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doâ—â—_n full_o 〈◊〉_d unto_o emphasis_n 53_o emphasis_n isa_n 53_o he_o sustain_v our_o very_a sorrow_n or_o our_o sorrow_n themselves_o and_o this_o we_o conclude_v the_o rather_o because_o the_o sense_n of_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n 2d_o sorrow_n heb._n 2d_o only_o be_v the_o ransom_n ordain_v and_o consecrate_v by_o god_n in_o christ_n that_o by_o they_o his_o suffering_n shall_v be_v accomplish_v &_o our_o sin_n satisfy_v whatsoever_o therefore_o in_o this_o life_n may_v be_v painful_a &_o be_v due_a to_o mankind_n general_o for_o sin_n &_o in_o it_o own_o nature_n be_v no_o sin_n that_o christ_n suffer_v whole_o and_o alltogeather_o for_o we_o even_o the_o same_o which_o else_o we_o shall_v which_o be_v your_o own_o 28_n own_o pa._n 28_n plain_a confession_n also_o i_o grant_v indeed_o it_o utter_o impossible_a that_o he_o who_o be_v uncapable_a of_o sin_n yea_o god_n himself_o shall_v be_v real_o separate_v from_o god_n or_o hate_v or_o weaken_v in_o faith_n or_o punish_v external_o 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my_o text_n of_o scripture_n be_v justify_v that_o â—â—_o that_o 2._o tim._n â—â—_o christ_n give_v himself_o the_o price_n of_o redemption_n for_o we_o which_o we_o else_o shall_v have_v pay_v where_o 261._o where_o pa._n 261._o you_o except_v against_o this_o text_n in_o timoth_n that_o i_o say_v the_o scripture_n speak_v here_o after_o the_o common_a use_n &_o custom_n of_o redeem_n captives_z take_v in_o war_n when_o a_o captive_a be_v not_o able_a some_o other_o friend_n pay_v antilytron_n the_o same_o price_n for_o the_o captive_a which_o else_o he_o shall_v you_o ask_v who_o tell_v i_o that_o the_o scripture_n speak_v after_o the_o common_a use_n of_o enemy_n i_o answer_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o word_n antilytron_n a_o ransom_n import_v so_o much_o which_o be_v proper_o use_v in_o such_o case_n
but_o neither_o shame_n nor_o death_n to_o the_o holy_a martyr_n be_v d_o account_v by_o god_n nor_o by_o his_o servant_n as_o proper_a and_o true_a curse_n 50._o before_o pag._n 9_o 50._o but_o the_o holy_a man_n be_v in_o truth_n most_o glorious_a and_o bless_a in_o they_o again_o the_o saint_n and_o martyr_n can_v not_o be_v proper_o curse_v and_o proper_o bless_v too_o in_o any_o measure_n neither_o their_o soul_n bless_v unless_o their_o body_n be_v bless_v also_o &_o free_a from_o the_o true_a curse_n although_o you_o seem_v to_o deny_v this_o point_n which_o strange_a and_o uncouth_a assertion_n both_o here_o and_o in_o many_o place_n mo_z you_o do_v at_o lest_o insinuat_fw-la that_o be_v that_o the_o godly_a in_o their_o soul_n be_v bless_v but_o in_o their_o body_n they_o still_o retain_v god_n true_a &_o proper_a curse_n till_o the_o resurrection_n which_o i_o leave_v to_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o godly_a you_o say_v we_o must_v call_v thing_n by_o those_o name_n which_o god_n first_o allot_v they_o that_o i_o deny_v if_o god_n since_o evident_o have_v alter_v they_o and_o dispose_v of_o they_o otherwise_o but_o he_o have_v so_o do_v in_o this_o case_n the_o affliction_n and_o death_n which_o original_o and_o natural_o be_v punishment_n for_o sin_n and_o be_v so_o still_o to_o the_o wicked_a the_o same_o to_o the_o godly_a as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v be_v since_o change_v &_o now_o be_v proper_o chastisement_n of_o sin_n and_o not_o punishment_n nor_o curse_n only_o christ_n have_v suffer_v the_o whole_a proper_a punishment_n and_o true_a curse_n or_o vengeance_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o therefore_o on_o we_o it_o be_v not_o it_o can_v not_o be_v lay_v again_o in_o any_o part_n thereof_o you_o 96._o you_o pag._n 96._o avouch_v some_o that_o deny_v christ_n to_o have_v be_v make_v a_o curse_n or_o sin_n but_o you_o must_v remember_v 92._o remember_v pag._n 92._o your_o own_o place_n of_o austin_n maledictum_fw-la est_fw-la omne_fw-la 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such_o therefore_o be_v christ_n curse_n which_o he_o suâ—layned_v to_o conclude_v then_o his_o affliction_n and_o death_n be_v neither_o wage_n nor_o chastisement_n nor_o curse_n nor_o consequent_a of_o any_o sin_n in_o he_o yet_o as_o god_n make_v he_o sin_n for_o we_o so_o he_o true_o proper_o and_o in_o very_a deed_n lay_v the_o pain_n of_o his_o curse_n upon_o his_o body_n and_o soul_n which_o curse_n of_o god_n upon_o christ_n as_o you_o 26_o you_o pag_n 26_o say_v true_o be_v not_o in_o word_n but_o in_o deed_n wherefore_o my_o word_n 2d_o word_n pag._n 2d_o you_o open_o pervert_v affirm_v that_o i_o say_v death_n here_o that_o be_v christ_n death_n note_v galat._n 3.13_o â—ay_n in_o no_o sort_n be_v call_v a_o curse_n when_o i_o express_o even_o there_o and_o every_o where_o do_v say_v the_o contrary_n 263._o pag._n 263._o but_o a_o your_o great_a exception_n be_v that_o this_o curse_v lay_v on_o christ_n can_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o whole_a curse_n of_o god_n or_o of_o the_o law_n 264._o pag._n 264._o and_o therefore_o b_o you_o spare_v i_o not_o for_o c_o saying_n that_o paul_n here_o in_o his_o application_n out_o of_o moses_n name_v a_o part_n of_o the_o just_a curse_n of_o the_o law_n for_o sin_n 40._o treat_n 1._o pag._n 40._o thereby_o mean_v and_o infer_v to_o his_o purpose_n the_o whole_a where_o you_o must_v be_v so_o good_a as_o to_o understand_v i_o by_o my_o own_o word_n in_o other_o place_n 290._o pag_n 290._o for_o thus_o do_v you_o know_v e_o i_o limit_v my_o speech_n else_o where_o as_o touch_v the_o vehemency_n of_o pain_n christ_n be_v as_o sharp_o touch_v as_o the_o very_a reprobat_n 81._o treat_n 1._o pag_n 81._o and_o christ_n suffering_n be_v equal_a to_o the_o very_a hellish_a torment_n in_o vehemency_n of_o pain_n and_o sharpness_n again_o f_o this_o price_n equal_o in_o justice_n must_v be_v keep_v so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v possible_a 26._o pag._n 26._o and_o 37._o and_o pag._n 37._o because_o there_o be_v no_o impossibility_n no_o necessity_n no_o reason_n but_o he_o may_v feel_v the_o full_a smart_n of_o our_o sin_n as_o there_o be_v that_o he_o shall_v not_o feel_v the_o full_a continuance_n thereof_o and_o see_v god_n strict_a justice_n require_v it_o to_o be_v so_o therefore_o it_o be_v so_o he_o suffer_v all_o the_o smart_n but_o not_o all_o the_o continuance_n of_o our_o punishment_n 13_o â—_o also_o pa._n 23._o heeâ—e_n pa._n 13_o thus_o then_o plain_o h_o i_o signify_v i_o those_o 3_o limitation_n which_o now_o be_v express_v that_o christ_n suffer_v our_o whole_a curse_n only_o so_o far_o as_o the_o possibility_n of_o thing_n can_v admit_v wherein_o nothing_o be_v dispense_v nor_o pardon_v to_o he_o for_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v which_o doctrine_n how_o unworthy_a it_o be_v of_o your_o strange_a contempt_n and_o outcry_n against_o i_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o godly_a wise_a to_o consider_v catechis_n nowell_n catechis_n only_o mark_v if_o our_o k_n public_a doctrine_n be_v not_o the_o same_o vltima_fw-la omne_fw-la pati_fw-la voluir_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la qui_fw-la ultima_fw-la omne_fw-la commeriti_fw-la sumus_fw-la diram_fw-la execrationem_fw-la suscepit_fw-la contumelias_fw-la etiam_fw-la omnes_fw-la omne_fw-la probra_fw-la atque_fw-la supplicia_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o you_o will_v say_v thus_o we_o make_v it_o not_o the_o whole_a curse_n of_o the_o law_n yes_o we_o call_v it_o right_o the_o whole_a curse_n for_o as_o much_o as_o christ_n suffer_v it_o in_o his_o whole_a manhood_n 52_o see_v before_o pag_n 8._o 1._o the._n 5.28_o â—_o pa._n 48._o 52_o even_o in_o l_o all_o the_o power_n of_o his_o m_o spirit_n &_o soul_n &_o body_n where_o that_o curse_n in_o deutero_fw-la be_v a_o part_n be_v suffer_v only_o in_o the_o body_n quicken_v by_o the_o soul_n also_o in_o other_o respect_n this_o suffering_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v well_o call_v the_o whole_a curse_n or_o punishment_n of_o sin_n 280_o pag._n 11_o 12._o â—nâ—_n 16.17_o pa._n 27â—_n 280_o as_o n_o before_o be_v declare_v after_o this_o o_o you_o think_v it_o strange_a that_o i_o say_v christ_n suffer_v &_o die_v just_o and_o be_v hang_v on_o the_o tree_n by_o the_o just_a sentence_n of_o the_o law_n &_o that_o so_o he_o be_v by_o imputation_n of_o our_o state_n and_o condition_n unto_o he_o sinful_a 51.11_o 〈◊〉_d before_o 〈◊〉_d 51.11_o defile_v hateful_a and_o accurse_a all_o the_o which_o i_o avouch_v because_o he_o undertake_v by_o god_n ordinance_n as_o our_o surety_n to_o receive_v our_o whole_a condemnation_n upon_o himself_o so_o far_o as_o his_o own_o nature_n and_o condition_n can_v possible_o admit_v just_o christ_n suffeâ—_n just_o to_o the_o end_n that_o he_o may_v whole_o acquit_v us._n in_o regard_n whereof_o i_o ask_v be_v it_o wrong_n for_o the_o law_n to_o lay_v the_o penalty_n on_o the_o surety_n when_o the_o debtor_n can_v not_o discharge_v it_o against_o this_o my_o assertion_n you_o say_v 27â—_n say_v pag._n 27â—_n by_o no_o sentence_n of_o the_o law_n he_o hang_v on_o a_o tree_n and_o a_o reason_n you_o give_v 273_o give_v pag._n 273_o because_o to_o be_v hang_v on_o a_o tree_n be_v no_o necessary_a part_n of_o the_o general_a curse_n of_o god_n upon_o all_o sinner_n i_o answer_v to_o die_v for_o sin_n be_v a_o necessary_a part_n of_o the_o general_a curse_n upon_o all_o sinner_n what_o say_v you_o then_o to_o his_o death_n do_v he_o die_v just_o sure_o if_o christ_n die_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n justice_n than_o he_o die_v just_o if_o he_o die_v not_o by_o god_n justice_n than_o woe_n and_o thrice_o wo_n to_o us._n for_o it_o can_v be_v but_o god_n justice_n 66._o justice_n luc._n 16.1_o deut._n 10.1_o rom._n 8.32_o see_v before_o pag._n 66._o must_v
lâ—sse_o to_o make_v his_o son_n or_o his_o son_n to_o make_v himself_o any_o such_o surety_n or_o redeemer_n of_o rebel_n as_o christ_n be_v make_v and_o may_v be_v make_v of_o god_n for_o us._n so_o that_o also_o where_o you_o will_v have_v it_o to_o serve_v that_o we_o may_v perceive_v by_o this_o how_o christ_n be_v not_o defile_v nor_o hateful_a nor_o guilty_a by_o imputation_n of_o our_o treason_n it_o be_v evident_o to_o weak_a for_o you_o have_v not_o show_v neither_o can_v show_v that_o this_o king_n son_n be_v or_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v such_o a_o surety_n &_o redeemer_n as_o christ_n be_v that_o be_v unto_o bodily_a death_n therefore_o this_o similitude_n can_v be_v good_a we_o have_v other_o manner_n of_o warrant_n that_o christ_n be_v by_o imputation_n make_v sin_n for_o we_o and_o the_o curse_n for_o we_o and_o that_o this_o ordinance_n be_v holy_a and_o right_a and_o above_o all_o reproof_n which_o you_o can_v not_o bring_v for_o your_o king_n son_n suretyship_n nor_o 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not_o pper_o punish_v he_o thus_o you_o say_v 3â—_n say_v pag._n 3â—_n god_n do_v not_o any_o thing_n unto_o he_o and_o 32._o and_o pag._n 32._o who_o do_v crucify_v he_o i_o pray_v you_o god_n or_o the_o jew_n and_o 7â—_n and_o pag._n 7â—_n he_o be_v indeed_o condemn_v by_o man_n that_o give_v wrongful_a sentence_n of_o death_n against_o he_o but_o he_o be_v acquit_v of_o god_n and_o pag._n and_o pag._n christ_n be_v no_o more_o a_o curse_n than_o he_o be_v sin_n who_o indeed_o and_o with_o god_n be_v neither_o 21_o â—roperâ—â—â—hed_a â—â—st_n â—â—or_n 5_o 21_o but_o with_o man_n he_o be_v repute_v both_o wicked_a and_o accurse_v notwithstanding_o the_o very_a truth_n and_o god_n word_n itself_o be_v flat_a contrary_n to_o you_o for_o it_o be_v write_v ah_o have_v make_v he_o sin_n for_o we_o which_o know_v no_o sin_n that_o we_o shall_v be_v make_v the_o righteousness_n of_o god_n in_o he_o yea_o b_o he_o make_v his_o soul_n sin_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o that_o c_o the_o 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proper_o in_o themselves_o accidental_o they_o may_v be_v when_o they_o grow_v so_o strong_a that_o they_o pain_n and_o grieve_v the_o soul_n these_o 2._o late_a kind_n of_o the_o soul_n suffer_v you_o acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v in_o christ_n the_o 1._o kind_n you_o utter_o deny_v 335_o â—â—g_v 5._o 6._o 16_o 〈◊〉_d 253._o â—_o 255._o 335_o now_o i_o affirm_v that_o christ_n taste_v also_o the_o 1_o kind_n for_o how_o can_v the_o proper_a and_o principal_a humane_a suffer_v be_v not_o in_o he_o 2.10_o â—â—â—br_n 2.10_o a_o man_n make_v of_o god_n to_o *_o suffer_v for_o all_o our_o sin_n so_o this_o in_o a_o manner_n be_v the_o point_n of_o our_o controversy_n and_o very_o how_o you_o can_v deny_v the_o same_o by_o the_o scripture_n yet_o acknowledge_v withal_o a_o true_a and_o perfect_a human_a soul_n in_o christ_n i_o can_v see_v namely_o see_v just_a occasion_n hereof_o be_v give_v he_o from_o god_n as_o afterward_o shall_v further_o appear_v you_o 248._o you_o pa._n 248._o 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and_o more_o hereafter_o and_o thus_o they_o be_v in_o no_o sort_n inflict_v on_o we_o as_o very_a curse_n by_o god_n wrath_n and_o justice_n proper_o so_o call_v but_o proper_o by_o god_n holiness_n and_o love_n as_o after_o we_o shall_v further_o see_v these_o be_v the_o ordinary_a way_n of_o suffer_v for_o sin_n but_o nothing_o appertain_v to_o christ_n neither_o 3._o impuâ—â—â—_n 3_o suffer_a sin_n not_o haerent_fw-la yet_o impuâ—â—â—_n there_o be_v another_o peculiar_a and_o extraordinary_a way_n belong_v only_o to_o christ_n according_a to_o which_o christ_n suffer_v for_o sin_n distinct_a and_o great_o differ_v from_o both_o the_o former_a and_o yet_o in_o some_o special_a point_n agree_v with_o both_o 1._o christ_n suffer_v for_o sin_n be_v sinless_a indeed_o differ_v how_o châ—st_a suffering_n those_o of_o thâ—_n godly_a degree_n hoâ—_n they_o differ_v as_o the_o godly_a also_o be_v sinless_a 4._o sinless_a rom._n 4._o by_o imputation_n again_o their_o suffering_n be_v 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here_o in_o this_o life_n last_o their_o torment_n though_o everlasting_a deserve_v nothing_o at_o god_n hand_n but_o christ_n though_o suffer_v but_o for_o a_o while_n deserve_v infinite_o favour_n and_o grace_n for_o they_o for_o who_o he_o suffer_v howbeit_o as_o i_o say_v the_o suffering_n of_o the_o damn_a be_v all_o one_o with_o christ_n same_o how_o the_o suffering_n of_o châ—â—â—â—_n and_o of_o thâ—â—â—_n damn_a 〈◊〉_d the_o same_o as_o touch_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o punishment_n and_o as_o touch_v the_o chief_a cause_n thereof_o first_o god_n himself_o be_v the_o proper_a and_o principal_a ordayner_n author_n and_o executor_n of_o his_o punishment_n god_n own_o hand_n do_v it_o to_o christ_n no_o less_o then_o to_o the_o damn_a sec_n christ_n have_v most_o horrible_a sin_n impute_v to_o he_o as_o the_o damn_a have_v also_o therefore_o he_o suffer_v for_o they_o from_o god_n hand_n even_o as_o the_o damn_a do_v namely_o in_o these_o point_n which_o be_v both_o possible_a and_o reasonable_a that_o be_v pain_n inflict_v immediate_o and_o proper_o in_o the_o soul_n and_o not_o only_o by_o outward_a mean_n in_o the_o body_n for_o it_o be_v most_o reasonable_a and_o possible_a that_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n shall_v have_v our_o sin_n impute_v to_o it_o yea_o principal_o to_o it_o and_o not_o to_o the_o body_n only_o even_o as_o we_o commit_v sin_n in_o our_o whole_a manhood_n but_o yet_o principal_o in_o &_o by_o our_o soul_n which_o be_v true_a that_o christ_n reasonable_a soul_n have_v sin_n impute_v principal_o to_o it_o according_a to_o that_o of_o the_o prophet_n he_o make_v his_o soul_n sin_n 53.10_o isa_n 53.10_o therefore_o his_o soul_n principal_o &_o peculiar_o do_v suffer_v for_o it_o also_o his_o soul_n by_o nature_n be_v capable_a of_o suffer_v from_o god_n very_a hand_n &_o a_o occasion_n now_o serve_v thereunto_o because_o of_o all_o our_o sin_n whole_o impute_v to_o he_o last_o god_n himself_o stand_v now_o dispose_v to_o punish_v and_o revenge_v sin_n in_o he_o so_o far_o as_o he_o be_v capable_a thereof_o therefore_o his_o punishment_n for_o that_o sin_n be_v a_o true_a proper_a &_o full_a punishment_n as_o they_o be_v namely_o as_o touch_v mere_a pain_n and_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n justice_n and_o vengeance_n as_o well_o on_o his_o soul_n as_o on_o his_o body_n &_o thus_o for_o the_o time_n it_o be_v even_o like_a as_o the_o suffering_n of_o the_o damn_a be_v 53.134_o â—a_n 53.134_o for_o *_o continuance_n of_o time_n in_o pain_n be_v not_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o hell_n pain_n or_o of_o god_n wrath_n 341._o pag._n 341._o nor_o yet_o to_o be_v in_o hell_n local_o as_o you_o wrong_o imagine_v but_o mere_a circumstance_n there_o of_o only_o thus_o the_o very_a nature_n of_o punishment_n for_o sin_n be_v but_o the_o feel_n of_o extreme_a pain_n from_o god_n hand_n whether_o for_o a_o time_n or_o for_o ever_o whether_o local_o in_o hell_n or_o ell_n where_o that_o neither_o alter_v nor_o lessen_v the_o present_a pain_n which_o god_n own_o infinite_a wrathful_a power_n &_o justice_n can_v inflict_v for_o satisfaction_n where_o and_o how_o it_o please_v he_o these_o pain_n then_o to_o this_o end_n and_o in_o this_o very_a manner_n inflict_v christ_n feel_v indeed_o not_o be_v in_o the_o local_a hell_n yet_o those_o be_v as_o we_o see_v the_o self_n same_o pain_n for_o their_o nature_n which_o be_v in_o hell_n 247._o â—ag_n 247._o yea_o which_o be_v *_o sharp_a in_o hell_n and_o he_o discern_v and_o receive_v they_o proper_o yea_o only_o in_o his_o very_a soul_n as_o then_o be_v manefe_a when_o his_o body_n be_v so_o bruise_v with_o sorrow_n and_o suffering_n yet_o none_o at_o all_o then_o touch_v he_o without_o that_o there_o strain_a out_o from_o he_o much_o sweat_n of_o clot_a blood_n etc._n etc._n these_o thing_n be_v thus_o now_o let_v we_o see_v wherein_o you_o agree_v with_o we_o 248._o 〈◊〉_d 248._o and_o wherein_o you_o disagree_v we_o all_o agree_v in_o term_n that_o christ_n suffer_v in_o soul_n god_n wrath_n howbeit_o touch_v the_o sense_n we_o disagree_v in_o 2._o main_a point_n qâ—â—â—_n the_o iâ—â—â—_n the_o qâ—â—â—_n i_o affirm_v that_o christ_n suffer_v god_n proper_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n you_o mean_v he_o suffer_v only_o such_o affliction_n as_o other_o godly_a man_n do_v suffer_v at_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o cruel_a world_n for_o 1â—_n for_o pa._n 1â—_n you_o think_v all_o affliction_n whatsoever_o small_a or_o great_a &_o towards_o whosoever_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n wrath._n but_o that_o be_v not_o so_o except_o in_o a_o most_o unproper_a speech_n to_o the_o godly_a their_o affliction_n both_o small_a and_o great_a be_v god_n fatherly_a and_o gracious_a chastisement_n and_o no_o effect_n of_o his_o proper_a wrath_n as_o shall_v appear_v further_o hereafter_o howbeit_o you_o must_v observe_v here_o my_o 3._o limitation_n which_o i_o set_v down_o in_o the_o beforâ—_n the_o beforâ—_n quaestion_a 1._o i_o mean_v he_o suffer_v only_o that_o proper_a wrath_n of_o god_n which_o be_v mere_o punishment_n for_o sin_n and_o no_o sin_n 2._o this_o also_o he_o suffer_v as_o touch_v the_o substance_n and_o nature_n of_o the_o pain_n not_o as_o touch_v the_o circumstance_n either_o of_o of_o place_n or_o continuance_n etc._n etc._n 3._o i_o mean_v he_o suffer_v not_o every_o particular_a punishment_n of_o sin_n nor_o that_o which_o every_o particular_a sinner_n meet_v with_o all_o but_o the_o general_n curse_v and_o punishment_n of_o god_n for_o sin_n namely_o that_o which_o belong_v in_o god_n justice_n to_o all_o man_n in_o common_a and_o generally_n who_o abide_v in_o sin_n now_o after_o these_o necessary_a limitation_n the_o main_a point_n wherein_o we_o further_o disagree_v be_v this_o i_o affirm_v that_o christ_n suffer_v all_o god_n proper_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n for_o sin_n namely_o so_o describe_v and_o limit_v as_o be_v above_o say_v i_o say_v all_o that_o which_o the_o very_a damn_a do_v suffer_v christ_n thus_o do_v suffer_v for_o we_o and_o therefore_o even_o a_o proper_a and_o immediate_a sense_n in_o his_o soul_n of_o god_n proper_a &_o most_o painful_a wrath_n his_o infinite_a and_o untolerable_a burn_a wrath._n which_o what_o tongue_n be_v it_o that_o can_v express_v or_o heart_n conceive_v yet_o christ_n humane_a soul_n be_v apt_a and_o able_a to_o feel_v it_o though_o not_o to_o sustain_v it_o a_o just_a occasion_n in_o he_o be_v offer_v thereunto_o for_o than_o he_o stand_v forth_o as_o the_o only_a and_o absolute_a ransompayer_n of_o all_o our_o debt_n and_o god_n unpartial_a justice_n dispense_v not_o without_o necessity_n yea_o where_o he_o come_v to_o punish_v he_o lay_v it_o on_o find_v sin_n unsatisfied_a as_o he_o do_v inhaerent_a in_o the_o wicked_a and_o as_o he_o do_v impute_v in_o christ_n our_o surety_n till_o he_o have_v by_o â—â—_o by_o heb_fw-mi â—â—_o suffering_n accomplish_v &_o finish_v perfect_o his_o redemption_n for_o us._n hiâ—_n your_o aâ—â—_n on_o wâ—â—â—â—gain_o saâ—â—_n christ_n â—â—red_v iâ—â—â—_n only_a 〈◊〉_d from_o hiâ—_n but_o this_o be_v far_o great_a than_o as_o you_o hold_v that_o he_o suffer_v no_o more_o but_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n that_o be_v in_o his_o soul_n by_o &_o from_o his_o body_n this_o be_v your_o drift_n every_o where_o but_o i_o note_v these_o express_a place_n 16._o â—â—g_v 16._o *_o sin_n which_o shall_v have_v wrought_v in_o we_o a_o eternal_a destruction_n both_o of_o body_n and_o soul_n can_v not_o far_o prevail_v in_o he_o but_o to_o the_o wound_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o shed_v of_o his_o blood_n for_o the_o just_a &_o full_a satisfaction_n of_o all_o our_o sin_n even_o in_o the_o righteous_a and_o sincere_a judgement_n of_o god_n likewise_o your_o general_a title_n be_v the_o full_a redemtion_n of_o mankind_n
for_o sin_n in_o such_o manner_n as_o he_o do_v on_o the_o reprobat_fw-la though_o not_o in_o such_o measure_n and_o that_o such_o likewise_o be_v christ_n suffering_n but_o then_o i_o deny_v that_o therein_o you_o have_v the_o truth_n or_o have_v right_o express_v the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n or_o of_o his_o saint_n because_o the_o suffering_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v proper_o not_o punishment_n for_o sin_n nor_o effect_n of_o god_n wrath_n proper_o but_o be_v indeed_o fatherly_a &_o profitable_a chastisement_n purposely_o inflict_v by_o god_n for_o their_o good_a as_o before_o be_v say_v but_o christ_n be_v altogether_o of_o another_o nature_n and_o condition_n they_o be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o proper_a punishment_n price_n satisfaction_n and_o ransom_n for_o sin_n as_o have_v be_v also_o note_v before_o &_o after_o shall_v be_v further_o show_v if_o you_o understand_v christ_n suffering_n god_n wrath_n to_o be_v such_o as_o the_o godly_a feel_v viz_n improper_o and_o large_o as_o the_o scripture_n 13â—_n scripture_n in_o your_o 13â—_n there_o do_v mean_a and_o not_o as_o the_o very_a price_n and_o punishment_n for_o sin_n but_o only_o as_o chastisement_n then_o that_o be_v likewise_o manefest_o untrue_a also_o then_o again_o for_o your_o word_n you_o be_v ambiguous_a and_o deceitful_a in_o this_o issue_n which_o kind_n of_o vanity_n you_o common_o use_v in_o all_o other_o your_o handle_n of_o controversy_n since_o you_o leave_v write_v against_o the_o papist_n as_o who_o so_o look_v shall_v see_v for_o we_o affirm_v that_o christ_n feel_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n do_v mean_v it_o proper_o as_o it_o inflict_v proper_o the_o punishment_n and_o wage_n of_o sin_n wrath._n your_o equâ—cation_n in_o term_n gâ—â—_n wrath._n and_o you_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o suffer_v god_n wrath_n as_o the_o saint_n and_o godly_a man_n do_v suffer_v it_o that_o be_v altogether_o unproper_o be_v sometime_o so_o call_v for_o a_o certain_a seem_n that_o it_o have_v to_o be_v so_o as_o you_o acknowledge_v in_o the_o sense_n of_o flesh_n and_o blood_n then_o what_o be_v this_o to_o our_o purpose_n what_o ell_n do_v you_o work_v herein_o but_o deceit_n &_o mistake_v to_o the_o reader_n through_o the_o ambiguity_n of_o this_o word_n the_o wrath_n of_o god_n which_o palpable_a fallacy_n of_o you_o be_v so_o plain_a that_o i_o need_v not_o stand_v to_o open_v it_o any_o further_o and_o yet_o i_o assure_v myself_o that_o this_o be_v the_o very_a ground_n and_o refuge_n of_o the_o error_n in_o this_o question_n which_o if_o a_o man_n mark_v well_o &_o distinguish_v as_o he_o ought_v and_o may_v easy_o do_v he_o shall_v quick_o drive_v you_o either_o to_o shift_v into_o this_o corner_n equiocation_n your_o equiocation_n or_o else_o to_o deny_v much_o of_o that_o which_o you_o affirm_v in_o your_o book_n elsewhere_o therefore_o let_v the_o wise_a consider_v it_o nevertheless_o if_o happy_o you_o mean_v otherwise_o that_o be_v 105_o pas_n you_o seem_v 〈◊〉_d meâ—â—â—_n paâ—â—â—01_n 105_o that_o christ_n very_a *_o outward_a suffering_n and_o bodily_a death_n be_v in_o a_o peculiar_a sort_n the_o effect_n of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n thus_o true_o punish_v our_o sin_n on_o he_o then_o in_o effect_n you_o come_v to_o we_o again_o of_o you_o will_v stick_v but_o to_o this_o for_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n to_o make_v christ_n flesh_n subject_a to_o god_n curse_v for_o sin_n and_o not_o his_o mind_n and_o soul_n likewise_o also_o we_o must_v note_v that_o such_o outward_a bodily_a suffering_n be_v indeed_o punishment_n and_o not_o chastisement_n for_o sin_n that_o be_v proper_a effect_n of_o god_n very_a wrath_n and_o justice_n come_v to_o take_v vengeance_n for_o sin_n they_o can_v be_v mere_a bodily_a suffering_n nor_o mere_o feel_v by_o sympathy_n in_o the_o soul_n which_o be_v the_o proper_a effect_n of_o the_o outward_a sensitive_a faculty_n only_o but_o they_o must_v of_o necessity_n be_v conceive_v discern_v &_o apply_v in_o the_o inward_a feel_n of_o the_o mind_n of_o christ_n body_n use_v 〈◊〉_d deny_v at_o â—â—â—nce_n that_o man_n â—â—â—ules_n have_v â—â—â—ny_a sense_n in_o yeâ—â—he_a â—inde_n beâ—â—â—des_fw-mi the_o comâ—â—â—â—_n sense_n deâ—â—nding_v on_o â—â—â—e_a body_n and_o will_v make_v a_o singular_a and_o secret_a impression_n of_o sorrow_n in_o the_o soul_n far_o above_o all_o mere_a bodily_a grief_n beyond_o all_o measure_n and_o proportion_n of_o thing_n in_o ordinary_a experience_n &_o so_o exceed_o differ_v from_o all_o other_o suffering_n in_o this_o life_n which_o therefore_o may_v just_o be_v term_v the_o proper_a and_o immediate_a suffering_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o this_o sense_n the_o lord_n doubtless_o reveal_v upon_o man_n sometime_o more_o sometime_o less_o in_o this_o life_n even_o as_o it_o please_v he_o which_o also_o befall_v unto_o christ_n again_o 257._o pag._n 257._o if_o the_o agony_n and_o sorrow_n which_o you_o grant_v christ_n suffer_v simple_o in_o his_o mind_n be_v mean_v by_o you_o to_o have_v be_v as_o it_o be_v a_o foretaste_n of_o such_o suffering_n and_o a_o fear_n or_o dread_n of_o they_o as_o very_o just_o it_o may_v be_v consider_v the_o weak_a disability_n of_o a_o creature_n to_o stand_v up_o against_o the_o creator_n propathia_n propathia_n namely_o now_o shoot_v or_o prepare_v to_o shoot_v present_o the_o sharp_a arrow_n of_o his_o wrath_n upon_o he_o for_o our_o sin_n in_o which_o case_n and_o condition_n christ_n now_o stand_v for_o that_o while_n then_o i_o say_v also_o i_o see_v in_o effect_n no_o difference_n between_o we_o than_o again_o this_o question_n be_v as_o it_o be_v at_o a_o end_n for_o doubtless_o he_o suffer_v at_o one_o time_n or_o other_o the_o same_o thing_n which_o he_o so_o fear_v yea_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o fear_v can_v be_v but_o a_o mighty_a suffering_n thereof_o neither_o do_v we_o contend_v to_o express_v what_o just_a measure_n of_o god_n wrath_n nor_o precise_o in_o what_o manner_n it_o be_v reveal_v and_o execute_v on_o christ_n only_o we_o know_v that_o whatsoever_o it_o be_v god_n very_a wrath_n and_o proper_a vengeance_n for_o sin_n though_o outward_o execute_v on_o the_o body_n yet_o it_o can_v not_o but_o sink_v in_o deep_a even_o into_o the_o depth_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o be_v discern_v by_o christ_n and_o conceive_v to_o be_v such_o and_o so_o sustain_v as_o proceed_v from_o god_n and_o so_o wound_v the_o soul_n proper_o yea_o chief_o though_o the_o anguish_n thereof_o bruise_v his_o body_n joint_o also_o again_o whatsoever_o you_o will_v call_v it_o all_o or_o oâ—â—_n or_o such_o 〈◊〉_d as_o waâ—_n nothing_o whole_a 〈◊〉_d sinful_a 〈◊〉_d rend_v oâ—â—_n part_n of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n as_o it_o proceed_v from_o he_o be_v incomprehensible_a unspeakable_a infinite_a and_o untolerable_a to_o any_o creature_n &_o therefore_o so_o it_o be_v unto_o the_o very_a manhood_n of_o christ_n namely_o when_o the_o godhead_n for_o a_o season_n conceal_v itself_o of_o purpose_n and_o with_o hold_v his_o wont_a supportation_n and_o comfort_n from_o he_o to_o the_o end_n that_o his_o bitter_a passion_n ordain_v of_o god_n and_o most_o voluntary_o undertake_v by_o himself_o may_v be_v in_o suffer_v the_o lessen_v the_o the_o 〈◊〉_d paines_n row_v 〈◊〉_d sin_n werâ—â—â—_n christ_n foâ—â—_n time_n no_o qualifyeâ—_n 〈◊〉_d lessen_v sorrow_n and_o pain_n which_o be_v due_a to_o we_o nothing_o qualify_v but_o in_o all_o severity_n accomplish_v as_o indeed_o when_o his_o hour_n be_v come_v and_o go_v it_o be_v as_o touch_v that_o term_n the_o death_n of_o his_o soul_n which_o you_o stumble_v at_o we_o shall_v speak_v thereof_o hereafter_o in_o due_a place_n thus_o far_o i_o have_v proceed_v in_o open_v the_o true_a state_n of_o this_o quaestion_a which_o whether_o you_o who_o have_v begin_v to_o avouch_v the_o contrary_a will_v now_o acknowledge_v and_o approve_v or_o not_o i_o know_v not_o overthrow_n it_o i_o trust_v you_o shall_v never_o with_o all_o the_o cunning_a and_o strength_n you_o have_v for_o undoubted_o it_o be_v and_o so_o will_v appear_v by_o the_o word_n to_o be_v a_o manefe_a truth_n and_o therefore_o 5â—_n therefore_o act._n 5â—_n will_v prevail_v beside_o that_o it_o be_v express_o the_o doctrine_n teach_v and_o establish_v by_o authority_n in_o england_n as_o hereafter_o god_n willing_a i_o shall_v plain_o show_v notwithstanding_o all_o your_o strange_a contradict_v &_o traduce_v thereof_o last_o whether_o i_o do_v set_v down_o this_o very_a state_n of_o the_o quaestion_n in_o full_a effect_n in_o my_o former_a treatise_n or_o whether_o i_o change_v it_o though_o indeed_o i_o grant_v i_o be_v there_o much_o short_a than_o i_o be_o here_o i_o pray_v you_o look_v &_o consider_v again_o in_o that_o my_o and_z my_o pag._n 5_o 33._o and_z first_o book_n this_o be_v well_o consider_v and_o mark_v will_v
you_o mean_v not_o thus_o 5.23_o 〈◊〉_d the._n 5.23_o than_o you_o again_o use_v sophistry_n deceive_v we_o with_o the_o word_n soul_n for_o we_o mean_v thereby_o in_o this_o question_n only_o the_o spirit_n or_o mind_n as_o it_o be_v also_o call_v in_o exact_a and_o distinct_a speech_n howbeit_o speak_v vulgar_o and_o ordinary_o we_o call_v it_o the_o soul_n which_o yet_o sometime_o be_v understand_v only_o for_o the_o sensitive_a part_n quicken_a the_o body_n and_o depend_v thereon_o but_o this_o indeed_o be_v not_o it_o which_o we_o have_v here_o in_o quaestion_n if_o you_o mean_v in_o soul_n to_o be_v proper_o and_o immediate_o in_o his_o immortal_a spirit_n as_o the_o ordinary_a phrase_n intend_v and_o that_o so_o he_o suffer_v direct_o punishment_n for_o sin_n in_o his_o soul_n &_o not_o devotion_n &_o piety_n &_o zealous_a care_n only_o as_o i_o doubt_v e_o you_o mean_v than_o you_o differ_v not_o from_o we_o 18._o 〈◊〉_d observe_v 〈◊〉_d 18._o but_o we_o all_o agree_v and_o thus_o 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howbeit_o you_o have_v yet_o here_o and_o there_o some_o exception_n against_o this_o our_o doctrine_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v clean_o neglect_v first_o you_o say_v 290._o â—ag_n 290._o a_o i_o extend_v châ—istes_n agony_n too_o far_o because_o i_o will_v have_v it_o proceed_v from_o b_o the_o intolerable_a sorrow_n and_o horror_n of_o god_n fiery_a wrath_n equal_a to_o hell_n 80._o treat_n 1._o â—â—g_n 80._o i_o show_v not_o there_o the_o cause_n of_o christ_n agony_n and_o fear_n i_o show_v it_o of_o purpose_n in_o the_o c_o beginning_n why_o do_v you_o not_o refuse_v that_o 7_o treat_n 1._o â—ag_n 6_o 7_o you_o ought_v to_o have_v deal_v direct_o against_o that_o which_o i_o express_o mention_v to_o have_v be_v the_o cause_n thus_o i_o say_v his_o sorrow_n and_o suffering_n for_o the_o redemption_n of_o sin_n the_o cup_n of_o affliction_n and_o sorrow_n which_o now_o he_o feel_v and_o be_v to_o feel_v yet_o further_o cause_v he_o to_o mourn_v and_o fear_n say_v then_o plain_o 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determine_v the_o measure_n and_o depth_n of_o sorrow_n which_o christ_n in_o his_o passion_n suffer_v as_o also_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a to_o define_v that_o glory_n which_o he_o taste_v of_o for_o the_o time_n in_o the_o mount_n only_o grant_v this_o plain_o that_o christ_n suffer_v in_o his_o soul_n the_o true_a effect_n of_o god_n proper_a justice_n or_o wrath_n and_o we_o seek_v no_o more_o grant_v this_o i_o say_v and_o then_o we_o will_v see_v further_o if_o you_o will_v make_v it_o a_o question_n whether_o the_o sense_n of_o pain_n in_o christ_n be_v lesser_a for_o the_o time_n then_o that_o which_o be_v eternal_a in_o the_o damn_a and_o whether_o the_o true_a and_o proper_a wrath_n of_o god_n take_v full_a vengeance_n of_o sin_n here_o in_o this_o world_n may_v not_o be_v as_o sharp_a and_o violent_a as_o the_o sharp_a torment_n in_o hell_n yea_o the_o very_a shame_n which_o be_v in_o hell_n the_o sharp_a true_o though_o christ_n suffer_v all_o which_o he_o do_v suffer_v 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m._n fulke_o 88_o â—rea_fw-la 1._o p._n 88_o m._n deering_n m._n whitaker_n which_o against_o you_o i_o allege_v you_o vouchsafe_v not_o a_o look_n towards_o they_o nor_o to_o m._n nowel_n catechism_n nor_o to_o the_o synod_n authorise_v it_o 42._o â—efore_o pag._n 42._o nor_o to_o the_o archb_n great_a *_o approbation_n thereof_o not_o to_o our_o common_a bible_n note_n authorize_v public_o to_o be_v read_v through_o out_o england_n only_o against_o my_o allege_v of_o our_o homily_n e_o you_o take_v exception_n 355._o pag_n 355._o but_o i_o trust_v i_o have_v before_o full_o and_o clear_o defend_v they_o to_o be_v for_o we_o and_o against_o you_o neither_o do_v any_o such_o matter_n appear_v in_o they_o as_o f_o you_o avouch_v 136._o pag._n 136._o thus_o than_o i_o end_v our_o 1._o question_n be_v sorry_a that_o i_o have_v be_v so_o long_o but_o i_o trust_v the_o friendly_a reader_n will_v pardon_v i_o consider_v how_o i_o have_v be_v occasion_v thereunto_o a_o brief_a collection_n 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