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A53499 An answer to the challenge of Mr. Henry Jennings (Protestant Arch-Deacon of Dromore) which evidently makes-out the present Church of Romes doctrine to have been maintain'd in the first five ages, & the adversarys principles to be only a heap of heresies lawfully condemn'd by the primitive Church. To which is annexed An answer to one Whealy. Set forth by James O Shiell reader of Divinity. O'Sheill, James. 1699 (1699) Wing O530A; ESTC R214539 82,791 345

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substance was chang'd St. Gregorie Nysen who liv'd the year 380. in his Oration term'd Cateehetica c. 370. sayes thus I do also now rightly believe the sanctifi'd bread to be chang'd into the body of Christ and these things he bestows transelementing the thīgs that are seen into it by the vertue of his blessings which words do plainly make-out that St. Gregorie positively believ'd the Transubstantiation otherwise he wou'd not have said these words St Ambrose who siv'd about the same time in his 4th book of sacraments c. 4th sayes thus perhaps you may say my bread is ordinary but the bread is bread before the words of consecration but when consecration comes it is the flesh of Christ a nother convincing Authority of St. Ambrose may be seē in my answer to the 5th point St Gaudentius who also liv'd in the 4th age in his 2. Treatis on Exod. sayes the following words the Cream and Lord of natures who brought forth the bread out of the earth and again of the bread because he can do it promis'd it made his proper body and who of the water made wine made of the wine his own blood S. Chrysostome who liv'd in the year 398. in his 83. hom on S. Matt. speaking of this mysterie sayes thus these are not the works of human power which the Lord perform'd in that supper the same also offers now the sacrifice he performs we enjoy the office of ministers truly t is he who sanctifies and cha●ges these things And in his Homily of the Eucharist in ●●●aenys he also sayes the following words do you see the bread do you see the wine do they go like other meat to the privy the Lord forbid you ought not to imagin so for evē as after wax is apply'd to the fire nothing of the substance remains even so consider here the mysteries the substance of the body to be consum'd that is to say that the breads substāce is annichilated when Christ's body inters under those accidents which formerly the bread had before it was annul●d St. Augustin in his ●8 ser de verbis Apostoli● sayes thus I told ye that the bread which is offer'd is call'd bread before the words of Christ but as soone as Christ's words are pronounc'd then t is not call'd bread but it is call'd the body And in the book of the Incarnatiō of Christ we read the following words t is not to be believ'd that the ●ubstance of the bread or wine remains but that the bread is cheang'd into Christ's body and the wine into his blood c St. Cyrill of Alexandria in his Epist to Calosyrius and Eusebius Emissenus Ser. de corpore Domini do affirm the same All which Authorityes do evidently make out the thing signifi'd by the word Transubstantiation that is to say the real change of the substance of bread and wine a● the intrance of Christ's flesh blood to have been alwayes believ'd and maintain'd by the holy Fathers and Doctors of the Primitive Church so that it plainly appears that this Doctrine of Transubstantiation was not broughtin by the Church of Rome either in the 6th 7th 8th or 9th age or by the Council of Latran in the year 1215 as some of the pretēnded reformers do falsly aleadge It is not worth my while to answer here the Adversary's 8th point for it is sufficiently answer'd by what I have produc'd in my answers to the three last points for t is manifest that all those who contradicted in the Primitive Church the aforsaid Doctrine that they were esteem'd and beliv'd by the holy Catholicke Churh to have been notorious heretickes as I will shew in the later end of this worke Chap. 8. Proving the use and veneration of Images in the Primitive Church If it be lawfull to worship other creatures t is also lawfull to worship Images but t is lawfull to worship other creatures therefore t is lawfull to worship Images the major is manifest for the sa●e honour which the scripture forbids to be given to the one forbids it to be given to the other as I will shew hereafter therefore if it be lawfull to worship other creatures t is also lawfull to worsh●p Images whose making and puting up in Churches is commanded by the holy scripture as evidently appears by the following texts Exodus c 25 v. 18. 19. 22 where we read that God commanded two C●erubins to be made of go●d which were to be set up on both sides of the Arke before which the people were to pray and promis'd that there he wou'd meet with Moses we read also Numb c. 21 v. 8 and 9 that the Lord commanded Moses to make a fiery serpent and to set it up on a pole and that it shu'd come to passe that if any one would be bitten by a serpent that he wou'd recover when he wou'd looke upon the serpent of brasse more examples may be seen in the 3 book of Kings c. 6. v. 35. c. 7. v. 25. 29. and 36. c. 10. v. 19. in the 2. book of Chronicles c 3. v. 10 and 14. where we read that Salomon caus'd at several times Images to be made but we can never find out that ever he was reprehended for so doing Now let us see is it lawfull to worship other creatures that thereby the minor may be prov'd Lot seeing the Angels bow●● himself with his face to wards the ground Gen. c. 19. v. 1. Ba●aam did the same seeing the Angel of the Lord Numb c 22 v. 31. and also Joshua as may be seen Joshua c. 5. v. 14. Saul seeing the soul of Samuel stoop'd with his face towards the groūd and ●bowed himself as may be seen in the first book of Kings c. 28 v. 14. and in the 3. book of Kings c 18 v 7. we read that Abadiah fell on his face and worshipp'd Elyah The sons of the Prophets seeing Elisha they came to meet him and bowed themselves to the ground before him as may be seen in the 4th book of Kings c. 2. v. 15. we also read in the 2. c. v. 46. of Daniel that the King Nebuchad-nezzar fell upon his face and worshipp'd Daniel and commanded that they shu'd offer an oblation and sweetodours unto him Chirist approv'd of the making and exalting of the brazen serpent and owens it to have been the type and figure of himself exalted on the crosse ●ohn c. 3 v 14. S. Iohn the Baptist worshipp'd the very latehet of our Saviours shooe the latchet of whose shooes saith he I am not worthy to unloose John c. 1. v. 27. for which fact St Augustin on that place concluds him to have been full of the holy Ghost the Patriarch Jacob ador'd the top of Jo●eph's rod a signe or Image of his regal power as we read in S Pauls Epist to the Hebrews c. 1 v 2● the Primitive Christians venerated the very shadow and garments of S Peter and Paul and receiv'd thereby speciall benefit as may be seen in
Godly honour Tho' the aforesaid argument might be a sufficient answer to this point yet I will produce the following Authorityes to confirm the same St Denis the Areeopagite who liv'd in the Apostles time in his book de Eccles. Hier. c. 3 makes mention of the Incencīg of the altar of the Priest washing his hands of ●●● elevation of the blessed Host ● the adoration thereof Origines wh● liv'd in the 3. Cētury in his 3. Ho● in Exod. sayes thus I design to ●●monish ye with the examples of ●●● own religion ye know who are acc●●●m'd to be present at the divi● mysteries when ye receive the Lor● body how with all caution ●● veneration ye take heed least ● smal particle of it should fall down le●● any thing of the consecrated gift sh●● slip out for ye belive your selves ●●● guilty and ye rightly believe if ● thing of it wou'd fall by your neglig●●ce St Ambrose who liv'd in th● 4th Century in his 3. book of th● Holy Ghost c. 12. expounding th● of the 98. Psal where we a● bid to worship the footstool of his fee● sayes thus therefore by the footstool the earth is understood and by the earth the flesh of Christ which also evē at this day we adore in mysteries and which the Apostles ador'd in the Lord Jesus S. Chrysostome who also liv'd in the 4 Century in his ● hom on S Pau'ls Epist to the Ephesians sayes thus we speake of the body and of him who differs nothing from it how many are made partakers of that body how many tastes of his blood remember that it is the body blood of him who refides above the heavens who is humbly ador'd by the Angels He also sayes the following words hom 24th on St. Pauls first Epist to the Corinthians the wisemen regarded thîs body la●ing ●n the ●ange● the i●pio●●●a●●arou● men having le●t th●i● 〈◊〉 t●ey home made along voy● when they a●riv'd wi●h gr●at ●● tremb●ing they wor●hipp d ● let us therefore the Citizens of he●● immitate the barbarous people do not see him in the m●nge● but on● a●t●● not a woman keepi●g him ●● the Priest holding him let us the●fore weaken our selves an● be gr●● afraid let us shew a great deal n● reve●ece than these barbarous people● for open the gates of heaven and l●● and then you will see that whi●● said to be true for that which i● t●● most precious and most to be ador'● a●l thinks I do ●h●w you the same ●● on earth even as in a Ki●gs pal●● that which is most magnificē● of thīgs not the ●alls no● 〈…〉 ●t the King● ●t that y●● 〈…〉 do n●t h●w yo● th● A●g●l● Ar●●ge●s o● he heaves b●t t●●ir mas●er ●● have perc●●v'd h●w ●ou 〈◊〉 on the ●●●h that which is most excellent ●est to be regarded of a●l things nei●her do ●ou only see hi● but a●so yo●●●●h him you ea● him after you ●at him you return home clean pu●ifie your soul prepare your mind against the receiving of these mysteries●●or if a King's son wi●h a neat pre●ious ●●own had been give● to you ●o ●e carri'd you wou'd slight all the thīgs ●● the world but now receiving not ●he son of a worldly King but the only ●egottn son of Go● c. St Augustin who liv'd in the begining of the 5th Century expounding the 9● Psal sayes that the earth is th● Lords footstool according to th● of Isaiah c 66 v. 1. saying thu● the heaven is my throne the ear● is my footstool and he inquires ho● is it lawfull to adore the earth with-out impiety and then h● sayes the following words being troubl'd in mind I do turn myself Christ because I do seeke him I find how the earth is ador'd with-out impiety the footstool of his feet is ador'd for he receiv'd earth from the earth because the flesh is of the earth he receiv'd flesh from the flesh of Mary because he walk'd here in that flesh gave us the same flesh to eate for our safety none eats of that flesh if he adores it not before t is found-out after what 〈…〉 ●●otstool of ●● Lord may 〈…〉 not only ●●t we doe not 〈…〉 it but ●● we si●n in not a ●ori●g it More ● S. Augustin's Author●●yes may ● seen to the same purpose in ●s 118. Epist c. 3. and in his 120 ●pist c. ●7 which I omit to produ●● least I shu'd be too trouble●●●e to the reader Chap. 7 Proving that Transubstātia●● was believ'd by those of the Primi●●ve Church I shall only here enlarge those ●●●ts of scripture produc'd in my ●nswer to the 5th point with the ●●llowing Authorityes of the ●●ly Fathers and Doctors of the ●rimitive Church Tertullian who liv'd in the begining of the 3. Cen●ury in his 4. book agai● M●●cian c. 4● sa●es 〈◊〉 ●● b●ead taken and distributed ●● his ●●sciples he ma●e h●s ow● body St. 〈◊〉 martyr and S I●eneus who bo●● liv'd before ●ertulliā do aff●● the same as the reader may see ●● their Authorityes produc'd ●● my answer to the 5. point S ●●prian who liv'd the year 25●● his sermon of the Lord's sup●●●ayes thus the ●read which ou● gave to his Disciples being chang● not in sh●pe but in natûre b● the ●●nipotency of the word was made ●le●● S Cyrill of Jerusalem who liv'd in the 4. Century speaking ●● Christ in his 4. Catech. sayes th●● followig words he did once in Ca●● of Galelee only by his will turn water ●nto wine which is near blood a●d ●hall he not be w●rthy to be believ'd ●o u● that he tu●n'd wine into blood ●●erefore let us receive the body and ●●ood of Christ with all assurance for ●nder the shape of bread the body is given to you and under the shape of ●ine the blood is given therefore let us not consider it as bare bread and bare wine for it is the body and blood of Christ according to the Lord 's own words for altho' your sense wou'd not represent this to you nevertheless let faith confirm you you ought not to judge these things by the taste therefo●e knowing this with all certainly holding the bread which is seen ●y us not to be bread altho' the taste perceives it to be bread but to be the body of Christ the wine which is see●●● altho' it may seem to the pall●● be wine notwithstandīg it is not ●● but the blood of Christ Let the ●●der be Pleas'd to take notice ●● plainly St Cyprian affirms by ●● former words that the substa●●● of the bread wine is dissol●● at the intrance of Christ's b●● and blood and also how St. Cy●● bids us not to judge of this my●●●rie according to the apprehensio● of our senses but to firmly believe the true and real presence of Christ's body and blood unde● the shape of bread and wine that is to say under the accidents which the bread and wine had before cheir