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which_o geneva_n allow_v all_o these_o devise_n can_v stand_v together_o and_o therefore_o if_o you_o have_v learn_v any_o thing_n in_o law_n you_o may_v well_o understand_v that_o forasmuch_o as_o you_o allege_v thing_n contrary_a your_o libel_n and_o petition_n be_v to_o be_v reject_v they_o desire_v synod_n particular_a provincial_a and_o national_a petitioner_n petitioner_n and_o moderator_n of_o they_o they_o must_v show_v better_a reason_n answer_n answer_n or_o else_o no_o man_n will_v regard_v their_o desire_n ecumenical_a synod_n and_o synod_n of_o diverse_a nation_n they_o exclude_v and_o ridiculous_o distinguish_v particular_a from_o provincial_a synod_n and_o make_v particoloured_a synod_n and_o a_o mash_n of_o law_n fit_a for_o sick_a horse_n than_o man_n and_o by_o the_o same_o they_o go_v about_o to_o overthrow_v the_o ancient_a government_n of_o the_o church_n the_o law_n of_o the_o realm_n the_o prerogative_n and_o revenue_n of_o the_o crown_n and_o to_o say_v all_o 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the_o cause_n be_v first_o begin_v that_o be_v in_o the_o parish_n or_o consistory_n and_o not_o before_o the_o synod_n second_o he_o will_v not_o say_v that_o any_o man_n may_v appeal_v in_o the_o last_o instance_n for_o that_o be_v too_o much_o as_o he_o think_v so_o that_o still_o run_v on_o in_o the_o disloyal_a tune_n of_o puritan_fw-gr he_o take_v from_o the_o prince_n the_o last_o cognition_n and_o give_v it_o to_o his_o synod_n they_o desire_v that_o such_o people_n petitioner_n petitioner_n as_o be_v already_o capable_a and_o willing_a to_o live_v as_o become_v church_n of_o christ_n may_v live_v as_o they_o be_v command_v by_o christ_n if_o every_o man_n may_v live_v as_o he_o listen_v answer_n answer_n so_o he_o colour_v his_o pretence_n with_o god_n word_n and_o christ_n commandment_n there_o will_v neither_o papist_n nor_o other_o heretic_n be_v repress_v for_o every_o man_n make_v religion_n and_o christ_n commandment_n a_o cover_n for_o his_o pretence_n but_o glad_o will_v i_o he_o shall_v answer_v i_o this_o question_n whither_o he_o do_v think_v that_o none_o do_v live_v as_o become_v church_n of_o christ_n but_o such_o as_o have_v his_o dogbolt_n devise_n of_o elder_n and_o their_o doltish_a government_n if_o he_o answer_v so_o as_o here_o he_o seem_v then_o must_v i_o tell_v he_o that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o great_a slander_n of_o this_o state_n or_o of_o her_o majesty_n and_o the_o government_n if_o not_o what_o do_v he_o tell_v we_o here_o of_o people_n capable_a and_o willing_a to_o live_v as_o become_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n as_o if_o the_o people_n of_o england_n be_v neither_o capable_a nor_o willing_a so_o to_o live_v again_o let_v he_o tell_v i_o in_o good_a sooth_n whither_o he_o do_v believe_v that_o the_o consistory_n and_o new_a discipline_n thereto_o belong_v be_v in_o deed_n command_v by_o christ_n and_o if_o he_o believe_v it_o let_v he_o show_v the_o place_n and_o the_o
sick_a can_v be_v prove_v either_o by_o scripture_n or_o father_n in_o geneva_n the_o deaconship_n be_v turn_v into_o a_o vain_a office_n of_o proctorship_n for_o the_o poor_a manage_v by_o man_n of_o base_a trade_n why_o then_o do_v he_o accuse_v other_o that_o be_v guilty_a himself_n article_n 29_o the_o deacon_n must_v read_v the_o gospel_n in_o the_o day_n of_o his_o ordination_n put_v on_o a_o tunicle_n but_o this_o vesture_n be_v scarce_o know_v at_o this_o day_n answer_n the_o book_n of_o ordain_v of_o minister_n print_v anno_fw-la 1559._o and_o confirm_v by_o parliament_n have_v no_o such_o matter_n and_o therefore_o unless_o he_o can_v show_v his_o author_n for_o his_o tunicle_n let_v he_o wear_v the_o tunicle_n together_o with_o his_o four_o elbowed_a jacket_n himself_o but_o admit_v some_o piece_n of_o apparel_n be_v omit_v in_o deacons_n yet_o be_v the_o fault_n not_o great_a nor_o to_o be_v ascribe_v to_o any_o but_o to_o those_o that_o commit_v the_o same_o article_n 30_o the_o bishop_n at_o the_o ordination_n of_o minister_n do_v tell_v they_o the_o weight_n of_o their_o charge_n and_o what_o labour_n they_o ought_v to_o take_v yet_o most_o of_o they_o be_v never_o resident_a answer_n if_o they_o labour_v not_o as_o they_o shall_v do_v let_v they_o be_v punish_v if_o they_o be_v absent_a for_o lawful_a cause_n and_o at_o time_n why_o be_v they_o more_o blame_v than_o the_o skittish_a puritan_fw-gr that_o notwithstanding_o their_o charge_n be_v like_o malcontent_n and_o mutinous_a person_n still_o wander_v up_o and_o down_o to_o place_n where_o they_o have_v nought_o to_o do_v rather_o to_o trouble_v the_o state_n then_o to_o edify_v the_o church_n and_o rather_o hinder_v other_o labour_n by_o spread_v of_o false_a doctrine_n and_o novelty_n then_o help_v by_o teach_v faith_n and_o manner_n article_n 31_o the_o law_n will_v have_v they_o give_v themselves_o to_o their_o function_n yet_o many_o attend_v civil_a and_o worldly_a affair_n answer_n if_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n be_v so_o repugnant_a as_o be_v pretend_v why_o do_v minister_n govern_v their_o family_n or_o college_n or_o what_o have_v t._n cartw._n to_o meddle_v with_o the_o charge_n of_o his_o hospital_n a_o matter_n mere_a civil_a and_o wherein_o he_o have_v do_v more_o good_a then_o in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n for_o he_o have_v bestir_v himself_o so_o that_o what_o by_o reward_n what_o by_o avail_v of_o his_o hospital_n and_o pinch_v those_o that_o be_v commit_v to_o his_o charge_n and_o what_o by_o buy_v and_o sell_v the_o man_n be_v grow_v fat_a and_o rich_a of_o his_o ministry_n we_o see_v no_o fruit_n but_o contention_n and_o trouble_n percase_o he_o will_v say_v he_o be_v no_o minister_n but_o why_o then_o do_v he_o meddle_v with_o the_o minister_n office_n like_o to_o he_o be_v his_o follower_n man_n very_o stir_v and_o busy_a in_o all_o matter_n of_o state_n howsoever_o this_o man_n mislike_v they_o therein_o contrariwise_o for_o subject_n to_o execute_v the_o commandment_n of_o the_o prince_n and_o to_o see_v their_o ministry_n also_o discharge_v be_v commendable_a and_o not_o only_o allowable_a the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o the_o land_n allow_v it_o wherefore_o then_o shall_v he_o malicious_o condemn_v that_o which_o he_o can_v disproove_v article_n 32_o bishop_n only_o excommunicate_a and_o suspend_v yet_o by_o the_o book_n of_o order_v minister_n every_o one_o be_v to_o administer_v the_o discipline_n of_o christ_n and_o christ_n have_v give_v the_o key_n equal_o answer_n the_o law_n be_v misreport_v and_o misinterpret_v for_o the_o word_n be_v that_o minister_n shall_v minister_v discipline_n as_o this_o church_n have_v receive_v it_o and_o so_o they_o do_v and_o by_o discipline_n be_v admonition_n public_a and_o private_a and_o preach_v and_o execute_v the_o ordinary_n sentence_n understand_v that_o every_o minister_n by_o law_n shall_v excommunicate_v or_o suspend_v other_o equal_o can_v be_v prove_v the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n yet_o every_o one_o do_v not_o use_v they_o equal_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o law_n be_v all_o partaker_n of_o the_o priesthood_n yet_o may_v not_o all_o do_v all_o thing_n all_o be_v not_o judge_n nor_o governor_n nor_o look_v to_o all_o thing_n but_o these_o fellow_n will_v have_v a_o anabaptistical_n equality_n bring_v in_o that_o such_o as_o have_v no_o merit_n to_o mount_v high_o may_v bring_v down_o other_o lower_v &_o make_v they_o equal_a to_o themselves_o both_o the_o word_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o law_n make_v against_o the_o libeller_n beside_o all_o this_o it_o will_v be_v infinite_o inconvenient_a and_o absurd_a if_o such_o arm_n as_o the_o church_n censure_n be_v put_v in_o every_o cockebrayned_a fellow_n handle_v and_o such_o odd_a fellow_n as_o the_o puritan_fw-gr be_v make_v governor_n of_o the_o church_n equal_a with_o the_o best_a article_n 33_o the_o bishop_n chapplayne_v and_o doctor_n use_v not_o private_a admonition_n in_o their_o cure_n answer_n many_o thing_n the_o libeller_n affirm_v and_o proove_v nothing_o so_o that_o it_o shall_v seem_v he_o take_v pleasure_n in_o talk_v and_o calumniate_a but_o suppose_v they_o do_v not_o follow_v the_o course_n of_o puritan_fw-gr in_v private_a and_o parlour_n admonition_n &_o paraphrase_n be_v not_o the_o office_n of_o the_o minister_n public_a &_o not_o private_a must_v he_o as_o these_o puritan_fw-gr do_v creep_v into_o woman_n closert_n or_o must_v he_o put_v his_o foot_n under_o every_o merchant_n man_n table_n &_o their_o shrive_v they_o such_o admonition_n as_o the_o office_n of_o minister_n and_o law_n require_v they_o do_v use_v the_o course_n of_o puritan_fw-gr in_o their_o private_a exercise_n and_o paraphrase_n they_o take_v neither_o to_o be_v command_v by_o law_n nor_o to_o be_v suffer_v in_o reason_n for_o the_o manifold_a abuse_n of_o it_o and_o much_o more_o credit_n be_v it_o for_o the_o puritan_fw-gr if_o they_o have_v never_o begin_v their_o table_n 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