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A publick tryal of the Quakers in Barmudas [sic] upon the first day of May, 1678 by Samson Bond, late the preacher of the Gospel in Barmudas.
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Bond, Samson.
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man being almost spent said again the Scripture saith It is Christ in you which a little moved me and thereupon I demanded of him sc If the true Christ and only Saviour be in thee in what part of thy body is he residing that is to say whether in thy ly Legs Brains or Bowels he had his Answer ready sc This is an Ishmael and his Brother Blasphemer W. H. seconded him Yes quoth he He is an Ishmaelite to which being now without interruptions I make this return That I am content to be called Ishmael as it signifies Heard of God as I hope I am in bearing witness to the Grace of God and Gift by Grace which abounds to all believing Christians through the one Man Jesus Christ and withall let me tell you Quakers Though ye are not in Name yet in Nature Disposition and Practise ye are the true Ishmaels as it doth appear by the Spirit of Christ Gal. 4. 22. to the end wherein all such as stand under the Covenant of works as Quakers do are typified by Ishmael for in this History as spiritually applied by the holy Apostle we have these particulars noted 1. Sarah notes Jerusalem above 2. Isaac all the true seed of God by promise in Christ through Faith 3. Hagar the literal Covenant of God abused by all false Teachers 4. Ishmael All Hypocrites and Bond-Children hereby brought forth in the Church mocking and persecuting the Children of promise under the Covenant of Grace c. As its more particularly asserted in ver 29. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit even so it is now Here the Apostle reports to us a great Example of unholy scorn sc Ishmael persecuting Isaac Moses tells us the manner how and the weapon wherewith Ishmael did not lift up his hand against Isaac as Cain did against Abel but his tongue he mocked him Gen. 21. 9. reproachful mocking is one of Satans choice Engines to wound the blessed Gospel at the very heart even so it is now saith Paul there and we may now say even so it is now that is they that are born after the Fesh do persecute them that are born after the Spirit or of God Joh. 1. 13. who are Believers in the Name of Jesus of Nazareth ver 12. comp 45. It s but too well known how the Quakers who glory in their own Flesh Gal. 6. 13. and in that respect born after the Flesh do with most unholy scorn mock them that are born after the Spirit sc after the Spirit of Faith in the Lord Jesus of Nazareth reproachfully saying O you believe in a humane earthly Christ in an out-side Christ a Christ in Name Shew and appearance only no real Christ no real Saviour surely these kind of sayings must needs be bitter mockings sarcastical Jearings and most Blasphemous Scorning of the holy and just one born of Mary the Son of the Highest which in ver 29. above the Apostle calls Persecution for it plainly notes a contemptuous and malignant carriage against Jesus of Nazareth the Man approved of God among the People Act. 2. 22. in short the whole is this to wit Let any rational Saint judge whether the Earth doth or can bear greater persecutors of the Man Jesus Christ of Nazareth than these Scoffing Quaffing Quakers and consequently are the Ishmaels both in having and acting the very nature and disposition of Ishmael but I shall likewise pass this and return to the third Scripture which William Wilkinson repeated viz. 1 Cor. 6. 11. But ye are washed but ye are justified by the Spirit of God Answ I told him 1. That he had prophanely dismembred that Sacred Tâ—xt of Scripture as his Brother F. E. had done before him leaving out the Name of the Lord Jesus a Name too hard for them to bear 2. That I had already shewed the mind of the Apostle touching those words and that it would be a disingenious act to weary the judicious Hearers with needless repetitions but be continued clamourous querying Why they might not be washed and justified by the Spirit now as well as others heretofore I replied That the Spirit as such never justified any Saint from fin in the sight of God much less such a one as he was who never had the Spirit of God in him he forthwith required me to prove that to wit That he had not the Spirit of God in him which I proved by 3 Arguments 1. Arg. Was taken from 1 Joh. 5. 8. There are three thâ—t bear witness in Earth the Spirit and the Water and the Blood and these three agree in me But the Spirit that is in thee doth not agree with the water of Baptismâ—â— nor blood of the Super for thou hast renounced both the Sacraments therefore the Spirit of God is not in thee Note though I thus Argued yet it was not to exclude other implicated respects in this Text of Scripture To which he Replied saying That he had both Baptisme and the Lords Supper within him But I proved the contrary thus Baptisme and the Lords Supper are visible signes of the invisible efficacy of Christs one Crucified Body but the visible signes namely washing with water in or unto the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost and the Bread and Wine broken and given and poured forth are not within thee therefore the Sacraments of Baptisme and the Supper of the Lord are not within thee To this he made no Reply By the way let the Reader observe to wit That the Teaching Seducing Quakers do usually affirm the true Church Officers and Ordinances of Worship are in God and that the Deity is in them therefore all these are invisibly in them being as they prate immediately made by the Spirit still the Idol-light within whence they conclude that Baptisme and the Lords Supper are within them though their assertions herein be frequently and most plainly contradicted by themselves For they maintain and keep up visible Meetings Officers Light worship and Worshippers and thus by their constant visible practice they clearly confute themselves living in contradiction to their own fanciful Principles and being self confuted they are self-condemned How great is this darkness Again here hence it is That they acknowledge no other Baptisme then of the Holy Ghost and of Fire which makes many of them as it s supposed so hot two Wives calling it their internal warmth and spiritual refreshment nor no other Lords Supper than their daily Feasts of fat things which as they dare say feed them with heavenly joyes glories and unspeakable delights often attended with a dissembled kind of canting-hummings within a new kind of charm to seduce the itching ear and soft head with unscriptural novelties so much for their internal and invisible Sacraments I pass to the second Argument 2. Arg Was taken from Rom. 8. 16. The Spirit it self beareth witness with our Spirit that we are the Children of God But this holy
gave up the Ghost all these were truly and properly spoken of the true Christ who is the Light of the World Now what can be more absurd and â—alse then to affirm these things of the Light in every man that cometh into the World by natural Generation 3. It being an Enlightning which is communicated as in ver 9. to every man that comes into the World which comprehends both Elect and Reprobate But the true Christ is not in Reprobates 2 Cor 13. 5 Therefore the true Christ is not as in your sence in every man that comes into the World and consequently not in Teaching Seducing Quakers Text 2d 1 Tim 3. 16. Great is the mystery of godliness God was manifest in the flesh Hence he F. E. inferr'd that the Godhead only as manifest in the flesh is the true Christ and only Saviour and withal he effectually said that the Light in every man that comes into the World as it is manifest in every man iâ— the same Christ sc the Godhead and as in the body of Christs flesh so in the body of every mans flesh i. e. God manifest in the flesh sc flesh indefinitely And so by a consequence of his own Blaspheming a Quakers pretended Saviour within him is the true not the false Christ Answ Nothing can be more evident then that this Disputant would have had the Hearers to believe that the Godhead as distinct from Christs being a man is the true Christ and only Saviour Surely this is new Divinity which is diffeâ—ing and quiâ—e another Gospel then that of the Apostles as in Mat. 16. 16. Thou not the Godhead aloâ—e in thee But thou the son of Man ver 13. art the Son of the living God Again after Christs Ascention and Glorification in Heaven above the Apostles confess him in hese words Act. 2. 36. Let al the house of Israel know assaredly that God hath made that same Iesus not the Godhead only manifest in Jesus but that same Iesus whom 〈◊〉 crucified both Lord and Christ consider I pray did the Iews ever crucifie your feigned Godhead-light within I could heartily wish that all ye would feelingly lay to heart what our blessed Lord saith in this case Luk. 12. 8 9. Whosoever shall confess me not the Godhead only in me but me before Men him shall the Son of Man also confess before the Angels of God But he that denieth me the Son of Man shall be denied before the Angels of God Thus the Holy Apostles confessed before men the Son of man Iesus of Nazareth to be the true Christ and their only Saviour and in the Faith thereof they both lived and died F. E. Let me ask thee this question sc If the Godhead of the Son considered as distinct from his being a Man be the true Christ and Saviour how or to whom was he manifested its impossible to imagine that the Godhead which is invisible and incomprehensible can be manifested to the external senses of men But the true Christ and our only Saviour was thus Manifested as it is witnessed by Christs faithful Apostles sc in 1 Ioh. chap. 1. ver 1. 2 3. there speaking of the Lord Jesus Christ personally God man they declare That which was from the beginning which we have heard which we have seen which we have looked upon and our hands have handled of the word of life Note here that the blessed Apostles testifie that they had heard and seen Jesus Christ the true and only Saviour looking upon him and handled him by being in his Company But as for your Idol light-Christ it was never visible but ever invisible for ye say it is within only so that call it what ye will you nor any man else can say what it is except a Whimsey Moreover lâ—t it be considered how these words God was manifested in the flesh are explained by the Lord Christ himself Joh. 2. 11 This beginning of Miracles did Iesus in Cana of Galilee and manifested forth his glory that is his Godhead to Faith By this Miracle of turning water into wine the glory of the Godhead was manifested in the hoâ—y of his Flesh that is to say the Lord Christ did by that and other Miracles which he wrought in the sight of the Beholders make it manifest that he was true God and true man in one person which is so great a Mystery that neither Saints nor Angels are able to comprehend it this is indeed the genuine sense of that Scripture sc Great is the Mystery God was manifest in the flesh And to force it to speak otherwise is a most wretched and sinful wresting of the Text but the Disputant being as bold as blind added as aforesaid viz. That to Preach any other Gospel is to be accursed meaning to preach otherwise then that the Godhead only in the flesh all mankind flâ—sh to be the true Christ and only Saviour is to be accursed these words were being his third Text of Scripture repeated by him shall now be considered whether wrested or no. Tent 3d. Gal. 1. 8 9. If any Man Preach any other Gospel unto you then that which we have Preached unto you and ye have received let him be accursed Ans I pray thee Frances what was the Name of that Apostle who preached the Godhead as distinct from Christs Manhood to be the true Christ and only Saviour oh thou poor filly man was there ever or will there ever be remission of sins Preached by the Spirit but by and through the one Man Jesus Christ the Apostle Paul Heb. 10. 29. saith in effect to Preach otherwise is to despite the Spirit of Grace even the Doctrine of the Spirit Rom. 5. 15. Much more the Grace of God and the gift by Grace which is by one Man Jesus Christ hath abounded unto many I shall let this pass a little and proceed to a consideration of the Text it self And for our so doing this Question doth necessarily arise Quest What was the Gospel that Paul Preached Answ He Preached the Faith i. e. the Gospel of Faith which once he destroyed and persecuted Gal. 1. 23. Now the Faith which Paul once persecuted was the Faith of believing in Jesus of Nazareth the man approved of God among the people Act. 2. 22. to be the true Christ and our only Saviour then by good consequence the Gospel which the Apostle Preached was to believe in the Name Jesus Christ of Nazareth to be the true Christ our only Saviour and Justifier in the sight of God without the works of Law in or by us To clear this Answer yet a little further let Pauls own Confession be observed Act. 22. 4. And I Persecuted this way namely of believing in Jesus of Nazareth to be the true Christ and only Saviour unto the Death binding anâ—d delivering into the Prisons both Men and Women ver 7. And I heard a voice saying unto me Saul Saul why persecutest thou me ver 8. And I answered who art thou Lord