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A26860 An answer to Mr. Dodwell and Dr. Sherlocke, confuting an universal humane church-supremacy aristocratical and monarchical, as church-tyranny and popery : and defending Dr. Isaac Barrow's treatise against it by Richard Baxter ; preparatory to a fuller treatise against such an universal soveraignty as contrary to reason, Christianity, the Protestant profession, and the Church of England, though the corrupters usurp that title. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1682 (1682) Wing B1184; ESTC R16768 131,071 189

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he_o a_o damnable_a schismatic_n 14._o and_o hereby_o there_o be_v as_o many_o hundred_o new_a article_n of_o faith_n make_v as_o there_o be_v thing_n lawful_a which_o a_o prelate_n will_v command_v for_o though_o all_o be_v not_o to_o be_v do_v that_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v yet_o all_o must_v be_v believe_v to_o be_v lawful_a and_o duty_n which_o must_v be_v do_v as_o such_o e._n g._n we_o can_v love_v god_n worship_v he_o hear_v and_o read_v his_o word_n etc._n etc._n as_o by_o divine_a obedience_n unless_o we_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v our_o duty_n by_o a_o divine_a command_n therefore_o when_o as_o mr._n dodwell_n dr._n saywell_n and_o such_o other_o tell_v we_o what_o damn_v schism_n it_o be_v to_o disobey_v such_o command_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o to_o suffer_v ourselves_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a it_o plain_o include_v that_o it_o be_v as_o damn_v a_o sin_n to_o take_v any_o lawful_a thing_n to_o be_v a_o sin_n and_o not_o to_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a whatever_o 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