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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A17588	A solution of Doctor Resolutus, his resolutions for kneeling	Calderwood, David, 1575-1650.	1619 (1619)	STC 4364; ESTC S107403	44,245	58

vncovered at this table which we do not at common tables but we do it for veneration and not for adoration VVe sit with our heads uncovered when the word is read but not when it is preached to distinguish between the voyce of God and the voyce of man At this holy action the words the symboles the rites are all divine and Christs own words rites and symboles his voyce soundeth through all the tables of the world the symboles are the Princes seales and our celebration is nothing else but a repetition of the first institution and the authentike instrument written over again VVe use not kneeling civilly wheresoever we use the uncovered head but kneeling is the gesture of adoration both in civill and religious uses The uncovering of the head doth noth spoyle us of the liberties and prerogatives of a table sociall admission to it and familiar entertainment at it nor breaketh not the order and frame of the institution but kneeling is guiltie of all these enormities as I have sayd If commodity make custome and custome make decencie section 4 then kneeeling must be condemned as an undecent gesture The Doctor measureth the time of the celebration by his own form when he dispatcheth the communicants with some few words and not by the institution But make the time of celebration never so short yet kneeling is more painfull then any other gesture and consequently not so decent because not so commodious To what purpose serveth all this discourse seeing kneeling is not urged as a table-gesture but as a gesture of adoration Swarez sayth that kneeling which is a note of adoration may be made an act of a penitentiarie for the pain which is joyned with it But we consider not now the pain but the purpose of it in this argument For never man yet thought that kneeling was the fittest table-gesture neither have we ever heard any nation never so barbarous use it He sayth kneeling is more universally received in the reformed Kirkes then sitting If he meane of the Lutheran Kirkes that universalitie is not to be regarded The best reformed Kirkes as they have abandoned the opinion of the bodily presence so have they the gesture of kneeling yea all the Lutherans do not consent to the adoration of Christ in the Eucharist as Illyricus and his followers because they say Christ is to be adored onely where it is his will to be adored As for the Anglican Kirk I deny that the body of that Kirk doth approve kneeling howsoever they be compelled by their Kirk representative to practise it If we should follow examples we must look to voluntaries It is no great commandation of kneeling that it was practised 400 yeares under the Antichrist and howbeit we wer not able to designe some time when another gesture was in use it will not follow that it was in practise in all ages before VVe are not bound to shew the behinning of every corruption VVhilest the husband man was sleeping the evill one did sow his tares among the wheat which he perceived not till they were growen up Yet we will be more liberall and for further satisfaction we use to give an instance of an other gesture which was in use to wit standing at the act of receiving for the space of 500. yea an thousand yeare after Christ and they cannot produce one expresse authentike testimony of kneeling for the space of 500 yea of a 1000 yeare after Christ. And to testifie ancient standing we have yet the custome of Christians in the Orient Honorius it seemeth ordained not kneeling at the elevation of the Masse but a reverend inclination of the body howbeit aftervvard it turned to kneeling But vvhether Honorius ordained kneeling at the elevation and whether kneeling in the act of receiving went before kneeling at the elevation or followed after is not prejudiciall to our cause seeing both vvere bred under the Antichrist and no authentick testimony can be alledged of the gesture of kneeling for a 1000. section 5 Yeares section 6 He admitteth standing on the Lords day and other dayes wherein they did not kneele in time of publick prayer but yet upon other dayes saith he as they might pray kneeling so they might communicate kneeling But he doth not produce so much as one example out of all antiquity The examples alledged by us for standing in the act of receiving are generall and for every day as well as for the Lords day The example alledged by himself doth not specifie any day The testimony of Dionysius Alexandrinus and the vvords of Tertullian are confounded in Perth assembly through the Printers fault which by the vvay I vvish the Reader to mark The ancient Kirk changing sitting into standing judged sitting not necessarie It is true Neither do we hold it absolutely necessarie and as for the change vve are not to imitate them herein for they adulterated the forme of the institution many wayes mixing the vvine with water giving the communion to Infants taking the Sacrament home to eate it in their private houses as may be seen in the most ancient vvriters VVe ought to take heed not vvhat any hath done before us sayth Cyprian but vvhat Christ vvho vvas before all did vve must not follow the custome of man but the truth of God And if it be not lawfull sayth he to break the least of the Lords commandements farre lesse is it lawfull to violate so great commandements belonging to the Sacrament of the Lords Passion and of our redemption Calvin findeth great fault with them and sayth that the ancients went neerer the Iudaicall manner of sacrificing then Christs ordinance and the course of the Gospel vvould permit And a little after he saith that if vve think this supper the supper of the Lord and not the supper of men let us not move a naile bredth from it for any authority of mē or prescriptiō of yeares And Tossanus saith that the changing of ceremonies in the Lord supper instituted by Christ and heaping up of other ceremonies divised by mans vvill-vvorship vvas the beginning of error anent the supper and vvas no small occasion of superstition The ancient Kirk judged not standing the fittest gesture for prayer for if they had so judged then they vvould have enjoyned standing at prayer upon other dayes as vvell as upon the Lorde day They stood on the Lords day not because it vvas the fittest gesture for prayer but for signification to signifie their joy for Christs resurrection but kneeling they judged the fittest gesture for prayer as may be seen in the questions attributed to Iustinus The ancient Kirk standing at the receit of the Sacrament ye see then judged not the gesture of prayer the fittest gesture in the act of receiving the Sacrament CHAP. III. Kneeling agreeth not best vvith pietie THe Doctor will now prove kneeling to agree best with pietie But if it agree not best with the decencie of a table but overthroweth the