Selected quad for the lemma: father_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
father_n	holy_a	lord_n	son_n	40,281	5	5.6012	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A53891	A dissertation concerning the pre-existency of souls wherein the state of the question is briefly unfolded, and divers arguments and objections on both sides alledged and answered : and a free judgment concerning the summ of the controversie allowed to every one / being originally written in the Latine tongue, several years since by the learned C.P. ; and now made English by D.F. [and] D.P. upon the recommendation of F.M.H., their friend.	C.P.; D. F.; D. P.	1684 (1684)	Wing P10; ESTC R5799	19,339	146

etc._n the_o minor_a be_v prove_v from_o psalm_n 39.12_o 1_o peter_n 2.11_o chap._n iu._n contain_v argument_n draw_v from_o holy_a scripture_n to_o prove_v the_o praeexistency_n of_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o messiah_n if_o christ_n soul_n do_v praeexi_v than_o do_v all_o soul_n praeexi_v but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a as_o present_o shall_v be_v teach_v from_o holy_a scripture_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o major_n be_v prove_v because_o christ_n be_v in_o all_o thing_n like_v unto_o we_o sin_n except_v now_o by_o and_o in_o the_o reason_n of_o all_o soul_n there_o be_v the_o same_o manner_n of_o duration_n the_o minor_a be_v prove_v 1._o because_o christ_n have_v long_o since_o often_o appear_v to_o the_o patriarch_n he_o often_o converse_v with_o moses_n he_o deliver_v the_o child_n of_o israel_n out_o of_o egypt_n he_o accompany_v they_o in_o the_o wilderness_n and_o lead_v they_o into_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n etc._n etc._n witness_n beside_o innumerable_a place_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n that_o of_o paul_n 1_o cor._n 10.4_o and_o that_o of_o john_n 1.11_o 2._o because_o he_o himself_o testify_v that_o he_o have_v a_o glory_n with_o his_o father_n before_o the_o world_n be_v make_v joh._n 17.5_o but_o this_o be_v not_o the_o glory_n of_o his_o divine_a nature_n because_o that_o be_v in_o its_o own_o nature_n immutable_a therefore_o it_o be_v the_o glory_n of_o his_o soul_n which_o already_o do_v praeexi_v 3._o moreover_o he_o himself_o testify_v thus_o i_o come_v but_o from_o the_o father_n and_o be_o come_v into_o the_o world_n again_o i_o leave_v the_o world_n and_o return_v unto_o the_o father_n as_o in_o john_n 16.28_o 4._o john_n 3.13_o no_o man_n ascend_v into_o heaven_n but_o he_o who_o descend_v from_o heaven_n the_o son_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n 5._o john_n the_o baptist_n testify_v of_o he_o that_o he_o come_v from_o above_o john_n 3.31_o 6._o again_o christ_n himself_o say_v joh._n 6.32_o my_o father_n give_v unto_o you_o the_o true_a bread_n from_o heaven_n for_o he_o be_v the_o true_a bread_n of_o god_n who_o descend_v from_o heaven_n 7._o verse_n 38._o i_o descend_v from_o heaven_n 8._o the_o live_a father_n have_v send_v i_o this_o be_v the_o bread_n which_o descend_v from_o heaven_n joh._n 6.57.58_o compare_v herewith_o vers_fw-la 41._o &_o 51._o 9_o 1._o cor._n 15.47_o 10._o let_v this_o mind_n be_v in_o you_o which_o be_v also_o in_o christ_n jesus_n who_o be_v in_o the_o form_n of_o god_n think_v it_o not_o robbery_n to_o be_v equal_a with_o god_n but_o make_v himself_o of_o no_o reputation_n and_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o form_n of_o a_o servant_n and_o be_v make_v in_o the_o likeness_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n they_o be_v the_o word_n of_o paul_n phil._n 2.5_o 6_o 7._o all_o which_o together_o with_o the_o forego_n word_n can_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v understand_v of_o the_o divine_a nature_n of_o christ_n which_o can_v neither_o be_v vary_v nor_o move_v from_o place_n to_o place_n by_o reason_n of_o his_o divine_a excellency_n and_o omnipresence_n which_o be_v essential_a to_o he_o and_o by_o consequence_n they_o must_v necessary_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n which_o praeexi_v long_o before_o its_o earthly_a body_n from_o whence_o a_o most_o certain_a argument_n may_v be_v frame_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o all_o other_o man_n do_v praeexi_v 11._o compare_v herewith_o heb._n 1.6_o the_o father_n bring_v in_o the_o first_o beget_v into_o the_o world_n which_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v according_a to_o his_o humanity_n 12._o 1_o john_n 3.5.8_o he_o who_o be_v manifest_v or_o appear_v he_o do_v not_o then_o begin_v to_o be_v in_o be_v chap._n v._o contain_v argument_n take_v from_o humane_a authority_n yet_o be_v such_o as_o in_o their_o kind_n be_v sacred_a 1._o let_v the_o apostle_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v here_o produce_v even_o when_o they_o be_v not_o as_o yet_o illuminate_v who_o be_v addict_v to_o this_o opinion_n and_o yet_o be_v not_o correct_v by_o our_o lord_n as_o be_v manifest_a 1._o in_o that_o that_o they_o ask_v he_o concern_v he_o who_o be_v bear_v blind_a joh._n 9.2_o 2._o in_o that_o that_o they_o say_v that_o some_o thought_n that_o he_o be_v john_n the_o baptist_n other_o elias_n other_o jeremias_n or_o one_o of_o the_o prophet_n as_o in_o matth._n 16.14_o which_o assertion_n can_v stand_v unless_o upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o praeexistency_n nor_o yet_o be_v it_o correct_v by_o our_o lord_n as_o without_o all_o doubt_n have_v it_o contain_v in_o it_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v erroneous_a it_o will_v have_v be_v by_o he_o who_o be_v the_o most_o holy_a and_o the_o most_o benign_a master_n or_o teacher_n 3._o in_o that_o that_o when_o our_o lord_n say_v that_o he_o come_v out_o from_o the_o father_n they_o present_o answer_v behold_v now_o speak_v thou_o plain_o and_o speak_v no_o proverb_n joh._n 16.29_o 2._o let_v clement_n of_o alexandria_n come_v forth_o next_o who_o often_o in_o his_o writing_n make_v mention_v of_o this_o opinion_n nor_o ever_o once_o redargu_v it_o as_o erroneous_a for_o in_o his_o stromat_n 1._o he_o thus_o say_v it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o barbarian_n do_v especial_o honour_v their_o lawgiver_n and_o lord_n calling_z they_o god_n for_o they_o think_v together_o with_o plato_n that_o some_o good_a soul_n have_v leave_v their_o supercelestial_a abode_n do_v make_v a_o descent_n into_o this_o inferior_a orb_n and_o have_v assume_v body_n become_v partaker_n of_o all_o those_o misery_n which_o be_v obvious_a in_o generation_n and_o become_v sollicitous_o careful_a of_o mankind_n to_o who_o they_o give_v law_n and_o teach_v philosophy_n and_o then_o in_o his_o 3._o book_n he_o say_v when_o he_o dispute_v against_o the_o marcionite_n and_o allege_v many_o place_n out_o of_o plato_n which_o do_v partly_o direct_o and_o partly_o indirect_o include_v this_o opinion_n among_o which_o be_v that_o out_o of_o his_o phaedo_fw-la viz._n that_o there_o be_v a_o secret_a bring_v down_o to_o we_o by_o tradition_n that_o we_o man_n be_v in_o this_o life_n as_o it_o be_v in_o a_o prison_n so_o also_o be_v that_o other_o where_o he_o cit_v heraclitus_n also_o pythagoras_n and_o socrates_n together_o with_o plato_n that_o death_n be_v but_o what_o we_o see_v when_o up_o and_o awake_v but_o what_o we_o see_v in_o sleep_n be_v a_o dream_n but_o most_o agreeable_a of_o all_o be_v what_o he_o quote_v out_o of_o philolaus_n the_o pythagorean_n the_o ancient_a divine_n and_o poet_n do_v testify_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v conjoin_v to_o this_o earthly_a body_n by_o way_n of_o a_o punishment_n and_o that_o she_o be_v all_o the_o while_o she_o remain_v therein_o as_o it_o be_v bury_v but_o against_o this_o he_o say_v nothing_o in_o the_o same_o book_n although_o he_o mighty_o set_v himself_o against_o julius_n cassian_n yet_o he_o use_v these_o word_n this_o noble_a wit_n be_v of_o a_o opinion_n which_o accord_v more_o with_o the_o mind_n of_o plato_n viz._n that_o the_o soul_n which_o be_v divine_a and_o from_o above_o bei●●_n effeminate_a with_o lust_n do_v descend_v into_o generation_n and_o corruption_n yea_o in_o his_o protrept_n he_o express_o say_v that_o christ_n do_v again_o call_v back_o into_o heaven_n those_o who_o be_v throw_v down_o upon_o and_o to_o the_o earth_n 3._o let_v origen_n follow_v next_o who_o more_o open_o do_v propagate_v this_o opinion_n so_o as_o there_o be_v no_o need_n to_o give_v any_o quotation_n out_o of_o he_o 4._o moreover_o synesius_n bishop_n of_o cyrenia_n who_o in_o his_o 105._o epistle_n say_v express_o in_o good_a truth_n i_o shall_v never_o design_n to_o be_v of_o the_o opinion_n that_o the_o soul_n in_o its_o existence_n come_v after_o the_o body_n and_o in_o his_o 3●_n hymn_n as_o a_o drop_n from_o heaven_n i_o be_v poure●_n forth_o on_o the_o earth_n restore_v i_o to_o my_o spring_n whence_o i_o flow_v in_o this_o banish_v wander_a birth_n 5._o to_o these_o join_v arnobius_n who_o in_o his_o 1._o book_n against_o the_o gentile_n say_v thus_o do_v we_o not_o all_o owe_v unto_o god_n this_o in_o the_o first_o place_n that_o we_o be_v that_o we_o be_v call_v man_n that_o be_v either_o send_v from_o he_o or_o fall_v through_o blindness_n we_o be_v detain_v in_o the_o chain_n of_o a_o body_n 6._o prudentius_n appear_v next_o who_o in_o his_o hymn_n at_o the_o funeral_n solemnity_n of_o the_o decease_a sing_v after_o this_o manner_n see_v now_o how_o to_o the_o faithful_a be_v make_v plain_a the_o bright_a path_n of_o the_o ample_a paradise_n again_o and_o man_n may_v free_o now_o approach_v that_o grove_n which_o the_o sly_a serpent_n take_v from_o he_o above_o there_o o_o thou_o best_a of_o guide_n i_o humble_o pray_v command_v that_o thy_o servant-maid_n this_o mind_n

in_o holy_a writ_n be_v no_o such_o addition_n that_o man_n be_v to_o multiply_v according_a to_o his_o species_n or_o kind_a but_o it_o be_v naked_o put_v thus_o increase_n and_o multiply_v which_o be_v indifferent_a phrase_n without_o all_o determination_n of_o the_o principal_a efficient_a cause_n 2._o from_o gen._n 5._o vers_fw-la 3._o if_o adam_n beget_v a_o son_n according_a to_o his_o own_o image_n &_o likeness_n it_o follow_v then_o that_o his_o son_n be_v also_o beget_v by_o he_o as_o to_o his_o soul_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o also_o be_v the_o latter_a so_o answer_n we_o deny_v the_o antecedent_n because_o likeness_n may_v be_v understand_v to_o be_v external_a by_o reason_n of_o the_o body_n to_o the_o corruption_n of_o which_o the_o soul_n be_v also_o subject_v although_o it_o come_v into_o it_o from_o without_o 3._o from_o gen._n 46._o vers_fw-la 26._o whatsoever_o go_v forth_o from_o out_o of_o the_o loin_n of_o the_o parent_n that_o do_v not_o praeexi_v but_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o son_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n answer_n in_o this_o say_v be_v a_o synecdoche_n of_o one_o part_n for_o another_o where_o the_o soul_n be_v take_v for_o the_o body_n as_o the_o scripture_n also_o speak_v elsewhere_o as_o psal_n 16.10_o he_o will_v not_o leave_v my_o soul_n in_o the_o grave_a etc._n etc._n 2._o in_o this_o also_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o metonymy_n of_o the_o form_n for_o the_o thing_n form_v of_o the_o soul_n for_o the_o thing_n animate_v 3._o if_o the_o acception_n be_v proper_a this_o absurdity_n follow_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v propagate_v from_o the_o father_n only_o the_o mother_n contribute_v nothing_o 4._o from_o job_n 14.4_o who_o can_v give_v a_o clean_a thing_n out_o of_o that_o that_o be_v unclean_a whence_o it_o follow_v that_o from_o the_o impure_a soul_n of_o the_o father_n must_v proceed_v or_o come_v forth_o a_o impure_a soul_n of_o the_o son_n answer_n the_o particle_n from_o do_v not_o always_o signify_v the_o principal_a efficient_a cause_n but_o often_o time_n also_o the_o instrumental_a cause_n or_o that_o cause_n without_o which_o the_o effect_n can_v be_v produce_v and_o so_o be_v it_o to_o be_v understand_v in_o this_o place_n 5._o from_o psal_n 51._o vers_fw-la 5._o behold_v i_o be_v shape_v in_o iniquity_n and_o in_o sin_n do_v my_o mother_n conceive_v i_o answer_n the_o text_n speak_v of_o the_o iniquity_n and_o sin_n not_o of_o the_o infant_n but_o of_o the_o generate_a parent_n but_o if_o the_o sin_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o infant_n this_o be_v then_o the_o sense_n or_o meaning_n behold_v my_o soul_n be_v already_o in_o in-iniquity_n from_o a_o precede_a fall_n be_v receive_v into_o the_o womb_n of_o my_o mother_n 6._o that_o which_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o flesh_n be_v flesh_n john_n 3.6_o answer_n the_o word_n or_o term_n to_o be_v bear_v import_v no_o essential_a dependence_n on_o he_o who_o beget_v for_o the_o soul_n even_o already_o before_o its_o nativity_n be_v carnal_a that_o be_v have_v gain_v a_o vital_a aptitude_n unto_o flesh_n come_v forth_o from_o carnal_a parent_n be_v call_v flesh_n even_o as_o impure_a water_n derive_v through_o impure_a pipe_n when_o it_o break_v forth_o be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o impure_a 7._o rom._n 5.12_o as_o by_o one_o man_n sin_n enter_v into_o the_o world_n and_o by_o sin_n death_n so_o death_n be_v pass_v unto_o all_o man_n because_o all_o have_v sin_v from_o this_o it_o follow_v that_o before_o adam_n there_o be_v no_o sin_n answer_n adam_n in_o the_o allegorical_a history_n of_o moses_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o all_o mankind_n and_o this_o very_a text_n do_v show_v that_o death_n be_v pass_v unto_o all_o man_n not_o upon_o that_o account_n that_o adam_n only_o have_v sin_v but_o in_o as_o much_o as_o every_o single_a man_n have_v sin_v the_o particle_n one_a signify_v the_o same_o as_o first_n do_v as_o in_o mar._n 16.2_o luke_n 24.1_o john_n 20.1_o act_n 20.7_o 8._o rom._n 9.11_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o child_n who_o be_v not_o yet_o bear_v have_v do_v neither_o good_a nor_o evil_a whence_o it_o be_v conclude_v that_o soul_n before_o this_o earthly_a life_n have_v not_o commit_v sin_n answer_n not_o be_v as_o yet_o bear_v be_v either_o such_o as_o exist_v before_o the_o union_n of_o soul_n and_o body_n or_o such_o as_o exist_v in_o that_o union_n the_o text_n speak_v of_o these_o latter_a not_o of_o the_o former_a because_o first_o they_o be_v express_o name_v child_n 2._o the_o determinate_a time_n in_o which_o they_o have_v commit_v neither_o good_a nor_o evil_n be_v denote_v viz._n when_o the_o lord_n say_v the_o elder_n shall_v serve_v the_o young_a which_o he_o then_o say_v when_o they_o be_v already_o alive_a and_o the_o infant_n move_v in_o the_o womb_n and_o so_o be_v not_o yet_o bear_v they_o may_v be_v say_v to_o have_v commit_v neither_o good_a nor_o evil_n actual_o although_o before_o the_o union_n somewhat_o of_o a_o fall_n have_v precede_v and_o therefore_o the_o predicate_a be_v to_o be_v limit_v they_o have_v do_v nothing_o of_o good_a or_o evil_n viz._n in_o the_o state_n of_o the_o earthly_a union_n of_o body_n and_o soul_n 9_o from_o 2_o cor._n 5.10_o they_o argue_v thus_o if_o in_o the_o place_n where_o a_o account_n be_v to_o be_v render_v of_o all_o sin_n a_o account_n be_v to_o be_v render_v of_o those_o only_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o body_n as_o every_o one_o have_v do_v it_o follow_v that_o without_o the_o body_n there_o be_v no_o sin_n but_o the_o former_a be_v true_a and_o therefore_o also_o the_o latter_a answer_n the_o antecedent_n be_v deny_v 1._o because_o in_o the_o text_n be_v find_v no_o such_o exclusive_a particle_n only_a but_o from_o the_o great_a part_n viz._n the_o actual_a sin_n be_v the_o denomination_n of_o the_o judgement_n make_v therefore_o it_o may_v also_o be_v that_o that_o account_n must_v be_v general_o render_v of_o original_a sin_n 2._o grant_v that_o a_o account_n be_v not_o to_o be_v give_v of_o this_o sin_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v not_o commit_v because_o 1._o it_o will_v have_v be_v obliterated_a already_o by_o the_o general_a oblivion_n in_o the_o soul_n 2._o it_o shall_v have_v already_o suffer_v punishment_n for_o it_o viz._n it_o be_v be_v thrust_v down_o into_o this_o earthly_a dungeon_n or_o prison_n 10._o from_o hebr._n 7._o v._o 5.9_o 10._o who_o pay_v tithe_n in_o the_o loin_n of_o his_o father_n he_o even_o as_o to_o his_o soul_n be_v in_o his_o father_n but_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n answer_n the_o antecedent_n be_v deny_v for_o this_o phrase_n to_o be_v in_o the_o loin_n of_o his_o father_n signify_v nothing_o else_o than_o not_o to_o be_v as_o yet_o bear_v and_o yet_o to_o be_v in_o a_o possibility_n to_o be_v bear_v therefore_o such_o as_o be_v the_o nativity_n such_o also_o be_v the_o possibility_n or_o power_n of_o be_v to_o be_v bear_v now_o the_o nativity_n do_v not_o admit_v of_o the_o 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give_v from_o god_n at_o the_o time_n of_o generation_n viz._n by_o a_o universal_a concurrence_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o it_o then_o at_o length_n begin_v 12._o from_o zach._n 12.1_o the_o lord_n say_v who_o form_v the_o spirit_n of_o man_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o he_o if_o therefore_o the_o spirit_n of_o man_n be_v form_v within_o he_o it_o do_v not_o praeexi_v answer_n by_o spirit_n in_o this_o place_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v the_o animal_n spirit_n as_o often_o it_o be_v elsewhere_o gen._n 6.17_o ch_n 7.15_o compare_v the_o 15._o verse_n import_v the_o same_o sense_n almost_o of_o psalm_n 33._o even_o as_o also_o be_v the_o determination_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o he_o viz._n it_o denote_v it_o to_o be_v in_o his_o bowel_n whence_o it_o be_v that_o it_o so_o follow_v not_o in_o respect_n to_o the_o soul_n finis_fw-la