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A96995 The covenants plea for infants: or, The covenant of free grace, pleading the divine right of Christian infants unto the seale of holy baptisme. Against the rusticke sophistry, and wicked cavillations of sacrilegious Anabaptists: being the summe of certaine sermons had in the parish-church of Cranham, neere the city of Gloucester, in Gloucester-shire, with the exceptions of certaine Anabaptists against the foresaid sermons, and the authors answers thereunto. Very seasonable for weake consciences in these unsettled times of schisme and apostacie. By Thomas Wynell minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Wynell, Thomas, b. 1599 or 1600. 1642 (1642) Wing W3778; Thomason E115_17; ESTC R8440 86,631 137

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we find generally all children to be as vile and as wicked when they are come to any bignesse as any wicked men For there is not any evill almost but they doe shew it in their tougues or actions And this they doe c. ut infra Answer In the amplification of this reason I told you that among us that were baptized in infancy we have as humble and as meek and mortified men and women as any among the Anabaptists to say no more We have those that dye dayly unto sinne and are vexed in soule to see the abominations of others Againe wee have those that beare upon them the marks of the Lord Jesus Their lives are holy and lovely They are sound in the faith grave in their behavior and ready unto all good works They deny themselves They advance free grace They afflict their souldes and seek the peace of Hierusalem And hereof I say we through Gods blessing have not a few and all these baptized in their infancy And whereas you say that all children generally are as vile as wicked when they are come to any bignesse as any wicked men I must tell you that this your charge is unjust wicked and slanderous for many children of godly parents among us that were baptized in their infancy doe manifest the gracious fruits of their incorporation into Christ by Baptisme as soone as they come to any bignesse And their speeches and actions considering the immaturity of their age and the corruption and frailty of mans nature are for the corruption and frailty of mans nature are for the generall tenour thereof gracious and lovely though at some times and in some particulars being provoked and stirred they are erroneous and not justifiable Anabaptist And this they d ee still remaine untill the word of God doth work upon them and new mould them so that it is the word that doth change them and not Baptisme For wee finde c. ut infra Answer Mortification and rising to newnesse of life are attributed to Baptisme Rom 6.3 4 5. And salvation by Jesus Christ his resurrection is attributed to Baptisme 1 Pet. 3.21 And therefore for you to exclude Baptisme from having any stroak in the change of man from nature to grace is not to speak according to the language of the Scriptures of God Christ doth sanctisie and cleanse His Church with the washing of water by the word Ephes 5.26 Here the Apostle doth joyn Baptisme and the word as joint-instruments in mans sanctification and therefore you are led by an anti-Apostolicall spirit in excluding Baptisme But now you have forgotten God in your discourse for I said that God doth ordinarily make our baptizing of Infants effectuall to the ends whereunto true Baptisme is appointed And now you say that it is not baptisme that changeth the baptized but the word Well God ordinarily by His word changeth and new mouldeth the baptized in their infancy and so God by His word ordinarily makes baptisme effectuall unto persons that were baptized in their infancy And this is that which wee would have And thus you see that while you had forgotten God in His ordinances of grace you forgot what you were about And why make you such an opposition between the word preached and the Sacraments seeing both are the word of God The word preached is the word audible and the Sacraments are the word visible both the word of God to the fitting of His elect for Heaven Wee baptize with water that 's our duty but it 's Christ that baptizeth with the Holy Ghost We catechise and preach but it 's God that makes His word effectuall to the ends whereunto it 's appointed God must bee look't upon in all His ordinances as a wise worker that makes them all helpful unto one another and one must not exclude another The Infants of the Jewes were circumcised in their infancy but that Sacrament became a long time afterward effectually by the instruction of their teachers Shall we now for this cause exclude circumcision as ineffectuall because God made it not effectuall unto them until a long time after by the instructions of their instructours Answer this and the proportion will hold in paedo-baptisme It 's wild divinity to say that an ordinance is not to bee used unlesse it take effect presently Anabaptist For wee finde them to shew forth as bad fruites after their Baptisme as the vilest creatures that bee so that if wee should judge of their Baptisme by their fruits before they come to understand the word of God wee may justly say that their Baptisme was abominable by its evill fruits I say if we should judge any thing of the effect of their Baptisme then this wee may judge of it But wee will bee sparing in our censures although from your affirmation we might justly conclude so Yet I say we will be sparing in that and impute those evill fruits and effects that are in children after Baptisme unto their corrupted nature and their Baptisme to bee ineffectuall by its fruits And therefore by all this well considered we may see it is the word that makes the change in the children and others and not their baptisme Thus we plainly see that it is the word that makes them fit for Baptisme and not their parentage Answer We find not all baptized children of Christian parents as bad as this your wicked charge doth import Nay there are creatures worse then the worst of them and therefore you are a false accuser and unjust slanderer and you cannot make it good But you have forgotten the businesse in hand again I told you that God did ordinarily make our baptizing of Infants effectuall to the ends whereunto true Baptisme is appointed in the Gospell And this the Lord may doe though the most of those that we baptize in their infancy prove vitious in their conversation and but few of them religious as long as the Lord doth it ordinarily i. e. by ordinary meanes and usually as by His word and ordinances in His Church for what else can you understand by the word ordinarily I say as long as the Lord doth thus ordinarily make our baptizing of Infants effectuall to the proper ends of true Baptisme appointed in the Gospell though but to a few of the baptized our argument stands good And you can no more conclude from the vitiousnesse of the baptized in infancy that that practice of baptizing Infants is abominable then you may from the vitiousnesse of the Jewes that their circumcision in their infancy was abominable because there were but few of them unto whom God ordinarily made it effectuall to the proper ends whereunto it was appointed in the word for among them there were but few that did beleive in the Messias yield obedience unto Gods holy Law in heart and life And now how just your conclusion is from my premises let all men see And no wonder that you make my premises speak what you please And should we judge