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A56405	A revindication set forth by William Parker, in the behalfe of Dr. Drayton deceased, and himself of the possibility of a total mortification of sin in this life: and, of the saints perfect obedience to the law of God: to be the orthodox Protestant doctrine, and no innovations (as they are falsly charged to be) of Dr. Drayton and W. Parker; in an illogicall vindication, wherein the necessity of sins remaining in the best saints as long as they live, and the impossibility of perfect obedience to the law of God, is ignorantly and perversly avouched to to [sic] be the orthodox Protestant doctrine; by one who subscribeth his name John Tendring. ...	Parker, William, fl. 1651-1658.	1658 (1658)	Wing P486A; ESTC R200724	221,023	288

when we have answered we will pay him in his own coine That it was the prerogative of Christ alone among all grown men to know no sin and to be found solus in hominibus qualis quaerebatur in pecoribus not in peccoribus as he hath it alone such among men as was sought among the beasts an unblamable lamb without spot Here he having cited Isaiah 53.6 saying we like sheep have gone astray and Gal. 3.23 that the Scripture hath concluded all under sin he might have spared Augustine contra Pelag. lib. 2. cap. 13. and Gregorie lib. 3. in Reg. cap. 6. saying There is no man that hath not some corruption in him which he may and should lament For take all this as spoken of the unregenerate man or the regenerate that hath not fulfilled his course with Paul 2 Tim. 4.7 and we have often affirmed the same But he brings Hieronymus contra Jovinian lib. 2. saying No man is clean from sin though he live but one day upon the long earth Which is true of the sinful earth spoken of Collos 3.5 mortifie therefore your members upon earth although we know that in that saying Hierom and others suffered the Septuagints ill translation of Job to impose upon them But we had almost lest out Lactantius whom contra Gentes lib. 6. cap. 13. he alledgeth saying No man can be without sin so as he is burthened with the garment of the flesh We say so likewise if he understand it of that flesh which Saint Jude speaks of vers 23. hating even the garment spotted by the flesh if otherwise he himself was Lactantick with Lactantius Further he brings Bernard upon Cant. serm 2. saying Non peccare Dei justitia est not to sin is the justice and property of God but remission of sin is the justice of man To which we say that the former is but true in part for the elect Angels never sinned and the latter scarcely true at all for remission of sins is one thing and righteousness is another And where the remission of sin follows the righteousness of sanctification to purge them away must go before of necessity Acts 26.18 Sed unus Bernardus non vidit omnia And his own conclusions there are as false for saith he As the Ivy will not die untill the Oke be cut down but Experience shews that if you cut the Ivy at the root it will forthwith die so our sins will not die as long as we live which is as false as the other neither will it ever be abolished until death ends the conflict between the flesh and Spirit Then death which is but a privation is stronger then the Spirit And such Quacks as he is have a good warrant and pretence to kill many yea were it many thousands for by this means according to his doctrine they should put an end to this conflict of sin and send men presently to be perfected in glory Here not only souldiers whose trade is to kill but high-way-men poysoners and all murderers especially of the Saints might find a strong plea for their murders But he brings us more of this Ambrosia out of Ambrose de Paenit lib. 6. cap. 1. saying It is not the voice of thy family I am whole and need not a physician but heale me O Lord and I shall be healed But if it be the voice of his family of what family is the Vindicator who saith that the Lord cannot or will not heal us is it death that must do that work for us is it not the voice of his family first to come to him for an absolute cure and then with the woman who was cured of her bloody issue and the cleansed leper and many others to come and give God thanks But he goes on page 23 24. with Ambrose speaking thus to the Novatian hereticks of his time and saith it may fitly be turned to the Jesuits of our time Darest thou O Jesuit call thy self clean and holy albeit thou wert clean in regard of thy workes this one word were enough to make thee unclean To which I say first that the way wherein Paul worshipped the God of his Fathers was called Heresie Acts 24.14 Secondly we know no Jesuit that counts himself perfect unless it be by his profession But we hope that he will not henceforth when it cometh to a trial at Law deny that be called us Jesuits which is no less then to accuse us of a capital crime no better then treason for which by Gods Law he ought to suffer death himself unless he can prove it Deut. 19.17 18 19. or to incurre a great mulct for his slander above that the Jury awarded at Sarum March 15. 1657. But lastly this pretender to no less degree then of a Doctor of Divinity doth not see that there is a gross absurdity if not contradiction in the words which he fathers upon Ambrose saying albeit thou wert clean in regard of thy works this one word I am clean which in that case is but the truth were enough to make thee unclean We hope the Vindicator hereafter will not be too forward to speak the truth any more then he hath done heretofore lest as he saith out of Ambrose it make him unclean But he giveth us presently some Nectar to his Ambrosia saying with him agreeth Augustine Serm. 29. de verbis Apost There are some like vessels that are blown up with wind filled with an haughty spirit of election not sollidly great but swelled with the humour of pride who dare be bold to say that there are men found upon earth without sin Why are there no promises of such persons see Isai 1.24.25 And I will turn mine hand upon thee and purely purge away thy dross and take away all thy tin See chap. 4.4 and 11 19. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain for the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the Lord as the waters that cover the sea Eze. 36.25 I will pour clean water upon them and from all their filthinesse and from all their jdols will I cleanse them Zeph. 3.13 The house of Jsrael shall do no iniquity nor speak lyes But we know what sort of Protestants at this day are puffed up with the spirit of election And it seemeth the Vindicator being conscious to himselfe or his party did not English those words of Augustine inflati viri spiritu electionis pleni men puffed up filled with the spirit of election though for him we do it But the Father demands of such How sayst thou that art just and holy this prayer Forgive us our sins Yes such may say with Saint Math. chap. 6.12 forgive us our debts to wit of love and thankfulnesse to God yea and of love to men for his sake which debt is so great that it can never to all eternity be paid Rom. 13.6 Owe nothing to any man but to love one another and with Saint Luk. chap. 11.9 they can say also Forgive us

Israel of the God of this world spoken of 2 Cor. 4.4 to be prevailers in maintaining that sin and disobedience to the law of the righteous and just God will remain in the best Saints if they be no better then our selves are yet by confession and practise as long as they live That being the end for which we are what we are in all reviling and slandering the said Doctor Drayton and Parker under the horrid names of Jesults and Factors for Rome even for such Saints at Rome who were most eminent above others in Neroe's house when Paul was there Phil. 4.22 I say even for to make them more odious to our sin-maintaining party I am not unwilling to spend my lungs to reproch Jesuits and Factors for Rome as all can witness that heard my scurrulous invective at Wisfoord near Wilton against the said Parker for preaching such poysonful doctrine at Wilton of a possibility of a total mortification of sin in this life of which doctrine I wished the people of Wilton who flocked to heare me to take heed of and not endure to heare the said Parker preach any such doctrine for I told them spreading my paper on the Pulpit-cushion like Rabsicaes letter that the said doctrine will sink himselfe and his hearers to hed if our doctrine for sinne remaining in us as long as we live do at any time advance and lift us up to heaven Your selves my fellow Levites like Simeon and Levi brethren to maintain iniquity are now upon the stage as I tell you in my next paragraph to act your parts Therefore it doth concern you to joyn hand in hand with me in maintaining our positions for they are begun as I told you to be spoken against in publ que by our enemies whom I could not disswade nor terrifie from so doing though I told them openly before a cloud of witnesses that if they did publish such doctrines to the people against the necessity of sin remaining in the best Saints as long as they live they would pull all the Ministers of my mind which are too too many in the countrey about their ears His words spoken in Wilton Church because if it should be so as our enemies affirm the people would soon charge their Ministers with preaching a long time many lies to them for telling them so frequently that sinne will remain in the best Saints as long as they live as an Alderman of Milton told my selfe presently after Doctor Drayton had preached the Sermon now in Print on 2 Cor. 7.1 for cleansing away all fil hinesse of the flesh and spirit that if the said doctrine were true which Doctor Drayton had delivered I my self had taught at Milton many lies which wounded me to the heart though it were so to be told it to my face and the people in short time will say my fellow Levites as much to your faces as I was told if the doctrines of our enemies to sins continuance in best Saints come to be received more generally among all sorts of people Therefore arm up you courage my indeared fellow-brethren for s●●● cause and muster up the forsee you seem to have and fight as I bid you in the said paragraph being likewise upon the stage while our enemies yet stand below this boon sight of our traditional faith That sin will remain in us as long as we live by reason of the want of faith to beleeve the contrary for it is said Mat. 13.58 where it is said Christ could do no great works there because of their unbelief Now if thus you do my united brethren I assure my self and you as I tell you in my last paragraph that our victory if we can overcome our enemies though it be but by Club-law as they did Rev. 11.17 will be glorious among all lovers of sinful pleasures and profits more then lovers of God and his holinesse for then we may as they did Rev. 11.10 rejoyce and be merry if we can still perswade weak capacities to be confident that sin will remain in the best Saints as long as they live because then we our selves shall still be accounted for such Saints among the people and also every man whose teeth continuall water after the apples of Sodom will then think his own beloved sin how worthy soever it be to be hated is the only innate corruption and infirmity that will and must remain in him as long as he liveth Thus you see friends how glorious our victory is like to be if we can prevaile in the eyes of all Epicures and lovers of sinfull profits and pleasures But indeed we do but dissemble and lye when we say it will be glorious through Jesus Christ for Christ is not saith the Apostle Gal. 2.17 the Minister of sin for he came to redeem all his Saints from all iniquity Tit 2.14 and purifie to himself a peculiar people zealous of good works therefore to him belongeth better glory for ever and ever to be given to him from such as those Ephes 5.27 28. who are sanctified and washed in water by the word then can accrue to him by our best Saints who plead to have sin remain in them as long as they live to which all truly enlightened Saints say Amen namely that Christ may have more glory from his eminent Saints by their being purged from all sin then can redound to him from the constant cleaving of sin to them as long as they live which is contrary to God and Christ and the holy Spirit yea so contrary to the Saints pure happiness as nothing can be more opposite thereunto This is the Paraphrase that Mr. John Tendering must have made himself of his preface if required to explain it as consonant and in reference to his positions that sin and disobedience to Gods law will remain in the best of Saints as long as they live therefore we could give no other paraphrase upon his preface consideratis considerandis then what we have for substance delivered to Mr. John's friends whereby they may see his naked mind under the covert of Scripture-phrases by which he would deceive the hearts of simple and well-meaning people and therefore we hope his friends will not say that we have abused him and wrested his words in his preface from his own design Because we are perswaded his friends will not have him speak in his preface heterogeneals to the positions in his Vindication for then he doth abuse them and make them believe that in his book to be one of his beloved truths which he doth contradict in his preface if he mean not according to our paraphr●se and so with coloured words deceiveth the hearts of his many allies which relie upon his lying oracles Again if men do not mean their prefaces to be respectively in reference to their subsequent designs then their preface and their book will not be consentanies but disparates and the author of them a dissentany altornis vicibus to them both therefore Mr.