the_o verity_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n say_v siâ—e_fw-la deus_fw-la per_fw-la seipsum_fw-la miro_fw-la modo_fw-la etc._n etc._n whether_o god_n do_v work_v these_o thing_n by_o himself_o in_o that_o marvellous_a manner_n â—_o whereby_o he_o work_v temporal_a thing_n be_v himself_o eternal_a or_o whether_o he_o do_v the_o self_n same_o thing_n by_o his_o minister_n or_o whether_o he_o do_v some_o of_o they_o by_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o martyr_n as_o he_o do_v by_o man_n while_o they_o be_v yet_o here_o in_o body_n or_o all_o by_o angel_n who_o he_o command_v invisible_o immutable_o and_o without_o a_o body_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o martyr_n be_v do_v only_o by_o their_o prayer_n and_o impetration_n &_o not_o also_o by_o their_o operation_n or_o whether_o some_o thing_n be_v do_v by_o these_o mean_n &_o some_o by_o other_o which_o can_v by_o any_o mean_n be_v comprehend_v by_o mortal_a man_n ei_fw-la profectò_fw-la haec_fw-la attestantur_fw-la fidei_fw-la etc._n etc._n all_o these_o true_o do_v give_v testimony_n to_o that_o faith_n wherein_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v preach_v 16._o thus_o discourse_v this_o holy_a father_n acknowledge_v as_o you_o see_v the_o imbecility_n of_o man_n understanding_n to_o comprehend_v the_o manner_n how_o almighty_a god_n do_v work_v these_o supernatural_a effect_n although_o he_o doubt_v not_o of_o the_o effect_n of_o themselves_o elsewhere_o and_o yet_o forsooth_o m._n andrews_n must_v either_o know_v how_o saint_n do_v hear_v we_o or_o else_o he_o will_v deny_v that_o they_o hear_v we_o notwithstanding_o the_o know_a and_o common_a experience_n that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v always_o have_v thereof_o to_o which_o purpose_n also_o it_o may_v be_v observe_v that_o he_o confess_v himself_o verâ—â—_n elsewhere_o that_o god_n be_v wont_n miraculous_o to_o relieve_v those_o that_o pray_v at_o the_o tomb_n of_o martyr_n and_o yet_o i_o be_o sure_a he_o know_v not_o how_o the_o same_o be_v wrought_v i_o mean_v whether_o god_n do_v it_o by_o himself_o or_o by_o the_o 〈…〉_z of_o the_o martyr_n 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n 〈…〉_z and_o sometime_o by_o 〈…〉_z why_o then_o do_v he_o deny_v here_o that_o sayntâ—_n hear_v we_o because_o he_o be_v not_o sure_a how_o they_o hear_v we_o so_o as_o thou_o see_v good_a reader_n what_o a_o wise_a inference_n he_o have_v make_v with_o his_o proinde_fw-la when_o he_o say_v proinde_fw-la aâ—diant_a necnâ—_n &_o therefore_o a_o man_n be_v not_o sure_a whether_o the_o saint_n hear_v he_o hoc_fw-la because_o he_o be_v undertayne_a quâ—_n natione_fw-la audiant_fw-la compellantâ—â—â—_n by_o what_o â—eanes_n or_o in_o what_o manner_n they_o hear_v he_o when_o he_o call_v upon_o they_o 17._o therefore_o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o our_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o glass_n of_o the_o divine_a essence_n and_o the_o sight_n of_o all_o thing_n therein_o be_v more_o subtle_a than_o solid_a and_o not_o sear_a enough_o to_o our_o selâ—es_n found_v it_o will_v 〈◊〉_d import_n though_o it_o 〈…〉_z see_v that_o we_o do_v not_o thereon_o ground_v our_o doctrine_n that_o saint_n hear_v or_o know_v ouâ—_n prayer_n 〈…〉_z the_o custom_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n which_o pray_v to_o saint_n 〈◊〉_d therefore_o believe_v that_o they_o hear_v we_o and_o partly_o upon_o evident_a experience_n of_o the_o benefit_n that_o by_o god_n merciful_a providence_n and_o ordinance_n man_n do_v receive_v by_o they_o and_o partly_o also_o upon_o the_o conformity_n thereof_o to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o teach_v not_o only_o that_o the_o angelâ—_n in_o heaven_n do_v rejoice_v at_o the_o repentance_n of_o sinner_n which_o they_o can_v not_o do_v if_o they_o do_v not_o kneeâ—_n 1â—_n it_o but_o also_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a be_v glorify_v 〈◊〉_d aequales_fw-la angelis_n 20._o equal_a to_o angel_n and_o consequent_o have_v the_o like_a knowledge_n that_o they_o have_v beside_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o the_o prophet_n of_o god_n do_v see_v the_o heart_n and_o thought_n of_o man_n 9_o and_o know_v thing_n far_o distant_a from_o themâ—_n samuel_n tell_v unto_o saul_n all_o that_o he_o have_v in_o his_o hart_n 5._o and_o elizâ—â—s_n be_v absent_a see_v hiâ—_n servant_n gâ—â—zi_n take_v gift_n of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o syrians_n and_o discover_v also_o all_o that_o which_o the_o king_n of_o syria_n treat_v in_o his_o cabinet_n 7._o also_o s._n steven_n be_v on_o earth_n do_v see_v our_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n on_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o his_o father_n in_o heaven_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v absurd_a to_o imagine_v that_o the_o glorify_a saint_n in_o heaven_n can_v not_o see_v or_o know_v what_o be_v do_v on_o earth_n especial_o such_o thing_n as_o concern_v themselves_o and_o the_o honour_n that_o be_v do_v unto_o they_o for_o god_n great_a glory_n and_o the_o prayer_n that_o be_v direct_v to_o they_o for_o the_o relief_n of_o god_n servant_n last_o s._n john_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n signify_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n do_v offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n â—â—_o which_o they_o can_v not_o do_v if_o they_o do_v not_o understand_v and_o know_v man_n prayer_n 18._o furthermore_o this_o doctrine_n be_v also_o ground_v upon_o the_o clear_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n who_o teach_v it_o express_o 11._o as_o s._n athanasius_n who_o say_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o saint_n earth_n &_o post_fw-la mortem_fw-la &_o in_o die_v judicij_fw-la cognoscent_fw-la omne_fw-la shall_v know_v all_o thing_n both_o after_o their_o death_n and_o in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o nullus_fw-la est_fw-la say_v s._n basil_n ex_fw-la hijs_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la singula_fw-la ubique_fw-la consideret_fw-la there_o be_v none_o of_o these_o he_o speak_v of_o angel_n and_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a who_o do_v not_o consider_v every_o thing_n every_o where_o beside_o that_o he_o call_v the_o 40._o martyr_n commune_v humani_fw-la generis_fw-la custodes_fw-la the_o common_a guardian_n or_o keeper_n of_o humane_a kind_n medium_n s._n ambrose_n also_o say_v that_o martyr_n be_v praeâ—ules_n &_o spectatores_fw-la actuum_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la the_o governors_n and_o beholder_n of_o our_o action_n 19_o in_o like_o manner_n s._n hieromâ—_n teach_v â—â—_z that_o it_o be_v write_v of_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n si_fw-la quuntur_fw-la agnum_fw-la quocumque_fw-la ierit_fw-la they_o follow_v the_o lamb_n wheresoever_o he_o goethe_v and_o then_o he_o add_v si_fw-la agnuâ—_fw-la ubique_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o the_o lamb_n â—e_v every_o be_v therefore_o it_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v that_o those_o also_o who_o be_v with_o the_o lamb_n be_v every_o where_o and_o see_v that_o devil_n go_v all_o the_o world_n over_o and_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o exceed_a great_a celerity_n be_v every_o where_o present_a shall_v martyr_n after_o they_o have_v shed_v their_o blood_n for_o christ_n be_v shut_v up_o as_o it_o be_v in_o a_o coffer_n that_o they_o can_v get_v out_o so_o he_o theodoret_n also_o give_v to_o martyr_n the_o title_n of_o deuce_n principes_fw-la propugnatores_fw-la &_o custodes_fw-la hominum_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o captayn_n the_o prince_n 8._o the_o defender_n and_o guardian_n of_o man_n by_o who_o say_v he_o those_o mischief_n and_o misery_n which_o devil_n do_v inflict_v upon_o we_o be_v avert_v from_o us._n s._n chrysostome_n call_v s._n peter_n corinth_n and_o s._n paul_n and_o patron_n and_o protector_n of_o the_o emperor_n whereupon_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o those_o bless_a apostle_n and_o other_o saint_n do_v understand_v the_o action_n and_o necessity_n of_o those_o who_o they_o protect_v and_o defend_v â—â—_o 20._o moreover_o s._n augustine_n discourse_v how_o the_o saint_n shall_v see_v god_n in_o heaven_n after_o the_o resurrection_n and_o whether_o they_o shall_v see_v he_o with_o their_o corporal_a eye_n teach_v by_o the_o way_n that_o they_o shall_v then_o see_v all_o thing_n with_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o spirit_n etiam_fw-la unde_fw-la sunt_fw-la corpore_fw-la absentes_fw-la even_o whence_o they_o be_v absent_a in_o body_n and_o this_o he_o prove_v ample_o by_o the_o example_n of_o elizaeus_n who_o be_v absent_a from_o his_o servant_n giezi_n see_v he_o take_v gift_n of_o naaman_n â—_o and_o therefore_o say_v unto_o he_o nun_n cor_fw-la meum_fw-la in_o praesenti_fw-la erat_fw-la etc._n etc._n be_v not_o my_o hart_n present_a with_o thou_o when_o the_o man_n come_v from_o his_o chariot_n to_o meet_v thou_o and_o thou_o take_v the_o money_n whereupon_o s._n augustine_n say_v cord_n svo_fw-la ergo_fw-la se_fw-la dixit_fw-la hoc_fw-la vidisse_fw-la propheta_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o prophet_n say_v that_o he_o see_v this_o with_o his_o hart_n be_v no_o doubt_n admirable_o help_v by_o almighty_a god_n but_o how_o much_o
more_o shall_v all_o man_n than_o abound_v in_o this_o gift_n when_o god_n shall_v be_v omne_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la all_o in_o all_o thus_o discourse_v this_o learned_a father_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o saint_n after_o their_o resurrection_n videbunt_fw-la omne_fw-la shall_v see_v all_o thing_n with_o their_o spiritual_a eye_n etiam_fw-la unde_fw-la sunt_fw-la corpore_fw-la absentes_fw-la even_o whence_o they_o be_v absent_a in_o body_n 21._o and_o this_o must_v needs_o be_v understand_v in_o like_a manner_n of_o glorified_a soul_n before_o the_o resurrection_n for_o that_o the_o glorification_n of_o their_o body_n although_o it_o shall_v increase_v their_o joy_n and_o glory_n yet_o shall_v not_o increase_v their_o vision_n of_o god_n or_o knowledge_n which_o they_o have_v now_o as_o perfect_v as_o they_o shall_v have_v after_o their_o resurrection_n final_o to_o omit_v many_o other_o father_n which_o may_v be_v allege_v s._n gregory_n say_v 14._o that_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v believe_v that_o quae_fw-la intus_fw-la claritatem_fw-la dei_fw-la vident_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o soul_n which_o see_v into_o the_o light_n or_o brightness_n of_o god_n be_v ignorant_a of_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v abroad_o 33._o and_o again_o in_o another_o place_n quia_fw-la in_o illa_fw-la aeterna_fw-la haereditate_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o as_o much_o as_o in_o that_o eternal_a inheritance_n all_o man_n do_v see_v god_n with_o a_o common_a clarity_n or_o brightness_n what_o be_v there_o which_o they_o can_v know_v who_o know_v he_o that_o know_v all_o thing_n thus_o say_v s._n gregory_n teach_v as_o you_o see_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n know_v all_o thing_n in_o earth_n and_o yield_v the_o self_n same_o reason_n thereof_o which_o you_o have_v hear_v m._n andrews_n say_v be_v inaudita_fw-la patribus_fw-la never_o hear_v of_o among_o the_o father_n to_o wit_n that_o because_o they_o see_v and_o know_v god_n therefore_o they_o see_v and_o know_v all_o thing_n in_o he_o in_o who_o omne_fw-la constant_a say_v the_o apostle_n all_o thing_n do_v consist_v 22._o so_o as_o howsoever_o the_o ancient_a father_n may_v have_v differ_v in_o opinion_n concern_v the_o manner_n how_o the_o saint_n know_v thing_n do_v on_o earth_n grant_n m._n andrews_n may_v see_v that_o they_o agree_v touch_v the_o effect_n which_o also_o be_v so_o conform_v to_o reason_n that_o he_o can_v with_o reason_n deny_v it_o especial_o see_v he_o himself_o grant_v that_o the_o saint_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o of_o their_o charity_n &_o love_n towards_o us._n for_o if_o they_o love_v we_o so_o that_o as_o 57_o s._n cyprian_n say_v de_fw-la nostra_fw-la salute_v sunt_fw-la solliciti_fw-la they_o be_v careful_a for_o our_o salvation_n and_o as_o m._n andrews_n 9_o confess_v they_o do_v indeed_o pray_v for_o we_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v grant_v that_o this_o their_o love_n and_o care_n do_v include_v a_o desire_n to_o know_v our_o necessity_n whereupon_o it_o also_o follow_v that_o they_o do_v know_v themâ—_n for_o if_o their_o desire_n shall_v not_o be_v satisfy_v they_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o happy_a and_o bless_a as_o the_o perfection_n of_o their_o beatitude_n do_v require_v beside_o that_o see_v almighty_a god_n do_v glorify_v they_o not_o only_o in_o heaven_n with_o the_o vision_n of_o his_o deity_n but_o also_o in_o earth_n with_o many_o miracle_n do_v at_o their_o monument_n as_o m._n andrews_n himself_o confess_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o place_n of_o s._n basil_n it_o be_v absurd_a to_o think_v that_o they_o do_v not_o know_v as_o well_o the_o particular_a favour_n that_o god_n do_v to_o man_n for_o their_o fake_n verè_fw-la as_o also_o the_o honour_n and_o glory_n that_o redound_v thereof_o both_o to_o god_n and_o they_o without_o which_o knowledge_n their_o beatitude_n as_o i_o have_v say_v shall_v not_o be_v complete_a 23._o now_o then_o see_v that_o our_o doctrine_n that_o saint_n do_v hear_v prayer_n or_o understand_v our_o prayer_n be_v ground_v upon_o such_o sure_a foundation_n as_o here_o i_o have_v declare_v to_o wit_n the_o continual_a custom_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n to_o pray_v to_o they_o the_o manifest_a experience_n of_o benefit_n receive_v by_o they_o the_o conformity_n thereof_o to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n with_o the_o uniform_a and_o express_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n &_o last_o upon_o reason_n itself_o how_o little_a reason_n have_v m._n andrews_n to_o deny_v it_o upon_o no_o better_a reason_n then_o because_o it_o be_v uncertain_a in_o what_o manner_n they_o hear_v we_o especial_o see_v i_o have_v also_o evident_o prove_v that_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o manner_n 14._o mean_n or_o cause_n of_o any_o thing_n can_v nothing_o derogate_v from_o the_o certaynty_a of_o the_o effect_n so_o as_o he_o must_v either_o bring_v some_o more_o solid_a argument_n against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n or_o else_o he_o shall_v but_o discover_v both_o his_o own_o imbecility_n and_o the_o weakness_n if_o his_o cause_n 24._o and_o therefore_o he_o have_v reason_n to_o seek_v some_o better_a reason_n andrews_n which_o he_o do_v seem_v to_o put_v the_o case_n that_o it_o be_v true_a yea_o most_o manifest_a that_o saint_n do_v hear_v our_o prayer_n yet_o ne_fw-la sic_fw-la quidem_fw-la say_v he_o audemus_fw-la vota_fw-la nostra_fw-la ad_fw-la illos_fw-la precesque_fw-la dirigere_fw-la we_o dare_v not_o for_o all_o that_o direct_v our_o vow_n verum_fw-la and_o prayer_n unto_o they_o and_o hereof_o he_o yield_v this_o reason_n cum_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la â—a_n de_fw-mi re_fw-mi nullum_fw-la acceperimus_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la autem_fw-la acceperimus_fw-la in_o lege_fw-la disertis_fw-la verbis_fw-la 12._o quod_fw-la tibi_fw-la praecepero_fw-la hoc_fw-la tantùm_fw-la facies_fw-la we_o dare_v not_o say_v he_o pray_v unto_o they_o because_o we_o have_v receive_v no_o precept_n concern_v that_o point_n scripture_n but_o have_v receive_v a_o precept_n in_o the_o law_n in_o express_a word_n what_o i_o shall_v command_v thou_o that_o only_o thou_o shall_v do_v so_o he_o and_o then_o conclude_v id_fw-la tantùm_fw-la audemus_fw-la facere_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o dare_v do_v that_o only_o whereof_o we_o have_v a_o precept_n bring_v you_o a_o precept_n and_o we_o will_v straight_o invocate_v they_o with_o you_o thus_o argue_v he_o 25._o and_o have_v he_o not_o trow_v you_o very_o well_o prove_v now_o that_o nothing_o may_v be_v practise_v in_o god_n church_n without_o a_o express_v write_v precept_n scripture_n who_o will_v think_v that_o a_o doctor_n of_o divinity_n shall_v have_v so_o little_a understanding_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o to_o infer_v this_o conclusion_n upon_o the_o place_n that_o he_o allege_v which_o concern_v only_o the_o sacrifice_n that_o god_n require_v and_o command_v to_o be_v offer_v unto_o he_o in_o the_o mosaycall_a law_n as_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o very_a circumstance_n of_o the_o place_n in_o the_o 12._o chapter_n of_o deuteronomy_n from_o whence_o that_o precept_n be_v take_v for_o when_o almighty_a god_n have_v admonish_v the_o people_n to_o beware_v that_o they_o do_v not_o imitate_v the_o nation_n who_o land_n they_o shall_v possess_v in_o their_o abominable_a sacrifice_n say_v for_o all_o the_o abomination_n that_o our_o lord_n do_v abhor_v have_v they_o do_v to_o their_o god_n 12._o offer_v their_o son_n and_o daughter_n andrews_n and_o burn_v they_o with_o fire_n after_o this_o i_o say_v follow_v immediate_o what_o i_o command_v thou_o that_o only_o do_v to_o our_o lord_n neither_o add_v any_o thing_n nor_o diminish_v thus_o say_v almighty_a god_n as_o who_o will_v say_v whereas_o the_o gentill_n who_o land_n thou_o shall_v possess_v do_v worship_v their_o god_n with_o most_o abominable_a sacrifice_n and_o ceremony_n sacrifice_v their_o own_o child_n by_o fire_n do_v not_o thou_o imitate_v they_o therein_o but_o offer_v thou_o to_o i_o in_o sacrifice_n only_o that_o which_o i_o do_v command_v thou_o to_o wit_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v ordain_v and_o prescrybed_n in_o the_o law_n to_o that_o end_n 26._o and_o this_o no_o doubt_n be_v the_o clear_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o those_o word_n for_o if_o they_o shall_v be_v understand_v as_o m._n andrews_n take_v they_o to_o exclude_v the_o practice_n of_o all_o thing_n whatsoever_o that_o be_v not_o express_o command_v in_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o law_n 4._o than_o the_o solmne_v feast_n ordain_v afterward_o by_o mardochaeus_n judith_n and_o the_o maccabee_n have_v be_v unlawful_a which_o nevertheless_o be_v approve_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o last_o of_o the_o 3._o to_o wit_n the_o feast_n of_o the_o dedication_n institute_v by_o the_o maccabee_n 10._o be_v honour_v by_o our_o saviour_n himself_o with_o his_o presence_n but_o let_v we_o put_v the_o case_n that_o this_o commandment_n of_o almighty_a god_n be_v general_a touch_v the_o service_n and_o worship_n of_o god_n in_o the_o old_a law_n argument_n will_n m._n andrew_n infer_v thereupon_o that_o
nothing_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v or_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n whereof_o there_o be_v no_o commandment_n or_o example_n in_o scripture_n which_o you_o have_v hear_v seq_n already_o confute_v as_o well_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n and_o father_n as_o also_o by_o our_o adversaries_n own_o seq_n doctrine_n approve_v the_o practice_n of_o thing_n not_o command_v any_o where_o in_o scripture_n as_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n the_o use_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n &_o godfather_n and_o godmother_n in_o baptism_n whereto_o i_o may_v add_v the_o tradition_n of_o keep_v sunday_n holy_a day_n in_o it_o memory_n of_o the_o resurrection_n of_o our_o saviour_n with_o abstinence_n from_o servile_a work_n also_o the_o observation_n of_o easter_n pentecost_n and_o such_o feast_n and_o diverse_a other_o thing_n consist_v in_o matter_n of_o practice_n 56._o if_o then_o they_o approve_v and_o practise_v these_o thing_n although_o they_o be_v not_o command_v or_o ordain_v in_o scripture_n what_o reason_n have_v they_o to_o reject_v prayer_n to_o saint_n because_o there_o be_v no_o commandment_n or_o example_n of_o it_o in_o scripture_n when_o nevertheless_o it_o be_v most_o conform_a thereto_o and_o deduce_v from_o it_o as_o i_o have_v partly_o show_v 31._o already_o by_o a_o inafallible_a rule_n of_o s._n augustine_n see_v it_o be_v approve_v by_o that_o church_n which_o the_o scripture_n command_v we_o to_o 18._o hear_v believe_v and_o obey_v besides_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a in_o scripture_n that_o charity_n which_o move_v and_o oblige_v man_n to_o pray_v one_o for_o another_o in_o this_o life_n 1â—_n nunquam_fw-la excidit_fw-la as_o the_o apostle_n teach_v never_o decay_v but_o be_v more_o perfect_a in_o the_o next_o life_n it_o follow_v not_o only_o that_o the_o saint_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o which_o m._n andrews_n grant_v but_o also_o that_o we_o may_v crave_v their_o prayer_n saint_n for_o it_o be_v most_o absurd_a to_o think_v that_o we_o may_v not_o request_v they_o to_o do_v that_o which_o be_v most_o correspondent_a to_o their_o charity_n and_o they_o will_v most_o willing_o perform_v 57_o furthermore_o see_v that_o the_o scripture_n do_v teach_v we_o to_o crave_v the_o prayer_n and_o help_n of_o our_o brethren_n live_v there_o can_v be_v no_o reason_n imagine_v why_o we_o shall_v not_o also_o do_v the_o same_o when_o they_o be_v glorify_v in_o heaven_n but_o either_o because_o they_o do_v not_o hear_v or_o understand_v our_o prayer_n or_o because_o they_o be_v not_o willing_a or_o not_o able_a to_o help_v we_o but_o that_o they_o hear_v we_o i_o have_v sufficient_o prove_v already_o and_o have_v also_o answer_v m._n andrews_n his_o cavil_n concern_v the_o same_o and_o he_o neither_o deny_v nor_o seem_v to_o doubt_v either_o that_o they_o be_v willing_a to_o succour_v we_o 24._o consider_v the_o perfection_n of_o their_o charity_n or_o yet_o that_o they_o be_v able_a to_o do_v it_o see_v he_o grant_v they_o do_v pray_v for_o we_o &_o if_o he_o shall_v deny_v it_o or_o that_o their_o prayer_n may_v avayle_v we_o as_o vigilantius_n &_o his_o follower_n do_v in_o time_n past_a sanctis_fw-la and_o zuinglius_fw-la with_o other_o sectary_n have_v do_v in_o these_o our_o day_n he_o may_v easy_o be_v convince_v by_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o witness_n that_o god_n grant_v the_o petition_n of_o his_o servant_n even_o when_o they_o be_v here_o subject_a to_o sin_n 22._o and_o misery_n and_o have_v mercy_n on_o sinner_n for_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o just_a as_o well_o dead_a as_o live_v and_o therefore_o the_o prophet_n pray_v ne_fw-la auferas_fw-la misericordiam_fw-la tuam_fw-la etc._n etc._n do_v not_o take_v away_o thy_o mercy_n from_o we_o o_o lord_n 3._o for_o thy_o belove_a abraham_n and_o thy_o servant_n isaac_n and_o thy_o holy_a israel_n and_o we_o read_v in_o the_o book_n of_o king_n that_o for_o david_n sake_n god_n do_v mitigate_v his_o wrath_n towards_o solomon_n 11._o and_o save_v also_o the_o kingdom_n of_o juda_n from_o destruction_n in_o the_o reign_n of_o joram_n 21._o and_o ezechias_n 19_o 58._o in_o like_o manner_n god_n pardon_v job_n friend_n for_o his_o sake_n 42._o and_o direct_v they_o unto_o he_o to_o crave_v his_o prayer_n for_o they_o also_o for_o the_o prayer_n of_o moses_n he_o have_v mercy_n on_o the_o people_n 32._o and_o the_o like_v we_o read_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n whereupon_o s._n hierome_n say_v to_o vigilantius_n thus_o vigilantium_fw-la si_fw-mi apostoli_fw-la &_o martyr_n etc._n etc._n if_o the_o apostle_n and_o martyr_n be_v here_o in_o body_n can_v pray_v for_o other_o while_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v careful_a for_o themselves_o how_o much_o more_o may_v they_o do_v it_o after_o their_o crown_n victory_n and_o triumph_n one_o moses_n obtain_v of_o god_n pardon_n for_o six_o hundred_o thousand_o arm_a man_n and_o steven_n the_o follower_n of_o his_o lord_n 32._o and_o first_o martyr_n in_o christ_n crave_v pardon_n for_o his_o persecutor_n and_o shall_v they_o now_o be_v able_a to_o do_v less_o when_o they_o be_v with_o christ_n 7._o paul_n the_o apostle_n say_v that_o 276._o man_n life_n be_v give_v he_o in_o the_o ship_n 27._o and_o therefore_o now_o when_o he_o be_v dissolve_v and_o with_o christ_n will_v he_o hold_v his_o peace_n and_o shall_v he_o not_o be_v able_a so_o much_o as_o to_o open_v his_o mouth_n for_o those_o which_o have_v believe_v by_o his_o preach_n throughout_o the_o world_n and_o shall_v vigilantius_n a_o live_a dog_n be_v better_a than_o a_o dead_a lion_n thus_o argue_v s._n hierome_n by_o a_o argument_n a_fw-fr fortiori_fw-la ground_v on_o the_o scripture_n to_o show_v the_o extreme_a absurdity_n of_o vigilantius_n the_o heretic_n who_o deny_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o and_o be_v able_a to_o help_v us._n 59_o and_o this_o ability_n of_o saint_n to_o help_v man_n be_v to_o be_v ascribe_v not_o only_o to_o the_o effect_n of_o their_o prayer_n but_o also_o to_o their_o power_n 1â—_n authority_n and_o dignity_n see_v that_o christ_n who_o be_v the_o king_n of_o king_n 28._o &_o lord_n of_o lord_n &_o have_v all_o power_n in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n give_v he_o by_o his_o father_n power_n do_v in_o the_o apocalips_n promise_n to_o his_o saint_n a_o communication_n and_o participation_n of_o his_o own_o kingdom_n dominion_n and_o power_n over_o man_n qui_fw-la vicerit_fw-la say_v he_o dabo_fw-la sedere_fw-la mecum_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o that_o shall_v overcome_v i_o will_v give_v unto_o he_o to_o sit_v with_o i_o in_o my_o throne_n as_o i_o also_o have_v overcome_v and_o sit_v with_o my_o father_n in_o his_o throne_n dabo_fw-la ei_fw-la potestatem_fw-la super_fw-la gentes_fw-la etc._n etc._n 3_o i_o will_v give_v he_o power_n over_o nation_n 2._o and_o he_o shall_v rule_v they_o etc._n etc._n and_o according_a to_o this_o promise_n of_o our_o saviour_n the_o saint_n also_o say_v to_o he_o in_o the_o apocalips_n 5._o redimisti_fw-la nos_fw-la deo_fw-la in_o sanguine_fw-la tuo_fw-la etc._n etc._n thou_o have_v redeem_v we_o to_o god_n in_o thy_o blood_n and_o have_v make_v we_o to_o our_o god_n a_o kingdom_n and_o priest_n and_o we_o shall_v reign_v upon_o the_o earth_n and_o this_o may_v be_v confirm_v out_o of_o the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n 3â—_n which_o say_v that_o the_o just_a when_o they_o shall_v be_v glorify_v iudicabunt_fw-la nationes_fw-la &_o dominabuntur_fw-la populis_fw-la etc._n etc._n shall_v judge_v nation_n and_o shall_v have_v dominion_n over_o people_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n the_o psalmist_n say_v speak_v of_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n saint_n exultabunt_fw-la sancti_fw-la in_o gloria_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o saint_n shall_v exult_v 14â—_n and_o rejoice_v in_o glory_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v have_v two_o edge_a sword_n in_o their_o hand_n to_o take_v revenge_n upon_o nation_n and_o to_o chastise_v people_n to_o tie_v their_o king_n in_o fetter_n and_o their_o noble_a man_n in_o iron_n manacle_n etc._n etc._n thus_o say_v the_o royal_a prophet_n 60._o and_o albeit_o this_o shall_v be_v special_o 19_o and_o most_o manifest_o fulfil_v at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n â—2_n when_o the_o saint_n of_o god_n shall_v assist_v our_o saviour_n in_o the_o judgement_n country_n and_o condemnation_n of_o the_o wicked_a yet_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o that_o also_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n it_o be_v verify_v in_o the_o power_n and_o dominion_n that_o god_n impart_v to_o his_o saint_n give_v they_o the_o protection_n of_o city_n country_n and_o man_n as_o it_o appear_v evident_o by_o innumerable_a example_n which_o may_v be_v allege_v of_o kingdom_n and_o city_n defend_v god_n servant_n relieve_v and_o his_o enemy_n destroy_v by_o they_o 19_o for_o which_o cause_n the_o ancient_a father_n do_v worthy_o call_v they_o the_o keeper_n of_o human_a kind_n governor_n of_o
forth_o as_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o government_n of_o his_o church_n which_o he_o have_v commit_v to_o his_o charge_n in_o which_o respect_n it_o may_v true_o be_v say_v that_o the_o light_n of_o the_o church_n proceed_v not_o only_o from_o christ_n but_o also_o from_o he_o as_o from_o the_o head_n thereof_o under_o christ_n and_o that_o by_o his_o authority_n it_o be_v spread_v every_o where_o throughout_o the_o church_n 9_o and_o this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v good_a the_o similitude_n according_a to_o the_o intention_n of_o s._n cyprian_n who_o only_o speak_v here_o of_o the_o church_n as_o of_o a_o body_n receive_v all_o the_o unity_n of_o her_o several_a &_o many_o part_n from_o the_o head_n as_o the_o light_n which_o be_v spread_v thoughout_n the_o world_n receive_v unity_n from_o the_o sun_n &_o therefore_o he_o argue_v thus_o in_o substance_n head_n as_o the_o light_n of_o the_o sun_n disperse_v over_o the_o earth_n though_o it_o have_v many_o beam_n yet_o be_v but_o one_o light_n by_o reason_n that_o it_o proceed_v from_o one_o sun_n so_o also_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n disperse_v by_o many_o member_n over_o the_o whole_a world_n be_v but_o one_o body_n because_o it_o proceed_v from_o one_o head_n which_o reason_n he_o give_v yet_o more_o express_o in_o the_o two_o other_o similitude_n that_o immediate_o follow_v of_o a_o tree_n spread_v forth_o many_o bough_n and_o of_o many_o brook_n flow_v from_o one_o fountain_n for_o of_o the_o former_a he_o say_v that_o though_o the_o bough_n be_v many_o and_o spread_v far_o abroad_o robur_n tamen_fw-la unum_fw-la tenaci_fw-la radice_fw-la firmatum_fw-la yet_o the_o strenge_v be_v one_o fasten_v in_o the_o strong_a and_o stiff_a root_n and_o of_o the_o late_a he_o say_v in_o like_a manner_n that_o notwithstanding_o the_o abundant_a and_o copious_a plenty_n of_o water_n disperse_v by_o many_o brook_n yet_o it_o be_v but_o one_o water_n because_o unitas_fw-la say_v he_o seruatur_fw-la in_o 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that_o the_o church_n be_v a_o body_n disperse_v over_o the_o whole_a world_n in_o her_o member_n be_v unite_v in_o one_o head_n and_o therefore_o he_o say_v unum_fw-la tamen_fw-la caput_fw-la &_o origo_fw-la una_fw-la yet_o the_o head_n be_v one_o and_o the_o origin_n or_o begin_v one_o and_o so_o have_v speak_v as_o well_o of_o the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n as_o of_o the_o body_n and_o declare_v from_o whence_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o whole_a be_v deryve_v he_o have_v great_a reason_n to_o add_v una_fw-la mater_fw-la one_o mother_n mother_n give_v to_o understand_v that_o as_o the_o church_n have_v one_o head_n so_o she_o be_v one_o mother_n one_o in_o respect_n of_o her_o unity_n deryve_v from_o her_o head_n and_o mother_n because_o she_o be_v the_o spouse_n of_o christ_n and_o have_v child_n disperse_v throughout_o the_o world_n 11._o and_o thus_o may_v m._n andrews_n see_v that_o albeit_o s._n peter_n be_v not_o call_v in_o s._n cyprian_n a_o mother_n cyprian_n yet_o he_o be_v 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ecclesiam_fw-la quint._n peter_n upon_o who_o our_o lord_n do_v find_v his_o church_n whereupon_o the_o cardinal_n infer_v that_o s._n cyprian_n teach_v that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v upon_o s._n peter_n 218._o and_o that_o therefore_o he_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n and_o consequent_o the_o head_n thereof_o because_o the_o foundation_n in_o a_o building_n and_o the_o head_n in_o a_o body_n be_v all_o one_o whereto_o m._n andrew_n answer_v thus_o alter_fw-la verò_fw-la illi_fw-la ex_fw-la cypriano_n locus_fw-la praecidendus_fw-la erat_fw-la etc._n etc._n fraud_n he_o think_v it_o necessary_a to_o cut_v of_o the_o other_o place_n of_o cyprian_a where_o it_o seem_v little_a to_o favour_v the_o primacy_n for_o thus_o it_o be_v nam_fw-la nec_fw-la petrus_n quem_fw-la primum_fw-la dominus_fw-la elegit_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o neither_o do_v peter_n who_o our_o lord_n choose_v the_o first_o challenge_v any_o thing_n insolent_o to_o himself_o nor_o take_v upon_o he_o arrogant_o to_o say_v that_o he_o have_v the_o primacy_n or_o that_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v obey_v of_o those_o that_o be_v young_a and_o late_a than_o he_o wherein_o the_o mind_n or_o sense_n of_o cyprian_a seem_v to_o be_v that_o if_o peter_n have_v say_v that_o he_o have_v the_o primacy_n he_o have_v insolent_o challenge_v somewhat_o to_o himself_o and_o therefore_o the_o cardinal_n suppress_v this_o part_n of_o the_o text_n wary_o out_o because_o it_o make_v little_a for_o the_o primacy_n and_o rather_o take_v hold_v of_o the_o former_a part_n where_o cyprian_n say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v upon_o peter_n etc._n etc._n 13._o thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n with_o somewhat_o more_o which_o i_o will_v also_o lay_v down_o after_o a_o while_n when_o i_o shall_v first_o have_v examine_v this_o wherein_o you_o see_v he_o will_v fain_o make_v the_o reader_n believe_v that_o the_o cardinal_n have_v use_v some_o art_n or_o fraud_n in_o leave_v it_o uncyte_v as_o not_o favourable_a but_o rather_o prejudicial_a to_o s._n peter_n primacy_n whereas_o in_o truth_n it_o do_v notable_o prove_v it_o and_o no_o way_n impair_v or_o infringe_v it_o as_o he_o may_v see_v in_o the_o cardinal_n controversye_n where_o among_o very_o many_o other_o place_n allege_v for_o the_o primacy_n of_o s._n peter_n he_o urge_v this_o fortify_v it_o notable_o with_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n augustine_n who_o also_o cite_v those_o word_n of_o s._n cyprian_n though_o upon_o another_o occasion_n therefore_o i_o will_v set_v down_o the_o cardinal_n own_o word_n to_o the_o end_n that_o he_o may_v answer_v for_o himself_o who_o have_v bring_v the_o testimony_n of_o a_o whole_a jury_n as_o i_o may_v say_v of_o greek_n father_n to_o wit_n origen_n eusebius_n s._n basil_n s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n s._n epiphanius_n the_o two_o s._n cyrils_n s._n chrysostome_n euthymius_n theophilact_n occumenius_n and_o hugo_n etherianus_n all_o of_o they_o express_o acknowledge_v the_o supremacy_n of_o s._n peter_n above_o all_o the_o other_o apostle_n add_v as_o many_o more_o of_o the_o latin_a father_n and_o begin_v with_o s._n cyprian_n thus_o 25._o 14._o exit_fw-la latinis_fw-la s._n cyprianus_n in_o ep._n ad_fw-la quintum_fw-la etc._n etc._n of_o the_o latin_a father_n s._n cyprian_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o quintus_n say_v that_o peter_n when_o he_o be_v reprehend_v by_o paul_n will_v not_o say_v that_o he_o have_v the_o primacy_n and_o that_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v obey_v augustine_n whereby_o he_o signify_v that_o peter_n have_v the_o primacy_n and_o may_v command_v all_o other_o and_o lest_o perhaps_o our_o adversary_n may_v say_v that_o cyprian_n mean_v that_o peter_n do_v not_o say_v he_o have_v the_o primacy_n because_o he_o shall_v therein_o have_v affirm_v that_o which_o be_v false_a let_v we_o hear_v augustine_n expound_v this_o place_n of_o cyprian_a lib._n 2._o paul_n de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la cap._n 1._o