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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A79570	The church-man and the Quaker dialoguing: with a reply to an answer to a late pamphlet, called, A sober dialogue between a Scotch Presbyterian, a London church-man, and a real Quaker		1699 (1699)	Wing C3997; ESTC R231838	14,460	32

THE Church-Man AND THE QUAKER Dialoguing WITH A REPLY TO AN Answer to a late Pamphlet CALLED A Sober Dialogue between a Scotch Presbyterian a London Church-Man and a Real Quaker Psalm XXXVII 12. The Wicked plotteth against the Just and gnasheth upon him with his Teeth 13. The Lord shall laugh at him for he seeth that his day is coming LONDON Printed and Sold by the Booksellers of London and Westminster 1699. THE Church-Man AND THE QUAKER Dialoguing Church-man SO old Friend I perceive you still keep among the Quakers Quaker Yea for I find no cause to leave them Ch. That 's strange if what I hear since I came to Town be true Qu. What hast thou heard Ch. I hear you are Charged with Blasphemy against God Christ and the Holy Scriptures and with great Contempt of Civil Magistracy and the Ordinances which Jesus Christ Instituted viz. Baptism by Water and the Lord's Supper with Bread and Wine And the Light within as taught by you leaves you without any certain Rule and exposes you to the aforementioned and many other Blasphemies Qu. It 's true we are so Charged by some few hot Rectors in Norfolk But if thou wilt Impartially Peruse the Defence lately Printed in Reply to those Priests I doubt not but it may tend to thy Satisfaction to which I refer thee Ch. Say you so but what do you think of a late Serious Dialogue between a Church-Man and a Quaker Qu. I think that saying is fulfilled Evil Men and Seducers wax worse and worse and that the old Enemy to true Peace and Righteousness is stirring up his Agents to disquiet those that are quiet in the Land and to raise the Spirit of Persecution in order to their Destruction Ch. Persecution I cannot think so for that never did any good for it is one of the bad Practices of the Papists and from Popery and such Slavery I hope we are now deliver'd and shall no more be concern'd in any such work for I believe that it is neither pleasing to the King nor Parliament But this Dialogue I mention insinuates that you say ye are of the same Faith with us and that ye grosly Pervert a Passage in our Common-Prayer Qu. If your Faith be in God and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit and hath Christ for its Author we are of the same Faith and if you believe what you call the Gospel to be read for Christmas-day and what is written in your Common-Prayer concerning Inspiration in what Fundamental Doctrine that is Essential to Salvation do we differ Ch. But your old Friend G. K. in a Postscript to this Dialogue saith I am ready to prove Face to Face before any Judicatory Ecclesiastical or Civil what is asserted in this Dialogue And therein as I remember the Quaker is made to confess That if Christ as without us and as some call him God-Man be held forth to be the necessary Object of Faith for Eternal Salvation it quite overturns our whole Fabrick Qu. If so then G. K. is one of them that quite overturns that Fabrick in saying God and Christ as inwardly Revealed is the Object of Faith And he farther adds That altho' the Preaching of Christ without us in his Birth Life Suffering Death Resurrection Ascention Intercession c. is a very considerable part of the Doctrine and of the Gospel yet it is but an integral part such as the Hands and Feet of a Man without which a Man may subsist So may true Religion and Christianity subsist without the History of Christ in the Letter to wit in the Mystery of the Life of Christ in the Spirit with much more to the same purpose Ch. But peradventure he hath retracted this Doctrine Qu. And so he may any thing that he now writes by the same Rule for he hath declared in publick Print That if once People were persuaded and convinced in their Consciences that God did teach and would teach them who wait on him Then the whole Clergy and their so call'd Theology Philosophy Schools Colleges and their Church the People would turn their Backs upon and their Colleges would become like the Abacies at this day which lodged that prophane Rabble of Papists Monks and Friars who pretend as great Spirituality as the National Priests do an Habitation for Owls and Ravenous Beasts and then down should all the proud lording lofty Clergy with their many Degrees of Doctorships Lordships and Masterships pass who being strangers to the true Knowledge which is Life Peace Joy and Satisfaction in full Assurance to the Soul are vainly puff'd up in their Fleshly Minds by the Form of Knowledge in the Letter as I was my self whilst amongst them and thought all Men Idiots Ch. If this be true I fear it 's now his Condition too much and his Exclaiming against you now is but what he once did against us and may again And indeed there is some cause to think he is more Envious than Sincere and acts little from Conviction for what he seems to blame you for viz. the disuse of the Institution of Christ's Baptism with Water the Sacraments as we use them he is not in the Practice of neither doth he seek to be Qualified to be a Minister among us of the Church of England or is he owned by any other Society of Protestants since he turned from you Quakers against whom he now Enveighs and Exhibits heavy Charges as if you denied the Lord that bought you and did not own Jesus Christ for a necessary Object of your Faith as he died for Remission of Sins and as his Blood was shed and as he rose again and ascended into Heaven in our Nature as we say and is now in Heaven making Intercession for Men Qu. I could easily shew how in his former Fit he render'd those of thy Coat the Priests Gullers and Cheats and said It lay upon him from the Lord to depart from those Teachers And how he confesseth he came and heard Men and Women who were taught of God who pointed him to the True Principle tho' some of them could not read a Letter yet he found them wiser than all the Teachers he ever formerly had been under And if now he Belies and falsly Accuseth us and Misrepresents us as Erronious and Unsound in some Points of Christian Doctrine not Fundamental or Essential to Salvation he will not I persume say of the People called Quakers as of the School-men and National Teachers Doctrine of whom he saith They generally being Men void of all Sense and Feeling of God have in the blindness of their Minds and in the Wisdom from below that is Carnal Earthly and Devilish formed and invented Perverse Doctrine for their own Gains and Ends And renders the Members by Whole-sale of the National Churches a mixed confused Rabble of Godless Atheists and as much Clamour as he now makes against us and Noise about Christ without he hath asserted That which makes the true Church Ministry and Worship is Jesus