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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A54931	Truth vindicated and the lyars refuge swept away being an answer to a book set forth by Thomas Collier called A looking-glasse for Quakers, and also to some particulars in a book of his called A dialogue &c. : wherein the truth is cleared from those slanders ... : also an answer to his queries in the end of the book ... : together with an epistle to the people called Baptists ... / published by ... John Pitman, Jasper Batt.	Pitman, John, d. 1658?; Batt, Jasper, d. 1702.	1658 (1658)	Wing P2299; ESTC R28442	57,250	71

and Prophets who stole the words c. against whom the true Ministers recorded in the Scriptures were sent by the Lord to bear witnesse and the same is witnessed in this day of the Lord For on him do we wait to know his will and receive his counsell and as he commands we obey and when we have received a word from him and a command to utter it we dare not dispute but obey and speak as the spirit gives utterance and untill then we dare not but be silent for such as runs and the Lord sends not shall not profit the hearers and so not to take a Message that another hath received and run with it when the Lord never commanded us And this also we say the baptisme of Christ we have received and the communion of his body we partake and do discern it even one Lord one Faith one Baptisme And if he shall command us to go into the water and to eate bread and drink wine together we shall be obedient but to do it our selves or administer it to others because some of the Saints did it we dare not unlesse we are commanded of the Lord for such as medled with the things of God and not commanded by him nor as he commanded though some of them might have good intentions in what they did yet the Lord shewed his high displeasure on them by severe punishments and sending his faithfull servants to testifie against them witnesse Nadab and Abihu the men of Bethshemesh Vzza Saul and the false Prophets who stole the words from their neighbour and run when the Lord never sent them And therefore let all such as do things by imitation of the Saints in Scripture or of others who obeyed the commands of God and have not received the like authority as they had feare and tremble and take warning in time lest the Lord make them examples of his wrath and indignation as he hath done others before Now let no envious cavilling or ignorant person slander us and say we deny the Scripture for of the truth thereof are we witnesses And also of the spirit of truth which gave them forth which was and is the Saints guide and leader and dearly do we owne them and this is the truth from our hearts Page 4. Another of his lies charged upon us is That we disown the coming of Christ from heaven And for proof of this he brings E. B. in his Book called The true faith of the Gospel wherein he saith The very Christ of God is within us we dare not deny him c. Now T. C. saith If the very Christ of God be within them he cannot come from heaven E. B. further saying they that are led by the spirit of Delusion shall answer the rest of thy Query by which saith T. C. he gives to understand that those that owns the being in and coming of Christ from heaven and looks for him are led by a spirit of Delusion So that they do not only condemn the generation of the just c. but the Saints of God in the primitive dayes How is this man hasting to fill up his measure of lies and slanders against the innocent Doth E. B. because he saith The very Christ of God is within us deny his coming from heaven Might it not rather have been from thence concluded that he witnessed his coming But T. C. is found adding three lies instead of clearing himselfe of one for he saith that E. B. gives to understand that those that own the being in and coming of Christ from heaven and look for him are led by a spirit of Delusion 2 That we condemn the generation of the just that are now waiting for the Son from heaven 3 And the Saints and servants of God in the Primitive dayes He further saith that it is no part of Naylers Creed in his Love to the Lost the Ascention Intercession and coming of Christ observe Naylers Creed a scoffing vain light spirit the Scripture in him and such like is fulfilled The leaders of the people cause them to erre by their lies and their lightnesse but if J. N. hath not a word of it in that Book is it not blinde impudency therefore to say the people called Quakers deny it And further we answer This is he whom we beare testimony unto who fills all things he that came down from heaven even the Son of man which is in heaven and dwels in us as he did in the Saints in the Primitive dayes whom we now own and witnesse to be our King and Law-giver and are so far from condemning them that we give our testimony with them and leave it to the understanding unprejudiced Reader to judge whether T. C. by saying that Christ was not in the Saints as he did lately at Glastonbury before many witnesses be not found condemning the Saints in the Primitive dayes who said that Christ was in them as Paul and others And also the generation of the just now who are witnesses of his being in them and obedient to his commands and so what he is charging us upon true tryall he is found guilty himself Another of his Lies by him charged on us is That we disown the kingdome of Christ which is the great and blessed promise of the Gospel the faith and hope of Saints for proof hereof he saith If the very Christ be in them he is not in heaven and that Naylor in his Salutation to the seed of God contemptably saith you observe dayes and years persons and forms loe here and loe there and the time and manner of his Reign you are jangling abouts and what a one he shall be all which as T.C. saith declares that he accounts the Reign of Christ so much witnessed in Scripture c. to be but jangling and conceits Now mark the insufficiency absurdity and falsnesse of this pro●… as if E. B. because he saith the very Christ of God is in us the ●…ore he disowns his kingdome and denies his being in heave●… Might he not as well charge the same on Paul who saith Christ lives in me And Christ himselfe because he useth these words I in them c. in his prayer for the Saints John 17. And if the Saints faith hope be according to Christs prayer who is it that disowns denies the coming and kingdom of Christ according to their faith and hope either E. B. and the people called Quakers who witness Christs being in them according to his prayer promise or T.C. who denies Christs being in the Saints contrary to both He further alleadgeth that J. N. saith you observe dayes and years c. as before exprest We say as before may not T. C. as well charge Paul nay Christ himselfe for disowning his Kingdome and denying his coming whose words were to the same purpose We further answer that this is the King who reigns in righteousnesse and rules in judgement and for such who live in wickednesse have abominations reigning

own that we might gain Christ in whom all our sufficiency is both to will and to do And though tempted to sin and warring with the enemies of our soules yet are not overcome but are more then Conquerours through him that hath loved us We choosing his Crosse rather then our own liberty which Crosse we have found to be the great power of God to salvation Let him have the glory of all And after all this he saith that he hath briefly run through many things c. through redeeming of time which is precious and called for in other employments We answer how didst thou redeem time when thou inventedst thy Dialogue and so many Lies and Slanders therein against the Innocent What was it moved thee thus to reproach the Lords people who art passing through the Wildernesse towards the Land of Promise and neither eat of thy Bread nor meddle of thy Waters Was it any other ground then what moved Amaleck to fight against Israel Surely hadst thou known the preciousnesse of time and what it is to redeem it thou wouldst not have employed it thus to invent Slanders and Reproaches Yea such things as the Lord knows never came into our hearts but are detested by us And yet thou art found mispending more time to vindicate what thou hadst thus unjustly done Thou mightest well say it was called for to be spent in other employments and the more thou hast to account for For he that knows his Masters will and doth it not shall be beaten with many stripes And then thou sayest It is for the Lord what and yet called for to be spent in other employments what confusion is here But the work shews that it is not for the Lord for will a man lye for God Nay If some that preach in his name must depart as workers of iniquity much more they that speak lyes in his Name He further saith He hath faith given him to believe that God will speedily set a stop to those things and principles that are so dishonourable to him and ruining to souls Verily thy fruits declare what thy faith is no better then a vain hope which shall perish And woe to them which call evill good and good evill We know that the Lord hath wrought for the glory of his name in thus carrying on his truth against all ooposition and sets a stop to the rage of the wicked who had swallowed us up quicke had not the Lord been on our side Yea he puts a bridle in their jawes and a hook in their noses and turns them backward and snares them in the work of their owne hands but delivers those that trust in him praises to his name for ever And then at last he sets down severall particulars about Perfection which we have spoken to already in what goes before and therefore here need not answer but warn thee speedily to repent and fear before the living God who suddenly appears to render to every man a due reward according to his works whether they be good or evill For our God is a God of knowledg and by him are actions weighed Some Queries for Thomas Collier 1 Qu. WHether ever any Minister of the Gospel or one that was set for the defence thereof had at the same time abominations reigning in his soul and was drawing iniquity with cords of vanity 2 Query Whether that be not a false Teacher Deceiver or Lyar and not a true Minister of Christ who cry peace to the wicked even to such whose iniquities are apparently written in their fore-heads since the Lord saith there is no peace to the wicked 3 Qu. Whether the woe of the Lord be not against such who now pretend to wait for the counsell of the Lord that they may know it and yet are drawing iniquity with cords of vanity as it was in the dayes of Isaiah 4 Qu. Whether ever the mouth of a true Minister of Christ were stopt with a slavish fear 5 Qu. Whether he be not an hypocrite who reproves others for their sins while his owne abominations reign in his soul and is drawing iniquity with cords of vanity 6 Qu. Whether Christ words may not well be spoken to such a one viz. Thou hypocrite pull the beame out of thine own eye before thou go about to take a mote out of anothers 7 Qu. Whether they are true Ministers of ●hrist who daily complain and make addresses for maintenance 8 Qu. Whether such might not rather be called greedy dogs which can never have enough 9 Qu. Whether any unclean thing shall ever enter into the new Jerusalem 10 Qu. Whether they that dye in their fins shall not receive the wages thereof 11 Qu. Whether there be a time of cleansing from ●in after the dissolution of the body 12 Qu. Whether the tree doth not lye as it falls 13 Qu. Whether many shall not come at the last day and say Lord Lord in thy Name have we preached cast out Devils and done many wonderfull works To whom Christ will then say Depart ye workers of iniquity c 17 Que. Whether such whose Abominations reign are drawing iniquity with cords of vanity and slavish feare hath stopt their mouths be workers of Iniquity yea or nay 15 Qu. Whether such must not receive the same sentence that Christ pronounces against workers of Iniquity what ever their profession be 16 Query Whether God be not just to render vengeance against all such who in words professe him but in deeds deny him 17 Query Whether he that commits sinne be not of the Devill 18 Qu. Whether they stand in the warfare against sin and the Devill who are drawing iniquity with cords of vanity or whether they are not joyning with Sin and the Devill against Christ 19 Qu. Whether any whose Iniquities are apparently written in their fore-heads and are mockers of God are joyned to the Lord yea or nay 20 Qu. Whether they that are joyned to the Lord are not one Spirit 21 Qu Whether any truly know Christ their Saviour while their Abhominations reigne and are drawing iniquity with cords of vanity 22 Quer. Whether they that are without the sense of Gods Majesty in whom the world hath eaten out all the Divine sweetnesse of regenerating and sanctifying grace who are formall in holy duties and whose Iniquities are apparently written in their fore-heads are built up through that one everlasting Spirit a holy Tabernacle for the living God yea or nay 23 Qu. Whether such as have the forme of godlinesse and are without the power must not be turned from yea or nay 24 Qu. Whether such must not be denyed who are without both form and power 25 Query Whether any of the Ministers of Christ did ever plead for sin and against perfection but for perfection and against sin 26 Qu. Whether Jesus Christ be not the same to day as yesterday and for ever 27 Query Whether they are not Reprobates who do not know Christ within them 28 Qu. Whether ever a Minister of

Scripture be fulfilled in you even to reject Jesus the Light of the World and choose a Murtherer joyne with any rather then children of Light How can it be otherwise seeing many of you are just fencing your selves against the Truth and not therewith content but are likewise what in you lyeth making bars and fences for those that you judge are weaker lest they should own it and not onely refusing to enter the Kingdome your selves but shutting it up against others Your zeale for God being turned against Truth in a great measure and nothing you account so dangerous and so much cry out against Even for this have teares been shed for you in secret your piety is now turned into policy complying with the world lest you should suffer by them Consider in the cool of the day what 's the difference between you and the vvorld Doe you not speak when you will and pray when you vvill go vvhen you vvill and come vvhen you vvill as the vvorlds Teachers do Dare any of you say you speak as the Oracles of God or as you are moved of the Holy Ghost and as the Spirit gives you utterance Even that which your eyes have seen your eares have heard and your hands have handled of the word of life Doe you not rather steale the words of the true Prophets Christ and the Apostles being strangers to their Life and enemies to that Spirit they were guided by and so run in your owne wills not knowing another to gird you and carrie you whether you would not crying peace to the wicked as the worlds Teachers do But woe is to the wicked and to them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity even now pronounced from the same Spirit as formerly it was and this shall stand in heaven against you all that live in it pleads for it and cry peace to it let your profession be what it will And therefore we perswade and beseech you to be reconciled to God Wash you make you clean put away from you the evill of your doings Cease to do evill learn to do well c. And this know by your owne power nor in your own wills you can never do it but you must believe in obey follow be guided and led by him who is the Light of the world and leads contrary to the will of man in which all sin is committed and so leads to do the will of another and they onely are happy that knowes him borne in them the first taken away and the second established So this we say to you There is no other name given under heaven by which men can be saved but the name of Jesus he that saves his people from their sins and preached himselfe the Light of the World He that reproves in secret for that which none can lay to your charge not onely for wicked actions but for idle and unprofitable words and vaine thoughts and blessed are all they vvho knovv him their guide and leader King and Lavv-giver and are vvholly subject to him they shall reigne vvith him upon Mount Sion and shall sing that nevv song vvhich none can sing but the Redeemed from the Earth He that hath an ear to heare let him heare So the vvay to true peace is through the svvord the vvay to life through death the vvay to obtaine mercie is through judgement the vvay to reign is to suffer vvith him and this must all vvitnesse in the particular all must know the living slain and the dead raised by the mighty power of God and such as have part in the first Resurrection on such the second death hath no power And therefore we warn you all in love to your souls that ye wander not abroad salvation must be witnessed at home or all is vain We further say as living witnesses for the Lord we now stand who have obtained mercy after long travail and cruell bondage under the oppressor wandring from Mountain to Hill and groaning under the burthen of corruption as we are perswaded some of you do Yea we could even have laid down our earthly tabernacle to have been rid of it but in all professions that we were the enemie carried us captive for vvhich vve vvept in secret and oft bevvailed our conditions and breathed for deliverance but knevv not hovv to obtain it sinking under the burthen vvithout hope of relief in this vvofull sad and lamentable estate vvhere vve long continued and had untill this day had not the Lord in his eternall love revealed his Son in us vvhom vve vvitnesse is mighty to save and on whom only salvation is laid even the light of the world he that shevved us sin and made manifest our conditions and oft times had called upon us to turn from the evill of our ways but vve knevv him not and as soon as vve believed that this was he not looking for another but gave up to be guided by him that discovered our lost estates the vvar vve soon vvitnessed betvveen Light and Darknesse the Lamb and the Dragon in the particular even such dayes as vve had not knovvn since the foundation of the world And this vve found the same that made manifest sin gave victory over it vve standing single in it adding nothing to it nor joyning any thing of our ovvn vvith it but let the Lord vvork his ovvn vvork and so dominion vve vvitness over those sins that we so long had groaned under and now we know Jesus a Saviour from sin and a Redeemer from iniquity glory to his name for ever and ever in whose saving health we now-rejoyce even with joy unspeakable which none can take from us And verily the desire of our souls is that ye may come to partake of this joy with us and the way how we came to it have we truly laid down before you and no other end have we in declaring this but our earnest desire of your eternal happinesse being pressed in spirit to it by the Lord who bears record to the truth of our hearts herein Oh that you could receive our testimonie yea the testimonie of the Lord by us Oh! that that eye might be opened in you which the God of this world hath blinded That you might know in this your day the things that belong to your peace before they be hid from your eyes and the day of your visitation passe over your heads For verily your leaders cause you to erre by their lyes and lightnesse and have cryed peace unto you when the sword of the Lord pierces to the very soule Oh! return return to him who is the Light of the world who is made manifest within who is the living bread which came down from heaven whose flesh is meat indeed and whose blood is drinke indeed and no longer seek your food in desolate places and hew unto your selves broken Cisterns that will hold no water For the Son of God is come and hath given us an understanding that we may know him that is true and we are in him And if you walke in darknesse and say you have fellowship with him ye lye and do not the truth but if you walk in the light as he is in the light we have fellowship one with another and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth from all sinne And therefore no longer wander abroad for the Kingdome of God is within you And say not in your selves who shall ascend up into heaven to bring Christ down to us For the word is nigh unto you even in the heart and in the mouth he that can receive it let him And now are vve clear in the sight of God concerning you whether you heare or forbear and though Israel be not gathered yet a good savour shall we be unto the Lord both in them that are saved and in them that perish Oh! slight not the counsel of the Lord unto you by those who sometime drunk of the Cup of fornication with you and since have drunk of the Cup of tribulation yea of the Lords indignation but now drinke of the cup of consolation and salvation and are well knovvn unto many of you by the names of Streat the 21 day of the fourth moneth 1658. John Pitman Jesper Batt THE END