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A49441 A treatise of the nature of a minister in all its offices to which is annexed an answer to Doctor Forbes concerning the necessity of bishops to ordain, which is an answer to a question, proposed in these late unhappy times, to the author, What is a minister? Lucy, William, 1594-1677. 1670 (1670) Wing L3455; ESTC R11702 218,889 312

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hand_n guard_v it_o but_o it_o shall_v never_o be_v so_o with_o christ_n body_n it_o shall_v be_v a_o pillar_n a_o strong_a support_n of_o all_o truth_n yea_o the_o ground_n and_o foundation_n in_o which_o truth_n be_v inherent_a and_o by_o which_o truth_n be_v support_v that_o instance_n therefore_o fall_v of_o its_o self_n the_o foundation_n be_v cast_v down_o and_o then_o the_o castle_n hang_v only_o in_o the_o air._n sect_n ii_o how_o excommunication_n do_v extirpate_v baptism_n i_o apply_v myself_o then_o to_o the_o first_o instance_n of_o a_o excommunicate_v man_n in_o which_o case_n i_o will_v have_v wish_v he_o have_v bring_v some_o reason_n to_o have_v prove_v they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o church_n but_o he_o not_o do_v it_o i_o will_v undertake_v the_o question_n against_o such_o opposition_n as_o i_o can_v find_v elsewhere_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o a_o excommunicate_a man_n be_v a_o visible_a member_n of_o christ_n visible_a church_n i_o put_v the_o term_n as_o strict_a as_o i_o can_v because_o i_o will_v avoid_v all_o future_a cavil_v and_o i_o answer_v affirmative_o he_o be_v he_o bring_v no_o proof_n to_o the_o contrary_a so_o we_o be_v upon_o even_a term_n if_o i_o shall_v say_v no_o more_o only_o the_o difference_n will_v be_v in_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o speaker_n in_o which_o i_o think_v he_o will_v prevail_v and_o therefore_o i_o will_v examine_v it_o by_o reason_n and_o as_o well_o as_o i_o can_v satisfy_v the_o objection_n make_v by_o some_o jesuit_n against_o it_o to_o understand_v this_o consider_v that_o any_o part_n continue_v so_o long_a a_o member_n of_o its_o body_n as_o it_o be_v unite_v to_o it_o and_o so_o long_o it_o be_v unite_v to_o it_o as_o it_o can_v receive_v influence_n from_o the_o head_n and_o be_v active_a and_o operative_a in_o its_o proper_a work_n by_o the_o fountain_n and_o original_n of_o those_o motion_n assisted_z any_o way_n by_o any_o outward_a application_n or_o inward_a medicine_n the_o member_n of_o a_o man_n body_n as_o it_o hap_v out_o in_o some_o palsy_n may_v be_v utter_o unactive_a so_o that_o they_o can_v stir_v or_o move_v no_o not_o feel_v or_o be_v sensible_a of_o any_o hurt_n and_o yet_o these_o part_n remain_v member_n of_o the_o body_n still_o and_o it_o may_v be_v by_o physician_n direction_n be_v restore_v to_o former_a vivacity_n and_o be_v quicken_v by_o spirit_n as_o before_o come_v from_o the_o same_o fountain_n and_o this_o be_v a_o sign_n it_o be_v a_o member_n still_o of_o this_o body_n that_o which_o be_v a_o member_n of_o another_o body_n can_v by_o any_o act_n be_v make_v a_o member_n of_o this_o nor_o that_o which_o be_v a_o entire_a body_n of_o itself_o so_o that_o when_o physic_n can_v restore_v a_o member_n though_o it_o appear_v to_o our_o sense_n never_o so_o dead_a yet_o it_o be_v still_o a_o member_n again_o consider_v for_o the_o other_o term_n of_o distinction_n that_o if_o a_o baptize_v man_n though_o excommunicate_v be_v a_o member_n by_o his_o baptism_n he_o be_v likewise_o a_o visible_a member_n by_o the_o same_o baptism_n for_o baptism_n be_v a_o visible_a sign_n of_o the_o effect_v it_o produce_v and_o be_v as_o visible_a in_o the_o excommunicate_v man_n as_o in_o he_o that_o communicate_v three_o consider_v that_o many_o part_n of_o the_o body_n be_v by_o obstruction_n hinder_v from_o that_o influence_n of_o blood_n and_o spirit_n which_o will_v enable_v they_o to_o do_v their_o duty_n which_o yet_o that_o obstruction_n remove_v hold_v the_o same_o commerce_n and_o society_n with_o give_v and_o receive_v mutual_a correspondence_n in_o their_o several_a office_n again_o with_o both_o head_n and_o member_n these_o thing_n premise_v as_o i_o think_v apparent_a truth_n i_o now_o address_v myself_o to_o the_o business_n sect_n iii_o bellarmine_n argument_n answer_v there_o be_v a_o great_a dispute_n betwixt_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n and_o other_o whether_o a_o excommunicate_v person_n be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n i_o must_v oppose_v bellarmine_n for_o although_o the_o conclusion_n seem_v the_o same_o in_o thomas_n hooker_n and_o he_o yet_o hooker_n offer_v at_o no_o reason_n for_o it_o bellarmine_n do_v lib._n 3._o de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la militante_fw-la cap._n 6._o and_o he_o say_v excommunicate_v person_n be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n his_o first_o argument_n be_v draw_v from_o mat._n 18._o 17._o if_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v as_o a_o heathen_a etc._n etc._n this_o say_v he_o be_v understand_v of_o excommunication_n i_o yield_v but_o say_v he_o heathen_n be_v not_o of_o the_o church_n i_o grant_v that_o likewise_o but_o do_v add_v neither_o do_v the_o text_n say_v they_o be_v heathen_n no_o more_o than_o publican_n but_o resemble_v as_o sicut_fw-la be_v in_o that_o like_o
his_o major_n now_o let_v we_o examine_v his_o minor_n in_o nostrâ_fw-la tamen_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la reformata_fw-la scotanica_fw-la id_fw-la haberi_fw-la nondum_fw-la potuit_fw-la propter_fw-la ecclesiasticam_fw-la pa●pertatem_fw-la bonis_fw-la ecclesiasticis_fw-la laicorum_fw-la hominum_fw-la sacrilegio_fw-la dir●ptis_fw-la the_o force_n of_o this_o argument_n run_v thus_o although_o deacon_n be_v a_o divine_a ordinance_n yet_o the_o scot_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o poverty_n be_v not_o able_a to_o maintain_v such_o a_o officer_n and_o there_o be_v the_o like_a reason_n for_o bishop_n in_o such_o place_n where_o the_o supreme_a authority_n will_v not_o allow_v they_o so_o that_o necessity_n may_v excuse_v man_n even_o where_o the_o divine_a law_n require_v any_o thing_n i_o must_v confess_v that_o invincible_a necessity_n excuse_v many_o act_n but_o it_o will_v lie_v upon_o the_o soul_n of_o these_o church_n who_o live_v without_o bishop_n to_o answer_v at_o the_o last_o day_n to_o almighty_a god_n and_o make_v it_o good_a before_o he_o that_o their_o omission_n be_v such_o but_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o bishop_n and_o deacon_n be_v exceed_v great_a i_o do_v not_o find_v any_o one_o place_n so_o much_o as_o direct_v that_o deacon_n shall_v be_v in_o every_o particular_a church_n in_o many_o there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o they_o where_o a_o small_a congregation_n of_o twenty_o or_o a_o hundred_o may_v well_o be_v os●iciated_v in_o the_o mean_a duty_n by_o a_o presbyter_n only_o but_o in_o cathedral_n church_n where_o be_v many_o little_a office_n for_o which_o perhaps_o we_o can_v find_v presbyter_n so_o fit_a or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o fit_a that_o we_o shall_v take_v they_o from_o their_o great_a employment_n to_o bestow_v their_o time_n upon_o those_o lesser_a duty_n in_o such_o case_n there_o be_v a_o necessity_n for_o those_o lesser_a office_n to_o be_v use_v but_o if_o they_o shall_v think_v their_o deacon_n to_o be_v ordain_v for_o that_o employment_n mention_v in_o the_o six_o of_o the_o act_n to_o minister_v to_o the_o poor_a i_o may_v say_v that_o such_o a_o employment_n can_v hardly_o complain_v of_o necessity_n by_o sacrilege_n since_o that_o out_o of_o the_o collection_n for_o the_o poor_a he_o may_v be_v allow_v a_o stipend_n competent_a for_o such_o a_o office_n but_o then_o to_o consider_v that_o which_o he_o will_v have_v to_o parallel_v a_o bishop_n where_o be_v any_o such_o a_o small_a congregation_n as_o i_o have_v before_o specify_v all_o thing_n may_v well_o be_v regulate_v by_o a_o presbyter_n and_o he_o alone_o supply_v all_o the_o duty_n belong_v to_o the_o salvation_n of_o soul_n but_o if_o there_o shall_v be_v many_o such_o congregation_n or_o that_o presbyter_n who_o do_v govern_v there_o die_v in_o that_o government_n it_o be_v necessary_a for_o he_o or_o they_o to_o seek_v out_o some_o bishop_n to_o authorise_v he_o or_o they_o for_o this_o duty_n the_o upshot_n of_o all_o this_o be_v that_o deacon_n be_v not_o institute_v as_o necessary_a for_o all_o lesser_a congregation_n that_o bishop_n be_v authorize_v to_o give_v order_n to_o dispose_v of_o such_o affair_n as_o be_v useful_a or_o necessary_a to_o the_o government_n of_o little_a or_o great_a congregation_n but_o especial_o in_o the_o latter_a where_o be_v usual_o more_o and_o more_o dangerous_a exorbitancy_n that_o which_o follow_v in_o that_o page_n be_v only_o a_o discourse_n but_o no_o proof_n and_o so_o i_o pass_v to_o 161._o page_n where_o he_o labour_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o presbytery_n as_o he_o call_v it_o or_o company_n of_o presbyter_n gather_v together_o may_v give_v order_n thus_o chap_n 8._o a_o argument_n draw_v from_o scripture_n answer_v apostolus_n paulus_n manuum_fw-la impositionem_fw-la per_fw-la quam_fw-la ordinatus_fw-la est_fw-la timotheus_n modo_fw-la vocat_fw-la impositionem_fw-la manuum_fw-la s●arum_fw-la 2._o tim._n 1._o 6._o modo_fw-la impositionem_fw-la manuum_fw-la presbiterii_fw-la 1._o tim._n 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