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A44985 An answer to some queries propos'd by W.C., or, A refutation of Helmont's pernicious error (that every man is often born, and hath twelve ages of tryal allow'd him in the world by God) warmly contended for, in and about Lambourn in Wiltshire : in a letter to a friend. Hall, John, 1627-1656. 1694 (1694) Wing H343; ESTC R34926 10,528 24

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