many_o east_n church_n have_v do_z tho_o they_o turn_v to_o be_v jew_n or_o pagan_n and_o so_o die_v yet_o they_o shall_v be_v save_v for_o their_o unbeleef_n can_v make_v the_o faith_n of_o god_n of_o none_o effect_n but_o so_o to_o expound_v this_o scripture_n rom._n 3._o be_v to_o turn_v judgement_n into_o wormwood_n unto_o the_o destruction_n of_o man_n soul_n and_o if_o my_o opposite_a will_v not_o gather_v some_o such_o thing_n from_o it_o what_o will_v it_o help_v his_o plea_n for_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o be_v the_o whore_n of_o babylon_n who_o god_n have_v devote_v unto_o destruction_n except_o they_o repent_v rev._n 17._o &_o 18._o chap._n obj._n the_o jew_n in_o christ_n time_n and_o before_o hold_v 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