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to_o show_v the_o fondness_n of_o their_o allegation_n i_o defend_v no_o chauncelor_n etc._n etc._n that_o usurp_v any_o office_n whereunto_o they_o be_v not_o lawful_o call_v but_o i_o will_v not_o have_v the_o scripture_n abuse_v to_o confute_v they_o lest_o thereby_o see_v the_o weakness_n of_o our_o reason_n they_o be_v animate_v rather_o to_o proceed_v than_o persuade_v to_o leave_v of_o i_o do_v not_o think_v that_o chancellor_n ought_v to_o excommunicate_v with_o this_o kind_n of_o excommunication_n that_o we_o talk_v of_o except_o they_o be_v minister_n and_o so_o much_o have_v i_o utter_v in_o my_o answer_n but_o i_o will_v not_o disquiet_v the_o church_n for_o it_o by_o seek_v reformation_n extraordinary_o neither_o will_v i_o be_v wilful_a if_o i_o can_v hear_v any_o sound_n reason_n to_o remove_v i_o from_o this_o persuasion_n wherefore_o you_o do_v in_o this_o cause_n and_o in_o this_o place_n unjust_o charge_v i_o the_o place_n in_o the_o eightéenth_n of_o saint_n 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