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and_o will_v not_o have_v their_o susceptor_n run_v hazard_n by_o become_a surety_n for_o they_o so_o that_o this_o be_v but_o a_o fallacious_a way_n of_o conclude_v à _fw-la dicto_fw-la secundum_fw-la quid_fw-la ad_fw-la dictum_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la something_o more_o we_o shall_v add_v of_o justin_n occasional_o afterward_o sect_n ii_o rabanus_n be_v the_o next_o witness_n to_o propos_fw-fr 3._o which_o say_v the_o catechism_n which_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n must_v go_v before_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n he_o be_v anno_fw-la 840._o when_o none_o question_n the_o constant_a use_n of_o paedobaptism_n and_o so_o the_o intent_n be_v not_o touch_v what_o be_v to_o go_v before_o their_o baptism_n but_o what_o be_v to_o precede_v the_o baptism_n of_o pagan_n or_o jew_n turn_v to_o the_o faith_n rabanus_n de_fw-fr institutione_n clericorum_fw-la have_v that_o passage_n of_o the_o four_o carthage_n council_n those_o which_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v be_v to_o give_v in_o their_o name_n and_o be_v to_o be_v long_o under_o abstinence_n of_o wine_n and_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o in_o the_o same_o place_n say_v whether_o infant_n or_o young_a man_n come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n they_o no_o soon_o approach_v to_o the_o font_n of_o life_n but_o the_o unclean_a spirit_n be_v drive_v away_o from_o they_o by_o the_o exorcise_a of_o the_o priest_n etc._n etc._n these_o be_v no_o contrary_n but_o may_v very_o well_o stand_v together_o with_o rabanus_n that_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v be_v so_o prepare_v thereto_o scil_n if_o adult_n and_o yet_o infant_n also_o not_o capable_a of_o such_o preparation_n may_v and_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v wherefore_o this_o be_v still_o but_o rack_a of_o author_n to_o make_v they_o speak_v that_o which_o they_o never_o intend_v sect_n iii_o basil_n be_v the_o next_o author_n bring_v in_o contra_fw-la eunomium_fw-la l._n 3._o say_v
to_o tertullian_n and_o other_o of_o his_o mind_n deny_v it_o to_o be_v any_o ground_n of_o baptise_v any_o 2_o he_o counsel_v as_o the_o treatise_n have_v it_o that_o unmarried_a folk_n shall_v have_v their_o baptism_n also_o defer_v while_o they_o yet_o suffer_v tenttaion_n the_o treatise_n indeed_o say_v young_a unmarried_a virgin_n but_o tertullia_n word_n be_v innupti_n unmarried_a person_n of_o what_o age_n soever_o now_o how_o do_v anabaptist_n like_o tertullia_n counsel_n herein_o suppose_v a_o person_n never_o marry_v what_o must_v he_o never_o be_v baptize_v as_o never_o yet_o suffer_v this_o tentation_n or_o suppose_v young_a person_n of_o 20._o or_o 30._o year_n old_a judge_v to_o be_v believer_n but_o yet_o not_o marry_v they_o belong_v to_o god_n kingdom_n but_o have_v not_o yet_o suffer_v such_o tentation_n must_v their_o baptism_n now_o be_v defer_v upon_o this_o ground_n of_o tertullian_n because_o not_o marry_v or_o not_o yet_o go_v through_o such_o tentation_n i_o trow_v not_o then_o tertullia_n counsel_n about_o delay_n of_o baptism_n be_v not_o good_a it_o seem_v 3_o he_o counsel_v delay_n of_o baptism_n of_o any_o to_o easter_n and_o pentecost_n albeit_o therein_o he_o speak_v not_o so_o peremptory_o as_o in_o the_o other_o be_v this_o good_a counsel_n to_o put_v baptism_n to_o such_o set_a time_n of_o the_o year_n when_o yet_o no_o time_n be_v set_v in_o the_o scripture_n both_o john_n and_o christ_n disciple_n and_o the_o apostle_n baptize_v at_o any_o time_n of_o the_o year_n i_o suppose_v this_o counsel_n will_v not_o down_o with_o they_o 4_o he_o counsel_v delay_n of_o infant_n baptism_n for_o it_o be_v but_o his_o counsel_n at_o the_o most_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o other_o answer_v therein_o that_o argument_n which_o even_o in_o his_o time_n be_v use_v for_o paedobaptism_n not_o first_o by_o zuinglius_fw-la scil_n suffer_v little_a child_n to_o come_v unto_o i_o and_o forbid_v they_o not_o etc._n etc._n yea_o say_v tertullian_n let_v they_o come_v indeed_o but_o dum_fw-la adolescant_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o they_o be_v grow_v up_o etc._n etc._n he_o yield_v it_o to_o be_v a_o ground_n of_o their_o come_n to_o christ_n and_o that_o by_o baptism_n as_o one_o way_n of_o their_o come_n to_o he_o but_o not_o of_o their_o come_n so_o soon_o but_o rather_o when_o they_o themselves_o can_v ask_v it_o etc._n etc._n this_o be_v his_o gloss_n upon_o the_o place_n but_o how_o absurd_a be_v this_o gloss_n as_o if_o christ_n intent_n in_o rebuke_v the_o disciple_n for_o hinder_v those_o babe_n from_o come_v to_o he_o be_v thus_o you_o do_v very_o evil_a to_o hinder_v those_o babe_n from_o come_v now_o to_o i_o for_o my_o blessing_n like_o they_o in_o like_a case_n because_o they_o and_o other_o like_o they_o shall_v rather_o come_v when_o they_o be_v more_o grow_v up_o when_o they_o know_v i_o when_o they_o themselves_o and_o not_o as_o now_o their_o parent_n only_o can_v ask_v and_o desire_v it_o at_o my_o hand_n etc._n etc._n but_o why_o then_o be_v these_o disciple_n rebuke_v for_o seek_v to_o put_v by_o their_o come_n so_o young_a and_o not_o themselves_o desire_v to_o come_v nay_o then_o very_o the_o disciple_n rather_o be_v in_o the_o right_n which_o will_v have_v have_v they_o stay_v long_o and_o not_o christ_n which_o urge_v it_o as_o a_o argument_n for_o come_v at_o that_o time_n and_o according_o at_o that_o time_n fulfil_v the_o parent_n desire_v in_o blessing_n of_o the_o babe_n but_o none_o herein_o sure_o will_v own_o tertullian_n another_o testimony_n of_o tertullia_n be_v urge_v to_o confirm_v the_o five_o proposition_n scil_n that_o de_fw-fr corona_fw-la militis_fw-la when_o we_o come_v together_o to_o the_o water_n and_o a_o little_a before_o we_o do_v promise_v there_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o minister_n that_o we_o will_v renounce_v the_o devil_n and_o his_o pomp_n and_o be_v duck_v three_o time_n and_o say_v no_o more_o thereto_o than_o what_o the_o lord_n command_v in_o the_o gospel_n and_o as_o we_o go_v out_o of_o the_o water_n wherein_o we_o be_v baptize_v we_o eat_v milk_n and_o honey_n together_o and_o refrain_v that_o whole_a week_n from_o wash_v and_o bathe_v so_o far_o in_o the_o treatise_n but_o the_o author_n leave_v out_o what_o follow_v ibid._n we_o make_v oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a for_o our_o birthday_n yearly_a and_o a_o little_a after_o we_o cross_v ourselves_o at_o every_o step_n and_o in_o every_o place_n sit_v down_o and_o rise_v up_o etc._n etc._n all_o this_o prove_v what_o the_o adulti_fw-la do_v and_o what_o be_v require_v of_o they_o at_o their_o baptism_n but_o this_o disprove_v not_o but_o that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v in_o use_n and_o that_o they_o do_v promise_v as_o much_o by_o other_o for_o why_o else_o do_v tertullian_n give_v his_o counsel_n as_o be_v suppose_v against_o the_o same_o yea_o that_o notwithstanding_o tertullia_n argument_n there_o baptise_v of_o infant_n without_o require_v from_o they_o personal_a confession_n of_o faith_n be_v a_o right_a use_n of_o the_o institution_n yea_o i_o wonder_v the_o treatise_n bring_v this_o testimony_n to_o prove_v the_o right_a use_n of_o baptism_n according_a to_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n what_o be_v those_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a by_o the_o person_n baptize_v and_o those_o superstitious_a cross_n forbear_v of_o wash_n and_o speech_n eat_v milk_n and_o honey_n etc._n etc._n be_v these_o according_a to_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n and_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n sure_o no._n sect_n ii_o the_o next_o testimony_n be_v take_v from_o counsel_n and_o decretall_n either_o ex_fw-la concilio_fw-la gerundensi_fw-la concern_v the_o catechumeni_fw-la or_o those_o that_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n say_v this_o treatise_n it_o be_v ordain_v that_o they_o shall_v all_o come_v at_o easter_n and_o pentecost_n this_o be_v the_o proof_n of_o the_o four_o proposition_n that_o the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a etc._n etc._n as_o if_o the_o catechuman_n be_v only_o the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a when_o all_o adult_a pagan_n be_v such_o and_o say_v that_o adult_n child_n too_o of_o person_n join_v to_o the_o church_n but_o former_o pagan_n be_v among_o the_o catechuman_n yet_o not_o their_o babe_n babe_n be_v baptize_v both_o before_o the_o superstitious_a limit_v or_o order_v of_o limit_v the_o time_n of_o baptism_n as_o we_o prove_v and_o whilst_o it_o be_v in_o force_n too_o as_o we_o prove_v out_o of_o austin_n sermon_n four_o in_o octavo_fw-la paschae_fw-la ad_fw-la neophytos_fw-la yea_o the_o concilium_fw-la gerundense_a can._n 3._o have_v these_o word_n de_fw-fr parvulis_fw-la etc._n etc._n concern_v little_a one_o new_o bear_v it_o be_v ordain_v that_o if_o they_o be_v weak_a as_o be_v usual_a and_o that_o they_o desire_v not_o to_o suck_v that_o even_o the_o same_o day_n they_o be_v bear_v they_o if_o they_o be_v bring_v may_v be_v baptize_v so_o that_o this_o be_v the_o old_a trick_n of_o conclude_v à _fw-la dicto_fw-la secundum_fw-la quid_fw-la ad_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la neither_o be_v any_o other_o conclusion_n to_o be_v make_v from_o the_o next_o proof_n ex_fw-la concilio_fw-la laodicensi_fw-la the_o disciple_n or_o scholar_n in_o the_o faith_n who_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v must_v before_o learn_v the_o faith_n and_o then_o upon_o the_o thursday_n the_o last_o week_n in_o lent_n must_v acknowledge_v the_o same_o before_o the_o priest_n or_o bishop_n which_o be_v repeat_v in_o confirmation_n of_o the_o five_o proposition_n and_o the_o former_a answer_n be_v full_a to_o this_o objection_n which_o be_v even_o now_o mention_v so_o ex_fw-la consilio_fw-la martini_n and_o nicolai_n pope_n which_o be_v again_o urge_v proposition_n five_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la must_v first_o learn_v the_o creed_n what_o be_v intend_v to_o adult_v pagan_n by_o your_o counsel_n be_v prevent_v to_o conclude_v against_o the_o child_n babe_n and_o all_o contrary_a to_o martin_n intent_n who_o be_v anno_fw-la 646._o long_v after_o the_o unquestionable_a use_n of_o paedobaptism_n and_o nicolaus_n be_v after_o he_o no_o more_o be_v intend_v by_o that_o quotation_n in_o the_o decretall_n ex_fw-la augustino_n ad_fw-la fortunatum_fw-la when_o a_o catechumen_n be_v baptize_v he_o make_v confession_n etc._n etc._n as_o appear_v by_o austin_n in_o the_o place_n former_o quote_v concilium_fw-la bracharense_n be_v quote_v but_o not_o which_o first_o or_o second_o etc._n etc._n nor_o what_o word_n and_o so_o concilium_fw-la anterse_n in_o like_a fashion_n but_o why_o be_v not_o the_o word_n mention_v if_o for_o their_o purpose_n but_o lest_o such_o blind_a whisperer_n and_o item_n beget_v suspicion_n it_o be_v likely_a the_o author_n if_o they_o ever_o see_v the_o canon_n intend_v it_o of_o that_o canon_n concilii_fw-la bracharensis_fw-la primi_fw-la that_o 20._o day_n before_o baptism_n let_v the_o catechumen_n all_o