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but_o leave_v they_o to_o their_o own_o simple_a fancy_n &_o enthusiasm_n let_v we_o proceed_v to_o the_o presbyterian_o to_o which_o party_n i_o first_o adhere_v when_o i_o forsake_v the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o and_o of_o all_o dissenter_n from_o thâ—t_a church_n in_o my_o opinion_n they_o have_v the_o great_a show_n of_o reason_n for_o their_o separation_n firm._n in_o my_o judgement_n they_o have_v less_o reason_n to_o separate_v then_o any_o other_o because_o they_o agree_v with_o we_o in_o doctrinal_n and_o be_v divide_v from_o we_o because_o of_o some_o ceremony_n which_o be_v confess_o thing_n indifferent_a and_o for_o some_o mode_n of_o government_n viz._n the_o episcopal_a and_o presbyterian_a of_o which_o though_o the_o former_a be_v the_o best_a and_o most_o ancient_a yet_o learned_a and_o most_o moderate_a man_n of_o both_o party_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o neither_o of_o these_o form_n of_o government_n be_v so_o essential_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n but_o 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in_o the_o duty_n of_o their_o call_n looseness_n in_o
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and_o king_n to_o who_o all_o power_n both_o in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n be_v give_v and_o to_o who_o every_o knee_n must_v bow_v phil._n 2.10_o the_o ancient_a christian_n rather_o bow_v at_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n then_o at_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o unbelieve_a jew_n who_o most_o of_o all_o blaspheme_v that_o sweet_a and_o save_a name_n of_o jesus_n which_o therefore_o they_o do_v endeavour_v the_o more_o high_o to_o exalt_v 3._o to_o declare_v their_o certain_a belief_n of_o what_o the_o apostle_n foretell_v that_o at_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n every_o knee_n shall_v bow_v of_o thing_n in_o heaven_n thing_n in_o earth_n and_o thing_n under_o the_o earth_n that_o all_o thing_n shall_v be_v subject_a unto_o he_o phil._n 2._o 3._o kneel_v at_o the_o sacrament_n our_o church_n conceive_v to_o be_v the_o most_o humble_a and_o reverend_a posture_n and_o therefore_o most_o suitable_a to_o so_o high_a and_o heavenly_a a_o mystery_n especial_o it_o be_v 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