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A17914 A stay against straying. Or An answer to a treatise intituled: The lavvfulnes of hearing the ministers of the Church of England. By John Robinson. Wherein is proved the contrarie, viz: The unlawfulnes of hearing the ministers of all false Churches. By John Canne. Canne, John, d. 1667? 1639 (1639) STC 4575; ESTC S115149 141,377 156

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course_n of_o hear_v be_v no_o ordinance_n leave_v we_o by_o christ_n then_o 〈◊〉_d it_o must_v be_v from_o antichrist_n again_o he_o profess_v they_o 〈…〉_o as_o they_o preach_v and_o preach_v as_o minister_n of_o the_o 〈…〉_o according_a to_o the_o public_a 〈…〉_o be_v to_o speak_v 〈…〉_o form_n religious_a worship_n to_o god_n in_o and_o by_o a_o public_a ordinance_n way_n and_o state_n which_o idolater_n have_v invent_v and_o with_o idolater_n this_o i_o say_v aperto_fw-la pectore_fw-la he_o grant_v to_o the_o full_a and_o no_o marvel_n for_o to_o deny_v it_o be_v a_o audacious_a fiction_n monstrous_a unparel_v presumption_n and_o will_v mark_v a_o man_n out_o for_o a_o athesticall_a familist_n as_o perspicuous_a as_o the_o leprosy_n of_o vzziah_n which_o break_v forth_o in_o his_o forehead_n the_o assumption_n be_v as_o manifest_v for_o 1._o by_o the_o scripture_n 9_o scripture_n deu._n 12._o 30._o levit_fw-la 18._o 3._o exo._n 23._o 24._o levit._fw-la 9_o 27._o 28._o deu._n 14._o 1_o levit._fw-la 19_o 17._o gen._n 35._o 2._o 3._o esa_n 27._o 9_o we_o be_v prohibit_v from_o all_o conformity_n with_o idolater_n in_o any_o of_o their_o way_n order_n and_o manner_n of_o worship_n and_o religious_a observation_n it_o be_v the_o custom_n 15._o custom_n herodot_n in_o thalia_n becan_n in_o analog_n vet_z &_o nov_n test_n c._n 15._o of_o the_o arabian_n and_o other_o heathen_n in_o imitation_n of_o dyonisius_n that_o be_v bacchus_n to_o round_o the_o corner_n of_o their_o head_n now_o this_o the_o israelite_n may_v not_o do_v 27._o do_v levit._fw-la 19_o 27._o though_o in_o itself_o a_o indifferent_a thing_n 17._o thing_n calvin_n in_o levit._n 19_o 17._o because_o god_n will_v not_o have_v they_o to_o be_v like_o idolater_n this_o also_o may_v be_v further_o prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o learned_a man_n for_o to_o have_v any_o thing_n common_a with_o idolater_n or_o to_o serve_v god_n after_o any_o way_n of_o they_o or_o to_o take_v up_o and_o make_v use_n of_o 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papist_n 10._o papist_n bellar._n de_fw-fr monach._n c._n 40._o &_o the_o effect_n sacr_n l._n 2._o c._n 31._o sect._n 10._o rhemist_n annot_v on_o 1._o cor._n 6._o 14._o &_o 1_o timot._fw-la 6._o sect._n 4._o in_o apoc._n 1._o 10._o and_o schoolman_n m._n schoolman_n aquin._n 1._o 2_o a._n q._n 102._o art_n 6._o c._n 6._o m._n yea_o many_o jew-doctor_n 27._o jew-doctor_n see_v mr._n ainsworth_n in_o levit._n 19_o 27._o some_o council_n 73._o council_n toledo_n can._n 5._o &_o 40._o laod._n c._n 38._o brac._n can._n 32._o &_o 73._o have_v thus_o conclude_v and_o the_o cannon-law_n 17._o cannon-law_n dear_n par._n 2._o caus_n 26._o quaest_n 7._o c._n 13._o etc._n etc._n 14._o etc._n etc._n 17._o speak_v so_o too_o and_o here_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o observe_v that_o be_v the_o ground_n true_a which_o
to_o use_v the_o pistler_n word_n it_o be_v well_o to_o be_v mark_v by_o the_o reader_n how_o the_o church_n when_o these_o thing_n be_v write_v enjoy_v as_o a_o pastor_n so_o a_o judicious_a ruling_n elder_a too_o and_o their_o company_n great_a by_o far_a then_o it_o be_v when_o that_o letter_n be_v frame_v such_o as_o write_v of_o the_o government_n of_o commonwealth_n do_v hold_v it_o for_o a_o rule_n that_o to_o redress_v abuse_n in_o any_o state_n a_o better_a way_n can_v be_v take_v then_o to_o have_v thing_n bring_v to_o their_o first_o institution_n hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o venetian_n have_v a_o supreme_a magistracy_n which_o they_o call_v a_o syndicate_v that_o once_o in_o a_o few_o year_n ●_o survey_v all_o the_o office_n and_o dignity_n in_o their_o wealth_n that_o so_o all_o thing_n may_v continue_v and_o stand_v entire_a according_a to_o the_o rule_n and_o precept_n of_o their_o first_o constitution_n and_o ordinance_n if_o the_o pistler_n have_v desire_v the_o 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this_o hear_n lawful_a and_o so_o have_v do_v along_o time_n what_o of_o this_o be_v the_o thing_n he_o better_a for_o that_o in_o no_o wi●e_o for_o not_o custom_n or_o multitude_n must_v be_v follow_v but_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n word_n walk_v you_o not_o in_o the_o statute_n of_o your_o father_n 49._o i._o of_o the_o church_n l._n 2._o c._n 5._o p._n 49._o neither_o observe_v their_o judgment_n nor_o defi●e_v yourselves_o with_o their_o idol_n 20._o idol_n ezech._n 20._o the_o like_a precept_n we_o have_v in_o 3_o ●ch_n 11._o follow_v not_o that_o which_o be_v evil_a but_o that_o which_o be_v good_a cyprian_a and_o other_o of_o the_o father_n as_o they_o be_v call_v speak_v well_o to_o this_o purpose_n we_o must_v 63._o must_v non_fw-la debemus_fw-la attende●e_fw-la quid_fw-la alius_fw-la ante_fw-la nos_fw-la f●cerit_fw-la aut_fw-la faciendum_fw-la putaverit_fw-la sed_fw-la quid_fw-la ante_fw-la omnes_fw-la est_fw-la christus_fw-la prio_fw-la fecerit_fw-la cyp●_n epist_n 63._o not_o regard_v what_o other_o do_v be_v before_o we_o or_o think_v fit_a to_o be_v do_v but_o what_o christ_n do_v who_o be_v before_o all_o we_o must_v 74._o must_v non_fw-fr est_fw-fr de_fw-fr consuetudene_a praescribendum_fw-la sed_fw-la ratione_fw-la vin_fw-fr cendum_fw-la epist_n 74._o not_o prescribe_v upon_o custom_n but_o persuade_v by_o reason_n whatsoever_o vi●g_n whatsoever_o tertullian_n lib_n the_o vi●g_n savore_v against_o the_o truth_n it_o be_v heresy_n be_v the_o practice_n thereof_o never_o so_o ancient_a non_fw-la illa_fw-la tantum_fw-la in_o religione_fw-la fugienda_fw-la quae_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la adversantur_fw-la sed_fw-la ea_fw-la etiam_fw-la quae_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la praescripta_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la ab_fw-la acutissimis_fw-la hominibus_fw-la excogitata_fw-la a_o doctissimis_fw-la defensa_fw-la et_fw-la diuturna_fw-la consu_fw-la etudine_fw-la recepta_fw-la not_o only_o in_o religion_n must_v we_o avoid_v all_o thing_n contrary_a 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