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assure_v man_n of_o their_o ordinary_a call_n in_o the_o ministry_n for_o they_o that_o can_v confer_v the_o like_o grace_n how_o can_v they_o by_o the_o imitation_n hereof_o assure_v the_o call_n in_o those_o day_n by_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n be_v often_o the_o visible_a grace_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n bestow_v the_o fallacy_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d fallacy_n fallacy_n secundùm_fw-la figuram_fw-la dictionis_fw-la for_o presbytery_n there_o be_v not_o the_o company_n or_o college_n of_o ordainer_n but_o the_o ordination_n or_o order_n give_v by_o one_o alone_a principal_n in_o his_o authority_n the_o figure_n be_v metonymy_fw-la the_o sign_n the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o the_o thing_n signify_v at_o the_o least_o this_o be_v a_o foul_a absurdity_n demonstrator_n absurdity_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n that_o never_o any_o be_v either_o in_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n church_n or_o succee_o or_o in_o our_o church_n assure_v of_o his_o
have_v describe_v 1._o tim._n 5.17_o ergo_fw-la there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d any_o colourable_a description_n of_o elder_n in_o these_o word_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o place_n give_v commendation_n and_o great_a maintenance_n to_o all_o pastoral_a elder_n that_o govern_v their_o flock_n well_o but_o honourable_a commendation_n of_o those_o who_o with_o earnestness_n labour_n in_o the_o word_n so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v your_o elder_n have_v not_o any_o maintenance_n of_o your_o church_n but_o live_v of_o their_o craft_n and_o trade_n and_o therefore_o your_o can_v be_v there_o mean_v which_o be_v speak_v special_o to_o establish_v large_a maintenance_n by_o the_o church_n towards_o the_o elder_n there_o understand_v the_o 5._o demonstration_n or_o allegation_n there_o be_v no_o church_n which_o can_v stand_v without_o their_o eldership_n or_o council_n ep_v demonstration_n ign._n ad_fw-la tral_n ep_v the_o word_n be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v the_o elder_n or_o minister_n or_o pastoral_n elder_n be_v a_o senate_n or_o fellowship_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n without_o it_o there_o be_v no_o congregation_n holy_a or_o sacred_a nor_o synod_n of_o saint_n and_o so_o say_v we_o but_o this_o be_v a_o great_a distance_n from_o your_o laical_a eldership_n this_o be_v our_o holy_a and_o sacred_a convocation_n or_o chapterhouse_n or_o whatsoever_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n and_o meeting_n it_o appear_v by_o sundry_a place_n of_o ignatius_n that_o the_o presbyteri_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o do_v preach_v and_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n ergo_fw-la he_o mean_v not_o of_o you_o these_o who_o he_o mean_v he_o say_v be_v successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o hitherto_o i_o have_v not_o hear_v any_o of_o you_o challenge_v for_o your_o elder_n that_o be_v lay_v man_n the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n bape_n demonstration_n tertul._n de_fw-fr bape_n it_o belong_v only_o to_o the_o bishop_n to_o baptise_v and_o to_o the_o elder_a and_o deacon_n upon_o the_o bishop_n licence_n i_o will_v to_o god_n you_o will_v as_o well_o do_v after_o this_o golden_a sentence_n of_o tertull._n as_o you_o can_v memorative_o recite_v the_o same_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o sense_n and_o sentence_n make_v all_o for_o us._n dandi_fw-la habet_fw-la ius_fw-la summus_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la episcopus_fw-la dehinc_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la &_o diaconi_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la sine_fw-la episcopi_fw-la authoritate_fw-la propter_fw-la eeclesiae_fw-la honorem_fw-la quo_fw-la saluo_fw-la salua_fw-la pax_fw-la est_fw-la as_o the_o bishop_n be_v a_o superior_a minister_n or_o priest_n so_o presbyter_n a_o inferior_a minister_n or_o priest_n for_o your_o elder_n you_o may_v go_v seek_v for_o you_o permit_v neither_o your_o elder_n nor_o deacon_n to_o baptize_v the_o 7._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n lucife_n demonstra_fw-la jeron_n con_fw-mi lucife_n neither_o elder_a nor_o deacon_n have_v right_a but_o upon_o commandment_n of_o the_o bishop_n so_o much_o as_o to_o baptize_v the_o word_n ind_n venit_fw-la ut_fw-la sine_fw-la chrismate_fw-la &_o episcopi_fw-la iussione_n neque_fw-la presbyter_n neque_fw-la diaconus_fw-la ius_fw-la habeant_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la that_o be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n pastoral_a elder_n or_o priest_n the_o word_n immediate_o antecedent_n speak_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o chief_a priest_n who_o do_v authorise_v other_o priest_n ut_fw-la enim_fw-la accepit_fw-la quis_fw-la ita_fw-la &_o dare_v potest_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o chrism_n aswell_o as_o of_o the_o bishop_n licence_n allude_v to_o a_o particular_a custom_n this_o can_v serve_v your_o turn_n for_o you_o hold_v that_o no_o bishop_n may_v debar_v you_o of_o licence_n to_o preach_v or_o use_v your_o ministry_n &_o your_o elder_n and_o deacons_n may_v not_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n though_o they_o be_v licence_v as_o yourselves_o think_v the_o 8._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n elder_n fall_v away_o upon_o the_o ambition_n of_o the_o teacher_n 5._o demonstra_fw-la amb._n 1._o tim._n 5._o ambrose_n say_v synagoga_fw-la &_o postea_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la seniores_fw-la habuit_fw-la tolerable_a remonstrance_n ambrose_n say_v that_o state_n of_o the_o church_n for_o all_o that_o be_v tolerable_a both_o the_o synagogue_n and_o afterward_o the_o church_n have_v elder_n or_o senior_n before_o any_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v the_o preeminence_n in_o the_o church_n but_o no_o such_o elder_n as_o you_o do_v platform_n for_o these_o give_v but_o counsel_n you_o do_v absolute_o govern_v ordain_v censure_n and_o all_o thing_n save_v preach_v and_o minister_a sacrament_n the_o 9_o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n august_n demonstra_fw-la possidon_n in_o vita_fw-la august_n valerius_n the_o bishop_n do_v contrary_a to_o the_o apostolical_a custom_n in_o appoint_v augustine_n to_o preach_v be_v a_o elder_a the_o word_n be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n contrausum_fw-la &_o consuetudinem_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la aphricanarum_fw-la against_o the_o use_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o aphrican_a church_n not_o of_o the_o oriental_a church_n where_o the_o use_n be_v so_o a_o custom_n particular_a mislike_v also_o by_o many_o of_o the_o father_n you_o will_v make_v apostolical_a and_o general_a the_o 10._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n after_o arrius_n be_v convict_v of_o heresy_n 22._o demonstrat_n socr._n li._n 5._o ca._n 22._o elder_n may_v not_o preach_v it_o be_v so_o decree_v caluins_n quotation_n be_v lib._n 9_o socrat._n tripartitae_fw-la historiae_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n alexandria_n tantùm_fw-la institutum_fw-la fuit_fw-la whence_o you_o borrow_v this_o only_o at_o alexandria_n this_o be_v ordain_v because_o arrius_n have_v trouble_v the_o church_n there_o be_v not_o this_o curtal_n of_o place_n a_o evident_a sign_n of_o the_o evil_a conscience_n you_o have_v if_o you_o know_v it_o or_o of_o ignorance_n join_v with_o boldness_n if_o you_o know_v it_o not_o and_o yet_o allege_v it_o the_o 11._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 1._o demonstrat_n bucer_n de_fw-fr reg_fw-la chri._n lib._n 1._o the_o number_n of_o elder_n of_o every_o church_n must_v be_v increase_v according_a to_o the_o multitude_n of_o the_o people_n bucer_n by_o the_o word_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 8._o speak_v of_o curatorum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o seniorum_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n that_o be_v pastoral_a elder_n as_o the_o marginal_a note_n understand_v the_o minister_n ministros_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sarcire_fw-la oportere_fw-la quicquid_fw-la fuerit_fw-la neglectum_fw-la the_o 12._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n martyr_n 12._o rom._n lament_v that_o they_o be_v fall_v out_o of_o the_o church_n demonstration_n demonstration_n that_o the_o name_n scant_o remain_v martyr_n cit_v s._n ambrose_n complaint_n of_o the_o want_n or_o defect_n of_o certain_a elder_n for_o advice_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n who_o be_v for_o a_o time_n in_o some_o church_n the_o magistrate_n be_v unchristian_a but_o you_o find_v not_o that_o they_o be_v call_v presbyteri_fw-la as_o signify_v a_o office_n which_o title_n you_o give_v to_o you_o and_o the_o place_n where_o presbyteri_fw-la be_v name_v you_o apply_v to_o they_o the_o 13._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n certain_a of_o the_o people_n be_v join_v with_o the_o pastor_n in_o church-government_n 1._o demonstration_n idem_fw-la 12._o co._n 1._o even_o so_o at_o this_o day_n remonstran_n remonstran_n in_o every_o parish_n be_v the_o like_a assistant_n to_o gather_v and_o employ_v the_o alm_n of_o the_o church_n and_o for_o other_o provision_n the_o puritan_n know_v not_o their_o own_o church_n or_o common_a wealth_n and_o yet_o the_o meaning_n be_v but_o of_o church_n in_o great_a city_n and_o cathedral_n the_o 14._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 8._o demostran_n caluin_n instit_fw-la li._n 4._o cap._n 3._o sect_n 8._o there_o be_v elder_n in_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o say_v it_o be_v no_o necessary_a demonstration_n to_o prove_v it_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n he_o can_v never_o prove_v that_o they_o have_v jurisdiction_n or_o aught_o to_o have_v of_o censure_n of_o ordination_n of_o law_n make_v and_o all_o other_o government_n or_o that_o they_o be_v lay_v man_n and_o have_v no_o maintenance_n by_o the_o church_n or_o that_o they_o be_v annual_a or_o biennall_a officer_n as_o the_o consistorial_o do_v now_o preach_v the_o 15._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n d._n whitgift_n pag._n 638._o confess_v there_o be_v elder_n demonstr_n demonstr_n some_o be_v senior_n as_o ambrose_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o church_n before_o any_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v pro_fw-la tempore_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o a_o stay_n &_o good_a advice_n in_o the_o church_n but_o none_o of_o this_o medley_n of_o perpetuity_n and_o with_o such_o government_n and_o authority_n as_o be_v now_o plait_a the_o 16_o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n if_o the_o platform_n to_o timothy_n be_v for_o all_o church_n demonstration_n demonstration_n then_o must_v elder_n be_v in_o al._n 1._o timoth._n 6.14_o but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o second_o this_o be_v
answer_v before_o cap._n 1._o not_o to_o concern_v any_o policy_n of_o elder_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n but_o to_o keep_v the_o general_a commandment_n of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o life_n they_o may_v as_o well_o say_v that_o the_o commandment_n to_o drink_v no_o water_n be_v mean_v by_o that_o place_n the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v there_o wary_o use_v the_o singular_a number_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o now_o you_o will_v make_v to_o pertain_v to_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o every_o thing_n contain_v in_o that_o epistle_n if_o it_o do_v so_o yet_o can_v it_o not_o help_v you_o for_o there_o be_v no_o such_o commandment_n for_o any_o such_o elder_n in_o that_o whole_a epistle_n no_o nor_o any_o mention_n by_o the_o way_n of_o they_o the_o 17._o demonstration_n that_o which_o be_v in_o every_o minister_n commission_n must_v be_v in_o every_o congregation_n demonstration_n demonstration_n but_o the_o ordination_n and_o practice_n of_o this_o office_n mat._n 28.20_o be_v so_o or_o else_o they_o ordain_v elder_n without_o warrant_n from_o christ_n ergo_fw-la they_o must_v be_v in_o every_o congregation_n exit_fw-la nihilo_fw-la nihil_fw-la fit_a of_o nothing_o come_v nothing_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n this_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o great_a space_n between_o these_o two_o go_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d make_v disciple_n or_o teach_v all_o nation_n ergo_fw-la make_v unpreach_v presbyter_n in_o all_o nation_n this_o the_o demonstrationer_n make_v the_o minister_n commission_n afore_o and_o be_v it_o now_o the_o commission_n for_o unteach_v elder_n to_o be_v ordain_v in_o every_o place_n the_o reason_n of_o the_o minor_a be_v false_a for_o neither_o make_v they_o any_o such_o elder_n in_o every_o congregation_n neither_o do_v their_o authority_n for_o ordination_n and_o sundry_a other_o point_n of_o church-gourernment_a depend_v only_o upon_o that_o commission_n which_o respect_v the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n the_o 18._o demonstration_n where_o a_o bishop_n must_v be_v demonstration_n demonstration_n elder_n must_v be_v a_o bishop_n must_v be_v in_o every_o congregation_n ergo_fw-la elder_n this_o demonstration_n be_v no_o guest_n but_o a_o ordinary_a servant_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o this_o serve_v your_o turn_n often_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o one_o of_o these_o be_v no_o better_a know_v then_o the_o other_o there_o must_v be_v parish_n bishop_n ergo_fw-la parish_n elder_n and_o it_o follow_v not_o by_o any_o coherence_n any_o more_o than_o this_o there_o must_v be_v a_o constable_n in_o every_o town_n ergo_fw-la 24._o alderman_n the_o 19_o demonstration_n if_o the_o apostle_n establish_v one_o uniform_a order_n in_o all_o church_n demonstration_n demonstration_n than_o there_o must_v be_v elder_n in_o every_o congregation_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o second_o for_o s._n paul_n say_v thus_o i_o teach_v in_o all_o congregation_n to_o the_o antecedent_n this_o be_v the_o fallacy_n of_o consequence_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o apostle_n do_v establish_v uniformity_n for_o essential_a point_n of_o discipline_n but_o leave_v not_o any_o policy_n for_o lay_v elder_n the_o consecution_n of_o the_o mayor_n be_v false_a can_v there_o be_v none_o uniformity_n except_o such_o your_o elder_n be_v every_o where_o appoint_v who_o indeed_o be_v nowhere_o to_o the_o assumption_n s._n paul_n may_v very_o well_o leave_v all_o point_n of_o wholesome_a doctrine_n all_o good_a order_n for_o the_o church_n but_o never_o institute_v the_o particularity_n of_o your_o discipline_n the_o 1._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n god_n have_v give_v sovereign_a authority_n over_o the_o church_n to_o christian_a magistrate_n demonstration_n demonstration_n which_o these_o elder_n will_v abridge_v answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n no_o more_o than_o the_o eldership_n in_o david_n time_n do_v abridge_v david_n sovereignty_n over_o 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say_v you_o break_v therein_o the_o moral_a law_n of_o god_n the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n cyprian_n lib._n 3._o ep_v 10._o will_v do_v nothing_o in_o his_o charge_n without_o counsel_n of_o elder_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n and_o consent_n of_o people_n his_o meaning_n be_v he_o will_v do_v nothing_o i_o a_o privatim_fw-la sententia_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n by_o any_o domestical_a determination_n but_o with_o the_o privity_n and_o counsel_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o clergy_n that_o be_v but_o in_o consistory_n open_o or_o which_o be_v consult_v and_o conclude_v upon_o in_o synod_n public_o before_o so_o that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v prejudicial_a but_o these_o be_v minister_n that_o assist_v he_o a_o bishop_n the_o 7._o demonstration_n or_o allegation_n the_o elder_n and_o other_o officer_n have_v power_n to_o absolve_v as_o well_o as_o the_o bishop_n 14._o demonstrat_n cypr._n epist_n 14._o remonstrance_n lib._n 3._o epist_n 14._o you_o quote_v not_o the_o book_n as_o for_o the_o place_n it_o make_v against_o the_o presumption_n of_o your_o elder_n or_o any_o pastoral_a elder_n who_o give_v ius_fw-la communicationis_fw-la without_o the_o leave_n of_o the_o bishop_n as_o certain_a then_o do_v as_o for_o the_o word_n manus_fw-la impositionem_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o cleri_fw-la it_o strengthen_v the_o hand_n of_o authority_n in_o a_o bishop_n who_o be_v perpetual_a precedent_n of_o his_o clergy_n the_o 8._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n for_o asmuch_o as_o absolution_n long_v unto_o all_o i_o dare_v not_o do_v it_o remonstrance_n demonstrat_n idem_n epist_n 19_o remonstrance_n cyprian_n say_v praeiudicare_fw-la ego_fw-la &_o solum_fw-la mihi_fw-la rem_fw-la communem_fw-la vendicare_fw-la non_fw-la audeo_fw-la in_o case_n the_o absolution_n of_o certain_a do_v concern_v many_o as_o well_o as_o himself_o he_o will_v not_o do_v that_o to_o restore_v the_o offender_n to_o their_o state_n the_o 9_o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n if_o there_o be_v any_o that_o have_v do_v such_o a_o fault_n that_o be_v to_o be_v put_v away_o from_o partake_v prayer_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n 39_o demonstrat_n tertul._n apolog_fw-la cap._n 39_o there_o do_v bear_v rule_v certain_a approve_a elder_n of_o the_o church_n the_o word_n summum_fw-la futuri_fw-la iudicij_fw-la praeiudicium_fw-la est_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n si_fw-la quis_fw-la ita_fw-la deliquerit_fw-la ut_fw-la à _fw-la communicatione_n orationis_fw-la &_o conventus_fw-la &_o omnis_fw-la sancti_fw-la commercij_fw-la relegetur_fw-la president_n probati_fw-la quique_fw-la seniores_fw-la honorem_fw-la istum_fw-la non_fw-la pretio_fw-la sed_fw-la testimonio_fw-la adepti_fw-la the_o word_n follow_v give_v not_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n to_o these_o elder_n or_o arbiter_n any_o time_n much_o less_o perpetual_o if_o at_o that_o time_n of_o persecution_n they_o have_v a_o censure_n over_o manner_n but_o let_v it_o be_v prove_v that_o they_o be_v not_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n but_o mere_a annual_a officer_n and_o without_o maintenance_n of_o the_o church_n as_o you_o be_v the_o 10._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n it_o help_v much_o to_o make_v the_o party_n ashamed_a that_o he_o be_v excommnnicate_a by_o the_o whole_a church_n donat._n augustin_n lib._n 3._o contra_fw-la epistol_n parmen_fw-la the_o donat._n as_o also_o in_o his_o book_n of_o baptism_n against_o donatist_n often_o tunc_fw-la timore_fw-la percutitur_fw-la &_o pudore_fw-la sanatur_fw-la cum_fw-la ab_fw-la universa_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la anathematizatum_fw-la se_fw-la cernens_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n so_o be_v the_o word_n when_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v expel_v and_o blame_v he_o by_o their_o judgement_n also_o as_o the_o magistrate_n by_o his_o own_o censure_n the_o 11._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n the_o elder_n have_v interest_n in_o other_o censure_n demetriaden_n demonstrat_n hierom_n 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