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the_o simple_a be_v of_o church_n when_o they_o be_v call_v e._n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n yet_o ordinary_o to_o their_o call_n they_o be_v and_o to_o their_o well-being_n and_o therefore_o the_o lord_n jesus_n out_o of_o his_o tender_a compassion_n have_v appoint_v and_o ordain_v officer_n which_o he_o will_v not_o have_v do_v if_o they_o have_v not_o be_v useful_a and_o needful_a for_o the_o church_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 6._o sect_n 2._o quest_n 2._o what_o officer_n then_o have_v christ_n appoint_v and_o ordain_v in_o the_o church_n answ_n these_o officer_n be_v either_o extraordinary_a or_o ordinary_a extraordinary_a as_o apostle_n prophet_n and_o evangelist_n or_o ordinary_a as_o elder_n and_o deacon_n platform_n of_o discipline_n chap._n 6._o sect_n 3._o quest_n 3._o how_o many_o sort_n of_o elder_n have_v christ_n appoint_v in_o his_o church_n answ_n of_o elder_n who_o be_v also_o in_o scripture_n call_v bishop_n there_o 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pastor_n or_o teacher_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n answ_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o stand_n and_o a_o staple_n rule_n no_o man_n take_v this_o honour_n to_o himself_o hooker_n mr._n hooker_n but_o he_o that_o be_v call_v be_v aaron_n heb._n 5.9_o mr._n hooker_n surney_n of_o discipline_n part_n 2._o pag._n 42._o line_n 33._o 2._o without_o this_o call_v none_o can_v warrantable_o do_v any_o act_n that_o belong_v to_o any_o officer_n ibid._n pag._n 45._o line_n 28._o 3._o without_o this_o whatever_o be_v do_v in_o that_o behalf_n be_v void_a and_o of_o none_o effect_n ibid._n line_n 30._o quest_n 6._o may_v none_o then_o preach_v the_o word_n and_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o church_n but_o the_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n cotton_n mr._n cotton_n answ_n we_o be_v far_o from_o allow_v that_o sacrilegious_a usurpation_n of_o the_o minister_n office_n which_o we_o hear_v of_o to_o our_o grief_n to_o be_v practise_v in_o some_o place_n that_o private_a christian_n ordinary_o take_v upon_o 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church_n hear_v their_o minister_n as_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o hold_v communion_n with_o they_o in_o their_o church_n answ_n we_o may_v hold_v and_o retain_v communion_n with_o they_o in_o baptise_v our_o child_n as_o occasion_n may_v fall_v out_o by_o absence_n of_o our_o minister_n in_o their_o church_n 23._o apologetical_a narration_n they_o say_v but_o do_v not_o mat._n 23._o and_o by_o occasional_a receive_v the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n in_o their_o church_n and_o receive_v such_o member_n of_o they_o as_o be_v due_o qualify_v unto_o communion_n with_o we_o occasional_o also_o our_o minister_n to_o preach_v in_o their_o congregation_n and_o receive_v they_o also_o to_o preach_v in_o we_o as_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n paper_n give_v to_o the_o committee_n of_o accommodation_n by_o thomas_n goodwin_n philip_n nye_n william_n bridge_n sydrach_n simson_n jerom._n burrough_n pag._n 29._o line_n 17._o quest_n 9_o what_o shall_v we_o judge_v then_o of_o the_o 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cotton_n yet_o that_o be_v no_o safe_a ground_n of_o separation_n ezek._n 5.11_o ezek._n 9.4_o so_o when_o the_o son_n of_o eli_n corrupt_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o god_n their_o sin_n be_v great_a yet_o it_o be_v the_o sin_n of_o the_o people_n to_o separate_v and_o abhor_v 1_o sam._n 2.17_o mr._n cotton_v exposition_n of_o the_o first_o epistle_n of_o john_n fol._n 157._o line_n 10._o object_n 2_o they_o say_v our_o government_n be_v antichristian_a answ_n we_o say_v it_o be_v that_o government_n that_o expel_v antichrist_n and_o sundry_a have_v witness_v it_o with_o their_o blood_n and_o i_o say_v further_o that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o corruption_n in_o our_o state_n as_o be_v in_o jerusalem_n when_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n keep_v fellowship_n with_o they_o as_o two_o high_a priest_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n line_n 13._o obj._n 3_o they_o say_v our_o ministry_n and_o call_v be_v antichristian_a answ_n we_o say_v we_o do_v not_o profess_v ourselves_o enemy_n to_o christ_n 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to_o forbear_v 1_o cor._n 5._o mat._n 13.29_o 30._o ezra_n 4.20_o they_o cease_v from_o build_v the_o temple_n when_o there_o come_v a_o command_n against_o it_o thing_n o_o that_o you_o be_v wise_a to_o consider_v these_o thing_n therefore_o they_o have_v better_o forbear_v when_o it_o can_v be_v redress_v without_o great_a prejudice_n to_o the_o church_n 3._o the_o corruption_n of_o some_o do_v not_o corrupt_v the_o church_n nor_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n he_o that_o eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o eat_v and_o drink_v damnation_n to_o himself_o not_o to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n and_o you_o shall_v find_v many_o church_n as_o corrupt_v as_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n yet_o the_o apostle_n will_v not_o have_v they_o renounce_v it_o mr._n cotton_v exposition_n of_o the_o first_o epistle_n of_o john_n fol._n 157._o line_n 28._o hitherto_o of_o communion_n with_o and_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n now_o to_o draw_v some_o position_n from_o these_o particular_n with_o 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into_o some_o heinous_a crime_n against_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n 1_o cor._n 5.11_o mr._n cotton_n holiness_n of_o church-member_n p._n 56._o l._n 21._o quest_n but_o if_o such_o member_n as_o these_o be_v be_v not_o to_o be_v cast_v out_o nor_o withdraw_v from_o what_o be_v to_o be_v do_v answ_n such_o as_o be_v bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n and_o baptize_v in_o their_o infancy_n into_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o church_n cotton_n mr._n cotton_n be_v initiate_v member_n of_o the_o same_o church_n though_o destitute_a of_o spiritual_a grace_n until_o they_o just_o deprive_v themselves_o of_o the_o privilege_n of_o that_o fellowship_n for_o even_o of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n mark_n 10.14_o mr._n cotton_n holiness_n of_o church-member_n pag._n 1._o line_n 16._o 2._o such_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o be_v bear_v in_o the_o same_o and_o receive_v their_o membership_n in_o their_o infancy_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o their_o parent_n when_o 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part_n 2._o pag._n 76._o l._n 1._o quest_n 12._o but_o what_o if_o there_o be_v no_o elder_n in_o the_o church_n who_o shall_v ordain_v the_o officer_n then_o answ_n in_o such_o church_n where_o there_o be_v no_o elder_n and_o the_o church_n so_o desire_v discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n we_o see_v not_o why_o imposition_n of_o hand_n may_v not_o be_v perform_v by_o the_o elder_n of_o other_o church_n platform_n of_o disc_n from_o n._n e._n chap._n 9_o sect_n 5._o quest_n 13._o be_v the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n to_o be_v dispense_v by_o the_o minister_n thereof_o only_o in_o public_a or_o in_o private_a also_o answ_n they_o must_v be_v dispense_v public_o in_o the_o presence_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n and_o with_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o church_n solemn_o assemble_v it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o confine_v preach_v to_o corner_n for_o wisdom_n cry_v open_o in_o the_o street_n prov._n 8.2_o 3._o and_o of_o old_a the_o church_n of_o the_o 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shall_v be_v such_o as_o shall_v suit_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o ordinance_n and_o serve_v the_o end_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v that_o in_o time_n of_o persecution_n when_o the_o church_n dare_v not_o nor_o be_v meet_v she_o shall_v show_v herself_o to_o the_o enemy_n yet_o not_o then_o be_v the_o word_n nor_o sacrament_n private_o preach_v nor_o administer_v neither_o yet_o aught_o to_o be_v for_o though_o they_o be_v do_v in_o the_o house_n of_o a_o private_a man_n yet_o because_o they_o be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v administer_v in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o congregation_n there_o be_v neither_o private_a preach_n nor_o private_a celebrate_n of_o the_o sacrament_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 3._o pag._n 28._o line_n 15_o etc._n etc._n quest_n 14._o to_o who_o be_v the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n of_o the_o church_n to_o dispense_v the_o sacrament_n answ_n a_o person_n have_v his_o first_o
right_n to_o a_o sacrament_n because_o he_o have_v a_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n of_o which_o it_o be_v a_o seal_n but_o he_o must_v come_v to_o it_o in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n that_o be_v the_o party_n must_v be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n because_o the_o seal_n can_v there_o only_o be_v right_o and_o orderly_o administer_v i_o say_v it_o be_v sufficient_a the_o party_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n not_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 2._o pag._n 65._o l._n 26._o yet_o it_o be_v requisite_a that_o such_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n as_o be_v baptize_v and_o receive_v their_o membership_n in_o their_o infancy_n shall_v come_v to_o their_o trial_n and_o examination_n and_o manifest_v their_o faith_n and_o repentance_n by_o a_o open_a profession_n thereof_o before_o they_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o else_o 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the_o place_n nor_o yet_o sincerity_n of_o heart_n and_o life_n to_o endeavour_v much_o less_o to_o discharge_v the_o weight_n of_o the_o service_n which_o shall_v be_v do_v by_o they_o be_v blind_a guide_n paint_a sepulcher_n gross_o hypocritical_a and_o scandalous_o vile_a in_o their_o general_a course_n corrupt_v the_o law_n by_o their_o false_a and_o unlearned_a gloss_n and_o pervert_v the_o simple_a by_o their_o lewd_a carriage_n pollute_v all_o god_n ordinance_n by_o their_o corrupt_a handle_n and_o administration_n thereof_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 2._o pag._n 45._o line_n 34._o quest_n 19_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o roll_a elder_a distinct_a from_o the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n answ_n the_o roll_a elder_n office_n be_v distinct_a from_o the_o office_n of_o the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n chap._n 7._o sect_n 1._o quest_n 20._o why_o be_v this_o officer_n call_v a_o roll_a elder_n answ_n the_o roll_a elder_n be_v not_o so_o call_v to_o exclude_v the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n from_o rule_v discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n but_o because_o rule_v and_o govern_v be_v common_a to_o these_o with_o the_o other_o whereas_o attend_v to_o teach_v and_o preach_v the_o word_n be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o former_a platform_n of_o disc_n chap._n 7._o sect_n 1._o quest_n 21._o how_o do_v you_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o office_n as_o a_o roll_a elder_n appoint_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o church_n answ_n that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o office_n and_o officer_n appoint_v by_o christ_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n as_o the_o scripture_n be_v plain_a to_o he_o who_o spirit_n and_o apprehension_n be_v not_o prepossessed_a and_o forestalled_n with_o prejudice_n so_o this_o have_v be_v maintain_v by_o many_o of_o christ_n worthy_n of_o former_a and_o of_o late_a time_n so_o that_o we_o have_v no_o controversy_n here_o but_o with_o hierarchical_a 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but_o say_v he_o tell_v i_o 1_o tim._n 5.20_o now_o this_o be_v sad_a when_o a_o man_n can_v bear_v reproof_n of_o other_o nor_o bear_v reproof_n of_o elder_n but_o turn_v again_o and_o will_v be_v judge_n in_o his_o own_o case_n though_o never_o so_o gross_a a_o sign_n of_o a_o extreme_a froward_a high_a spirit_n mr._n shepherd_n pag._n 108._o 7._o they_o be_v to_o feed_v in_o power_n as_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v every_o one_o in_o their_o place_n hence_o when_o man_n despise_v their_o food_n and_o they_o be_v poor_a thing_n they_o speak_v and_o they_o can_v see_v no_o matter_n in_o they_o and_o that_o after_o study_n prayer_n and_o tear_n and_o so_o cast_v it_o by_o that_o be_v to_o cast_v off_o the_o lord_n when_o man_n grow_v glut_v and_o full_a that_o they_o eat_v not_o a_o bit_n these_o thing_n call_v for_o chain_n mr._n shepherd_n pag._n 109._o quest_n 25._o but_o why_o be_v you_o thus_o large_a in_o set_v out_o the_o work_n and_o power_n of_o the_o roll_a elder_n answ_n 1._o because_o the_o apostle_n in_o many_o of_o his_o epistle_n lay_v a_o special_a charge_n upon_o the_o people_n to_o have_v a_o care_n of_o the_o officer_n shepherd_n mr._n shepherd_n and_o obey_v they_o heb._n 13.7_o 17._o it_o be_v twice_o repeat_v first_o lest_o officer_n be_v sad_a in_o their_o work_n that_o be_v heavy_a second_o lest_o it_o be_v unprofitable_a for_o you_o you_o think_v to_o get_v this_o and_o that_o good_a by_o it_o but_o it_o will_v be_v nothing_o in_o the_o conclusion_n 2._o because_o we_o lie_v under_o the_o slander_n of_o many_o and_o that_o godly_a as_o if_o elder_n in_o church_n be_v but_o only_a cipher_n 3._o because_o people_n begin_v to_o run_v into_o extreme_n elder_n take_v all_o to_o themselves_o and_o people_n all_o to_o themselves_o 4._o because_o if_o here_o be_v not_o attendance_n you_o will_v quick_o see_v the_o miserable_a ruin_n and_o fall_v of_o church_n more_o sad_a than_o the_o burn_n of_o solomon_n temple_n it_o be_v 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out_o of_o one_o stock_n or_o common_a treasury_n answ_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n 1._o no_o for_o first_o all_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o pay_v it_o to_o the_o treasury_n of_o the_o poor_a but_o all_o be_v bind_v to_o pay_v to_o the_o maintenance_n of_o the_o minister_n gal._n 6.6_o 2._o people_z be_v bind_v to_o make_v their_o teacher_n partaker_n of_o all_o their_o good_a thing_n not_o so_o the_o poor_a 3._o this_o couple_v of_o the_o poor_a and_o minister_n in_o one_o common_a treasury_n confound_v the_o work_n of_o justice_n and_o mercy_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 2._o pag._n 30._o line_n 23._o quest_n 30._o what_o be_v the_o chief_a aim_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o set_v these_o officer_n in_o his_o church_n answ_n the_o chief_a aim_n of_o our_o saviour_n under_o the_o glory_n of_o his_o name_n be_v to_o provide_v for_o the_o especial_a good_a of_o his_o elect_a yet_o because_o those_o his_o elect_a be_v mingle_v here_o with_o the_o wicked_a in_o the_o world_n nay_o many_o a_o elect_a child_n proceed_v of_o a_o reprobate_a parent_n and_o because_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o the_o eye_n of_o man_n to_o search_v into_o heart_n secret_n and_o inward_a sincerity_n which_o be_v cover_v there_o but_o must_v judge_v of_o man_n and_o dispense_v ordinance_n unto_o man_n according_a to_o the_o limit_n and_o law_n of_o rational_a charity_n therefore_o it_o be_v that_o our_o saviour_n have_v bestow_v these_o office_n as_o a_o royal_a gift_n upon_o the_o visible_a church_n over_o who_o he_o be_v a_o head_n political_n by_o outward_a guidance_n and_o government_n as_o well_o as_o a_o head_n mystical_a by_o his_o special_a and_o spiritual_a conveyance_n of_o his_o grace_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 2._o pag._n 2._o line_n 29._o hitherto_o of_o church_n officer_n etc._n etc._n now_o to_o draw_v some_o position_n out_o of_o these_o particular_n with_o inference_n thereupon_o 1._o officer_n be_v ordinary_o necessary_a to_o the_o call_n of_o a_o church_n and_o to_o the_o well-being_n of_o it_o when_o call_v chap._n 5._o quest_n 1._o answ_n therefore_o the_o way_n of_o gather_v or_o call_v church_n as_o it_o be_v use_v here_o in_o england_n be_v preposterous_a where_o the_o church_n call_v and_o constitute_v itself_o first_o and_o then_o afterward_o constitute_v a_o officer_n or_o officer_n 2._o none_o can_v warrantable_o do_v any_o act_n that_o belong_v to_o a_o office_n without_o a_o call_n to_o that_o office_n and_o if_o he_o do_v it_o be_v void_a and_o of_o none_o effect_n yea_o it_o be_v a_o sacrilegious_a usurpation_n a_o anabaptistical_n frenzy_n for_o private_a christian_n to_o take_v upon_o they_o ordinary_o to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n public_o etc._n etc._n chap._n 5._o quest_n 4_o 5._o therefore_o let_v the_o brethren_n of_o the_o churchway_n consider_v their_o practice_n of_o send_v out_o their_o private_a brethren_n and_o member_n to_o preach_v ordinary_o in_o the_o country_n parish_n how_o warrantable_a it_o be_v and_o if_o every_o act_n of_o a_o office_n do_v without_o a_o call_v to_o the_o office_n be_v void_a and_o null_a whether_o such_o public_a preach_n of_o private_a christian_n be_v not_o a_o take_a god_n name_n in_o vain_a a_o mock_n of_o god_n and_o the_o soul_n of_o his_o people_n and_o sacrilege_n instead_o of_o sacrifice_n 3._o that_o famous_a text_n 1_o cor._n 14.31_o give_v no_o countenance_n at_o all_o to_o preach_v of_o private_a man_n and_o such_o as_o be_v not_o in_o office_n to_o quest_n 5._o obj._n 1_o 4._o christ_n have_v appoint_v in_o his_o church_n not_o one_o but_o many_o officer_n pastor_n teacher_n ruler_n and_o deacon_n and_o none_o of_o these_o superfluous_a but_o all_o useful_a and_o needful_a all_o
give_v in_o wisdom_n and_o compassion_n to_o his_o church_n quest_n 1_o 2._o 3._o therefore_o how_o those_o church_n can_v be_v say_v to_o come_v near_o the_o rule_n and_o walk_v close_a to_o the_o rule_n who_o either_o have_v no_o officer_n at_o all_o as_o the_o church_n of_o h._n and_o the_o church_n of_o n._n or_o else_o content_a themselves_o with_o one_o officer_n a_o pastor_n have_v neither_o teacher_n ruler_n nor_o deacon_n as_o most_o of_o the_o gather_a church_n in_o england_n be_v this_o to_o walk_v according_a to_o rule_v be_v not_o this_o either_o to_o slight_v the_o compassion_n of_o christ_n in_o give_v these_o officer_n or_o to_o contradict_v the_o wisdom_n of_o christ_n and_o proclaim_v those_o office_n needless_a and_o useless_a which_o christ_n judge_v needful_a and_o useful_a and_o therefore_o appoint_v in_o his_o church_n 5._o ordination_n be_v a_o fundamental_a in_o church_n discipline_n and_o give_v the_o officer_n right_a in_o his_o office_n jus_o in_o re_fw-mi see_v quest_n 9_o 10._o therefore_o ordination_n be_v more_o than_o election_n which_o only_o give_v jus_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la and_o quaere_fw-la how_o many_o minister_n of_o our_o gather_a church_n can_v have_v a_o full_a right_n and_o authority_n to_o administer_v all_o ordinance_n have_v only_a election_n of_o the_o people_n which_o give_v but_o jus_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la and_o not_o ordination_n which_o give_v jus_o in_o re_fw-mi 6._o ordination_n be_v a_o act_n of_o rule_n and_o pertain_v to_o the_o presbytersy_n or_o presbytery_n que._n 11._o therefore_o not_o to_o the_o fraternity_n or_o body_n of_o the_o people_n 7._o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v dispense_v in_o public_a quest_n 1â—_n therefore_o why_o do_v many_o of_o the_o churchway_n so_o frequent_o baptize_v child_n in_o private_a 8._o the_o sacrament_n be_v badge_n to_o show_v our_o separation_n from_o all_o profane_a society_n and_o to_o signify_v our_o communion_n one_o with_o another_o in_o the_o profession_n and_o confession_n of_o the_o faith_n as_o our_o spiritual_a union_n and_o communion_n with_o christ_n our_o head_n mystical_o see_v quâ—st_n 13._o answ_n therefore_o the_o sacrament_n be_v note_n of_o the_o true_a church_n as_o the_o protestant_a writer_n have_v always_o maintain_v against_o the_o papist_n 9_o a_o person_n have_v his_o first_o right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n because_o he_o have_v a_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n of_o which_o it_o be_v a_o seal_n quest_n 14._o therefore_o the_o church_n covenant_n as_o they_o call_v it_o give_v not_o a_o man_n his_o first_o right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n for_o that_o be_v not_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n nor_o be_v the_o sacrament_n a_o seal_n of_o that_o 10._o for_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o the_o party_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n not_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a quest_n 14._o therefore_o whether_o the_o congregation_n be_v constitute_v after_o this_o or_o that_o form_n by_o express_a covenant_n or_o not_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o independent_a congregation_n or_o a_o classical_a congregation_n it_o be_v all_o one_o if_o a_o man_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n he_o come_v in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n 11._o it_o be_v requisite_a that_o those_o who_o be_v baptize_v and_o receive_v their_o member-ship_n in_o their_o infancy_n shall_v come_v to_o their_o trial_n and_o examination_n before_o they_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o supper_n and_o this_o examination_n may_v be_v make_v by_o the_o elder_n yea_o in_o some_o case_n it_o be_v necessary_a it_o shall_v be_v so_o and_o for_o all_o woman_n it_o be_v most_o warrantable_a and_o most_o without_o exception_n therefore_o such_o examination_n in_o presbyterian_a church_n be_v not_o sinful_a and_o unlawful_a nor_o deserve_v so_o much_o ignominy_n and_o scorn_n as_o some_o have_v cast_v upon_o it_o 12._o the_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n not_o only_o of_o our_o communion_n with_o christ_n and_o with_o the_o member_n of_o our_o own_o church_n but_o with_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n see_v quest_n 16._o therefore_o they_o who_o will_v partake_v with_o none_o but_o the_o member_n of_o their_o own_o church_n or_o a_o church_n of_o the_o like_a constitution_n nor_o suffer_v their_o member_n to_o partake_v in_o none_o but_o their_o own_o church_n be_v guilty_a of_o the_o great_a breach_n of_o christian_a love_n that_o can_v be_v unsaint_v and_o unchurch_v all_o the_o church_n that_o christ_n have_v upon_o the_o earth_n but_o themselves_o and_o with_o a_o kind_n of_o papal_a pride_n judge_v and_o as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o be_v excommunicate_v all_o other_o church_n contrary_a to_o their_o own_o principle_n that_o say_v no_o one_o church_n have_v power_n over_o another_o 13._o the_o wickedness_n of_o a_o minister_n do_v no_o way_n make_v void_a the_o act_n of_o his_o ministry_n nor_o give_v the_o people_n a_o dispensation_n to_o contemn_v it_o see_v quest_n 18._o 14._o the_o roll_a elder_n office_n be_v so_o clear_o and_o full_o ground_v in_o scripture_n as_o none_o can_v controvert_v it_o but_o he_o who_o spirit_n and_o apprehension_n be_v prepossess_v and_o forestall_v with_o prejudice_n quest_n 21.22_o 15._o the_o power_n and_o work_v of_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v very_o great_a and_o his_o office_n very_o needful_a in_o the_o church_n quest_n 23_o 24._o therefore_o they_o that_o will_v have_v none_o of_o these_o roll_a elder_n over_o they_o but_o leave_v all_o to_o themselves_o and_o their_o liberty_n and_o by_o this_o mean_n be_v not_o only_o single_a member_n or_o officer_n but_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n and_o elder_n and_o all_o this_o generation_n of_o man_n cast_v off_o the_o lord_n government_n be_v son_n of_o korah_n who_o condemnation_n sleep_v not_o etc._n etc._n quest_n 24._o answ_n 1._o quaere_fw-la whether_o some_o other_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o this_o as_o well_o as_o anabaptist_n familist_n etc._n etc._n 16._o if_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v confine_v within_o his_o compass_n the_o wing_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o bishop_n will_v be_v clip_v and_o their_o power_n exceed_o impeach_v quest_n 25._o therefore_o there_o be_v neither_o truth_n or_o modesty_n in_o they_o that_o say_v the_o presbyterian_a government_n which_o be_v manage_v by_o roll_a elder_n as_o well_o as_o the_o congregational_a be_v as_o tyrannical_a as_o prelacy_n and_o as_o antichristian_a as_o popery_n 17._o it_o be_v the_o devil_n subtlety_n to_o disgrace_n divide_v pull_v down_o the_o roll_a elder_n quest_n 23._o let_v they_o therefore_o consider_v who_o work_n they_o do_v and_o what_o reward_n without_o repentance_n they_o be_v like_a to_o have_v who_o drive_v such_o a_o design_n 18._o deacon_n be_v officer_n institute_v by_o christ_n and_o needful_a to_o be_v continue_v in_o the_o church_n quest_n 26._o 19_o the_o maintenance_n of_o minister_n be_v a_o act_n of_o justice_n not_o mercy_n debt_n not_o alm_n quest_n 28._o 20._o officer_n and_o ordinance_n be_v bestow_v upon_o the_o visible_a church_n not_o for_o their_o sake_n but_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o elect_a that_o be_v among_o they_o who_o good_a next_o under_o his_o own_o glory_n christ_n principal_o intend_v quest_n 29._o therefore_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o first_o in_o christ_n intention_n therefore_o the_o visible_a church_n especial_o the_o church_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n as_o such_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o boast_v herself_o in_o her_o privilege_n as_o the_o spouse_n and_o lacie_n and_o queen_n of_o christ_n see_v these_o and_o all_o other_o privilege_n be_v give_v she_o not_o for_o her_o own_o sake_n but_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o elect_a chap._n v._o of_o church_n government_n and_o censure_n question_v 1_o who_o be_v the_o seat_n or_o subject_n of_o church_n rule_n or_o government_n answ_n church_n government_n or_o rule_n be_v place_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n who_o therefore_o be_v call_v ruler_n the_o holy_a ghost_n frequent_o yea_o always_o when_o he_o mention_v church_n rule_n and_o church_n government_n ascribe_v it_o to_o elder_n whereas_o the_o work_n and_o duty_n of_o people_n be_v express_v in_o the_o phrase_n of_o obey_v their_o elder_n and_o submit_v themselves_o to_o they_o in_o the_o lord_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 10._o sect._n 7._o quest_n 2._o how_o be_v church_n government_n to_o be_v consider_v answ_n church_n government_n be_v to_o be_v attend_v either_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o essential_o or_o circumstantial_o of_o it_o mr._n hooker_n part_n 1._o page_n 3._o line_n 18._o quest_n 3._o what_o be_v the_o essential_o of_o church_n government_n answ_n the_o essential_o require_v to_o the_o complete_n of_o church_n government_n be_v partly_o
in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v partly_o in_o the_o ordinance_n that_o be_v dispense_v ibid._n p._n line_n 20._o quest_n 4._o what_o be_v essential_a in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v the_o ordinance_n answ_n in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v the_o kind_n of_o officer_n appoint_v to_o that_o work_n the_o nature_n bound_n and_o limit_n of_o their_o office_n all_o these_o be_v essential_o mr._n hooker_n ibid._n line_n 22._o quest_n 5._o what_o be_v the_o ordinance_n that_o these_o be_v to_o disperse_v answ_n the_o ordinance_n that_o these_o be_v to_o dispense_v be_v preach_v prayer_n seal_n church_n censure_n etc._n etc._n these_o all_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o word_n a_o fetch_v from_o the_o word_n and_o now_o under_o the_o gospel_n they_o be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v the_o same_o in_o all_o place_n among_o all_o people_n at_o all_o time_n in_o all_o succeed_a generation_n until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n ibid._n line_n 25._o quest_n 6._o may_v there_o then_o be_v no_o alteration_n in_o these_o thing_n which_o you_o call_v essential_o answ_n it_o be_v not_o leave_v in_o the_o power_n of_o person_n officer_n church_n nor_o all_o the_o state_n in_o the_o world_n to_o add_v or_o diminish_v or_o alter_v any_o thing_n in_o the_o least_o measure_n but_o as_o god_n do_v appoint_v all_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o those_o institution_n do_v endure_v there_o ever_o as_o scripture_n speak_v until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n when_o the_o same_o power_n which_o appoint_v change_v they_o so_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n where_o be_v to_o expect_v no_o alteration_n christ_n the_o lawgiver_n he_o only_o appoint_v none_o but_o he_o can_v and_o he_o have_v make_v know_v his_o will_n that_o he_o will_v not_o change_v they_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 1._o p._n 5._o l._n 32._o quest_n 7._o what_o be_v the_o circumstantial_o of_o government_n answ_n the_o circumstantial_o of_o discipline_n as_o time_n place_n the_o carrying_z on_o of_o these_o dispensation_n in_o civil_a decency_n suitable_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o thing_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o time_n as_o peace_n and_o persecution_n the_o general_a rule_n of_o these_o be_v in_o the_o word_n deliver_v but_o the_o particular_a application_n admit_v variety_n mutability_n and_o alteration_n according_a as_o necessity_n or_o conveniency_n shall_v appear_v by_o emergent_a occasion_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 1_o page_n 6._o line_n 3._o quest_n 8._o you_o have_v speak_v already_o of_o most_o of_o the_o essential_o of_o church_n government_n namely_o officer_n and_o ordinance_n of_o worship_n but_o what_o say_v you_o of_o church_n censure_n be_v they_o necessary_a answ_n the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n for_o the_o prevent_n remove_v and_o heal_v of_o offence_n in_o the_o church_n for_o the_o reclaim_n and_o gain_v of_o offend_a brethren_n for_o the_o deter_v other_o from_o the_o like_a offence_n for_o purge_v out_o the_o leaven_n which_o may_v infect_v the_o whole_a lump_n for_o vindicate_v the_o honour_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o his_o church_n and_o the_o holy_a profession_n of_o his_o gospel_n and_o for_o prevent_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n which_o may_v just_o fall_v upon_o the_o church_n if_o they_o shall_v suffer_v his_o covenant_n and_o the_o seal_n thereof_o to_o be_v profane_v by_o notorious_a and_o obstinate_a offender_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 14._o sect_n 1._o quest_n 9_o how_o many_o censure_n be_v there_o in_o the_o church_n answ_n three_o the_o first_o admonition_n the_o second_o suspension_n the_o three_o excommunication_n quest_n 10._o what_o be_v admonition_n answ_n admonition_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n the_o first_o more_o private_a when_o the_o offend_a brother_n admonish_v the_o offender_n of_o his_o offence_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n between_o he_o and_o the_o offender_n alone_o the_o second_o less_o private_a and_o yet_o not_o public_a when_o he_o take_v one_o or_o two_o with_o he_o platform_n of_o discipline_n chap._n 14._o sect_n 2._o mr._n cotton_v way_n pag._n 89._o quest_n 11._o but_o what_o if_o the_o offend_a party_n be_v not_o gain_v by_o either_o of_o these_o admonition_n answ_n the_o offend_a brother_n tell_v the_o church_n of_o it_o to_o wit_n in_o god_n way_n mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o way_n pag._n 90._o line_n 12._o quest_n 12._o what_o do_v you_o mean_v by_o tell_v the_o church_n in_o god_n way_n answ_n the_o offend_a brother_n be_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o elder_n to_o tell_v it_o the_o church_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n chap._n sect_n 2._o that_o be_v he_o tell_v the_o elder_n who_o be_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o church_n that_o by_o they_o it_o may_v be_v present_v before_o the_o church_n mr._n cotton_v way_n pag._n 90._o line_n 13._o the_o matter_n must_v first_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o elder_n and_o by_o they_o debate_v and_o deliver_v to_o the_o church_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 3._o p._n 36_o l._n 2._o quest_n 13._o but_o why_o must_v the_o mattor_n be_v first_o bring_v to_o the_o elder_n and_o debate_v by_o they_o answ_n 1._o for_o that_o they_o be_v guide_n and_o leader_n of_o the_o church_n heb._n 13.17_o the_o watchman_n and_o overseer_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o they_o must_v know_v the_o cause_n and_o controversy_n to_o the_o full_a in_o all_o circumstance_n difficulty_n wind_n and_o turn_n thereof_o that_o they_o may_v be_v able_a to_o lead_v the_o congregation_n in_o the_o way_n of_o peace_n and_o truth_n which_o they_o can_v do_v unless_o they_o know_v the_o way_n themselves_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 3._o pag._n 36._o line_n 3._o 2._o to_o they_o it_o appertain_v to_o judge_v whether_o the_o thing_n be_v of_o weight_n and_o worth_n and_o so_o need_v and_o require_v the_o presence_n and_o assistance_n of_o the_o body_n to_o express_v their_o judgement_n against_o they_o and_o the_o party_n guilty_a of_o they_o or_o 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unkindness_n or_o some_o evil_n only_o conceive_v or_o which_o may_v be_v tolerate_v and_o heal_v etc._n etc._n be_v sinful_a and_o unlawful_a see_v chap._n 4._o quest_n 5._o answ_n 2._o therefore_o o_o that_o those_o who_o have_v rend_v themselves_o from_o we_o to_o gather_v themselves_o into_o distinct_a church_n will_v be_v wiâ—ling_a to_o behold_v the_o face_n of_o what_o they_o have_v do_v in_o and_o judge_v it_o by_o this_o friendly_a glass_n and_o repent_v of_o what_o they_o have_v do_v unlawful_o and_o sinful_o 6._o neither_o the_o hypocrisy_n of_o some_o member_n nor_o the_o toleration_n of_o open_a scandal_n nor_o want_v of_o some_o ordinance_n be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o man_n to_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n therefore_o our_o brethren_n can_v allege_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o their_o separation_n on_o from_o the_o church_n whereof_o they_o be_v sometime_o member_n 7._o faithfulness_n of_o brotherly_a love_n in_o church_n relation_n require_v that_o 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