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A59958	William Penn and the Quakers either impostors, or apostates which they please: proved from their avowed principles, and contrary practices. By Trepidantium Malleus.	Shewen, William, 1631?-1695.	1696 (1696)	Wing S3427A; ESTC R221166	53,999	145

notorious secret Drunkard as his Wife confessed but would have hid it she being a Quaker too I have known others that selling strong Waters would let the vilest of the Parish drink as much as they would till Drunk and yet one such would say to me Wilt thou tell me against what I feel and handle of the word of life Wet and drie Quakers is a distinction in other places besides Bristol Question 3. Are they not very humble Persons No They are more proud of their plainness than others of their bravery Baptism and the Lords Supper are things too mean for them Shells c. but they were not too mean for the Son of God What good will a little Water a little Bread and Wine do me It is true the things be not changed in their Nature though in their Use What good will a little Paper a little Ink a little Wax do me may a Pardoned Man say when he reads the King's Pardon to him Some now use the Lord's Supper Barclay in his Apol. says He would not condemn them that do Question 4. Are they not more just in their dealings than others and most careful not to tell a Lie and say one thing and do another These things are among some of them and among others too yea Turks themselves Yet by the way It is not unlawful to say one thing and do another on the change of the mind 19. Gen. 2 3. The Angel was desired by Lot to come into his House Nay said he but we will tarry in the street all night yet when Lot pressed upon them they went in They observed Providence their intentions altered If they had Sinned had Lied they had never found their way back again to Heaven By the way let all look to it of what perswasion soever if they lie for Gain they are not upright To say things Cost them so much They never sold them Cheaper They are as Good as can be had for Money and know all to be false and continue in this Sin they may call themselves Christians and others may call them so but Christ will call them workers of iniquity The getting of treasures by a lying tongue is a vanity tost to and fro by them that seek death saith Solomon 21. Prov. 16. Death seeks not them but they court it When I wrote to you did I use lightness according to the flesh saith Paul that with me it should be yea and nay but as God is true he makes God his Example But as Christ is true saith Paul to the Corinthians 2 Cor. 1.17 18 19 20. all the promises of God in Christ are yea let ours be so To say I will do such a thing bring it to you at such a day and know you cannot or resolve you will not and so for paying of Money and to make this a common practice is no more consistent with Grace than Drunkenness or Theft Complemental Lyes are an abomination in the sight of a Holy God To say I am glad to see you I thank you for your good Company Pray eat You eat nothing When not a word of this is true and the person that says it was weary of their Company as it may be vain and therefore undesirable and know they eat very freely or more than they need Some Quakers are careful here and so are others would all were so such as are not are cursed The Quakers the great ones in Talking and Printing are not free from Lying George Bishop in his Book of Martyrs called New-England judged not by man's Spirit but the Spirit of the Lord How doth he represent the Whipping of the Quakers there What Strokes were fetch'd Flesh brought off with the Whips Which Mr. Blinman then of New-England professed to me he never there heard of They cursed Magistrates and Ministers in the street blasphemed Christ and Scripture If they were banished they returned again so that some were put to death I know some of their Chief Leaders whose Tenderness this way was not very great but spoke as if they thought a Lye now and then for Friends might be excused Q. Have not the Quakers more of the Spirit than others No nor as much They poor men must not run before their Guide Must wait for the Spirit 's Call to Prayer I pray How came they and the Spirit such strangers that it calls them not all the Day long all the Week long all the Month long all the Year long to pray alone or in their Families Always to pray in their sense is never to pray and every day a Sabbath is no day so I knew a Quakers Meeting where I believe was not a Sentence spoken from Month to Month in a time of danger but when a Toleration came out then they were inspired by it to purpose They all talk of The Light within a Phrase that was never used but once in Scripture and that too what was seeming Light but real Darkness Mat. 6.22 yet they mean not the same thing by it Commonly they understand by it Conscience and that this Light tells a man when he doth evil and when he doth good and that it was in all men always And when we press'd them with such places as these They that kill you shall think they do God good service John 16.2 I verily thought with my self that I was bound to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth saith Paul when he persecuted They could not tell what to say But now Barclay tells us The Light comes in the time of the Lord's Visitation or day of Grace to every man if it be received it abides if not withdraws That this Light is not God yet some inspired Friends by the way said it was nor a Quality but a Substance and calls it a Vehiculum Dei That the Turks have a Light sometimes that tells them Mahomet was a Deceiver the Christian Religion is true Away Poor Robin with thy borrow'd Collections out of the Fathers Now says he this is a Supernatural thing that comes not at the will of the Creature therefore we are no Arminians yet it is a Resistible Work and so we are no Calvinists but our way is a middle saith he between both I was surprized when I read it knowing all the Quakers I conversed with had no such Notions of the Light within I pray How shall I appeal to the Lord's Witness in every man and the Testimony of God in his Conscience Why it may be I speak too soon the Light is not yet come or too late now it is gone Any thing Now it is not God which some Friends said and that it was to be worshipped as if a man should worship his own Convictions and this made some call the Quakers Idolaters as the Scots and others and now R. Vickris defends Barclay against Norris Any thing Though some Quakers know not the depth of Satan and seem to speak Orthodoxly of God Christ the Soul c. yet their

Bishop that false deceitful vile Corrupter and Abuser of History c. What were the Titles of the Books Who were the Authors He could not afterwards tell me This Friend of his told me very soberly and calmly That if the Charge against the Quakers of leaving their Meetings in a time of Persecution were true for which they condemned us I had a just Charge against them and they ought to give me satisfaction No Book meddles with these Questions The next morning I sent him another Letter and told him what Excuses I had heard why he would not meet with me which he knew not to be true that I did believe he knew no Reply could be given and therefore declined it and that he had as good tell me so in plain words as thus practically and by interpretation I had promised him if he could give me a satisfactory rational Answer to my Queries I would turn Quaker but not till then And that I had some more Questions to propose to him about which I desired his sober Consideration and that I challenged him to a publick Disputation about them Question 5. Whether it were not great Folly or worse to say That bowing to a man was Idolatry a Breach of the second Commandment a Sin which rather than Mordecai would commit he would run a Risk for his own Life and the Lives of all the Jews and yet after all this Harangue turn this Custom of bowing to men into a common Practice When we were reasoning with them once Did not Abraham bow to the Children of Heth c They would reply If Abraham were satisfied in it we are not following Scripture-Examples hath undone the world and yet of late years they observe that civil decent Ceremony By the way Reader give me leave to tell a pleasant though plain Story I knew two Grave Learned Divines who parting bowed one to another A zealous Quaker in a great Fury runs to them and said to one of them a facetious man Dost thou not know it is written Thou shalt not bow down The Minister looking on this ignorant impudent Fool with Contempt said to him Dost thou not bow down when thou dost Sh The Quaker replies Thou art a Beast to talk so And said the Minister Thou art a veryer Beast if thou dost not do so Nay Priest said he why talkest thou like a Beast Why said be quotest thou Scripture like a Devil alluding to that Scripture where the Devil setting on Christ cites Scripture of Angels preserving men that they hurt not their feet against the stones but left out in all thy ways Mat. 4.6 So the Quaker names Thou shalt not bow down but left out to graven Images Question 5. Whether it were not unheard-of Dissimulation to tell Oliver Cromwell Thus saith the Lord I have put the Sword into thy hand to to destroy Idolaters the Stuarts and Ma●nants And yet after all to tell K● Charles II. That all this was Rebellion 〈◊〉 that they gave their Testimony against the m● ther of his Father What George Fox and Burroughs did well known He that would fully und●stand this wickedness let him read a li●● Tract done by a curious hand call'd 〈◊〉 Snake in the Grass The best Thing t● ever was written on this Subject 〈◊〉 Pennyman's Papers once a Quaker w● hath out of their Authors shewn h● they always shuffled Principles about ●vernment Scriptures Ministers c. Question 7. Whether it were not great wicked● to pretend to Inspiration Infallibility P● phecies Miracles and yet expound so 〈◊〉 congruous and contrary to Scripture As Pen and I heard George Whitehead to in Bristol on Prov. 9.1 4. Wisdom h● built her a house She cryeth Whose simple let him turn in hither and for 〈◊〉 that is void of understanding A sim●● thing said he is a thing unmixt pure So he that is Holy h●th no Sin Now ●hough the latter part of the Verse explains the former yet this mighty man of theirs that hath printed so many large Books could not see it Besides though the word Simple be an equivocal word in English yet not so in Hebrew for here it fignifieth foolish That a Quaker about a year since in Cullington prophesied from the Lord All Women that are with Child this Year shall die in Childbirth which was far from being true though some in that Case were in great fear If this cost any of them their Lives I cannot contradict it if any should say that this false Prophet deserved to die as much as any Thief or High way-man whatever Reader know these men condemned all Human Literature and asserted Inspiration But can the Spirit in a Quaker contradict the Spirit in the Scripture They say That as if a man speak through a Cane it is not the voice of the Cane though it pass through it but the voice of the Man So it is not the voice of the Quaker but the voice of the Spirit I needed no more to prove them Deceivers but hearing them Yea some have p●● tended to Miracles One came into a House where a Chillay dead and said to the People Weep no the Child is not dead but sleepeth And i● imitation of the Prophet 2 Kings 4.3 Stretcht her self on the Child saying In 〈◊〉 Name of Jesus of Nazareth arise I suppose Reader I need not tell thee that th● Soul of the Child returned not to it again● A Story well known and by whon● among Bristol Friends A Quaker told me that it was said George Fox could by Inspiration speak a● Languages where the Lord sent him an● restored a Man to Life who broke hi● Neck Impudent Falshoods I knew a Woman about 22 years since who must fast 40 days and 40 nights b●● soon died and would have eat but cou● not L S of Bristol before named asserted he was as much Inspired as wa● the Prophet yea as Balaam's Ass Thi● Inspired Ass after a continued idle Life fell ill of the Diabetes by drinking alway● Red-streak Cyder When on his Death Bed he said to his Physician Dr. Griffin who told me the Story I shall not die ● shall be in such a place by such a day If should now die the Lord would reveal it to me But the Fool soon turn'd up his Trotters and died The Spirit say they is Infallible What then doth it make us so God is Omnipotent Omnisicient doth he make us so This L S the Inspired Ass once found out a notable place of Scripture for taking away Baptism and the Lord's Supper Isa 3.1 For behold the Lord takes away the stay of bread There is the Supper said he and of Water there is Baptism as honest Mr. Blinman a Minister had it from him and told me the Story Now who would talk with such profane Wretches thus playing with Scripture AFter this I receiv'd a Letter from William Penn who told me That he had consulted some Bristol Friends and they told him I was a Hot-headed man and a Persecutor