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A84133	The Anabaptists ground-work for reformation: or, New planting of churches, that no man, woman, nor child, may be baptized, but such as have justifying faith, and doe make profession thereof, before, to the baptizer, found false, with all things depending thereon. As being contrary to the Scriptures, and to the examples of Christ and his Apostles, ... Proved by severall arguments. Whereunto one T.L. a principall baptizer, (and apostle in their account) hath given his answers. Unto which answers, replies are also made by I.E. and some arguments annexed, proving, that the children of all such beleevers as were baptized, and so received into the Church, might be baptized, and received also. With a brief declaration what the true reformation is, and shal be, farre above these Anabaptists, and all such carnall builders conceits. And who the two witnesses of God are, by whom chiefly it is to be performed. Imprimatut [sic]. Iames Cranford,	Etherington, John, fl. 1641-1645.; Lamb, Thomas, d. 1686.	1644 (1644)	Wing E3381; Thomason E50_2; ESTC R23515	28,610	37

action they perform concerning the same For if it be a matter of so great consequence as without which there can bee no true reformation from the Antichristian Church to become a true Church of Christ as you perswade the people Then there is as great a necessity of a rule by word or example for the same as there is for any thing Therfore consider hereof and see what answer ye can give Christ gave a rule unto his Disciples for prayer and commanded saying When ye pray say Our Father which art in heaven c. I ask the reason why you doe not when you pray perform it according to the words seeing they are so plainly written down and yet charge the other so as ye do upon the people without either word or example Again Christ performed a work in washing his Disciples feet and commanded them that they should so wash one anothers feet as he had given them example What is the reason ye take not this work in hand to practise it seeing the commandement and every circumstance and action that Christ performed is so plainly written down Joh. 13.4 5 6 and so to verse 17. Is it because it makes not so wel for your planting new Churches as the other by your rejecting the outward baptisme little children had received and your baptizing onely men and women of years who must first professe that faith ye speak of doth Or is it because ye are utterly ignorant what the work truly is and therefore leave it quite lest ye should not rightly follow Christ therein but rather the Pope and his Church who have taken it up in a corrupt and superstitious way Then by the same reason yee might as well have left the other also and not have medled with it For let me ask you Doe you know what true circumcision is and so what true baptisme is If ye think ye do then see if ye can declare the true meaning of th●se Scriptures Mat. 28.19 Mark 16.15 16. 1 Pet. 3.21 Col. 2.11 12. Gal. 3.27 Rom. 2.29 Acts 2.38 Acts 19.5 and tell us if there be not as great a necessity of the circumcision and baptisme in these places spoken of as there is of the new birth John 3.3.5 and that whosoever is so circumcised or baptized hath put on Christ is regenerate and shall be saved and that it is not the cutting off the foreskin nor the doing away the filth of the flesh with outward washing or dipping the body in water as they of Rome concluded from those Scriptures in their Councell at Trent making the same washing or dipping of necessity to salvation But that it is the circumcision of the heart in the spirit the circumcision made without hands in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ the baptisme wherein they are buried with Christ and also are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God who hath raised him from the dead as Paul saith Col. 2.11 12. Even the answer of a good conscience by the resurrection of Jesus Christ as Peter saith 1. Pet. 3.21 And then the places being so understood it is clearly true That whosoever beleeveth and is baptized shal be saved as Christ and Peter and Paul have declared which cannot be so concluded upon outward washing or dipping These and all other such like gatherers of people together builders and planters which come so neere their strain in framing and setling Church●s to themselves in their independent way under the pretence of casting off all the abominations of Antichrist and practising according to the state of the Churches of the Apostles times let them and all other who in other kinds seem to endevour a reformation take heed and feare lest while they promise and assume great things to themselves they misse the very thing and goe clean beside the way of the true reformation which God will have to be in this last age For whosoever hath not in his heart the first principles of true repentance and that faith in Christ which justifieth that repentant broken-hearted sinner from his sins and the Comforter the Spirit of truth which leadeth into all truth cannot understand those great mysteri●s of God which he hath foretold in Scripture shall now in this last age be fulfilled And let no man take it in scorn therfore that I thus speak unto him it is mine owne case I must also take heed and feare And let us know howsoever though we all should faile in our understandings and go awry from the intent of the Scriptures in these great matters yet neverthelesse the work of Reformation shall goe on and every thing that the Scriptures have foretold shall come to passe Neither is the work of Reformation now to begin Christ foretelling of the abomination of desolation and the great tribulation of Antichrist that should come into the world saith And except those dayes should be shortned there should no flesh be saved but for the elect sake they shall be shortned Matth. 24.22 This Scripture is and hath been already in the fulfilling at least these hundred yeares past The Lord with the spirit of his mouth hath been consuming that man of sin all this while according as the Apostle Paul foretold 2 Thess 2.8 The two witnesses of God whom that Beast which was to come out of the deep should kill when they had finished their testimony that is when the whole counsell of God which he would have manifested to the world for the convincing of the ungodly and saving his elect should be by his holy Apostles and Evangelists testified and written down and they translated to their place of rest leaving the witnesses the two Testaments of God perfected and prophesying in their life and strength Then the Beast being risen up and placed in the Dragons Throne makes warre against them overcomes them and kils them Which killing was performed partly by his putting out and taking away the true intent and meaning of their word and testimony which is their light and life and giving false and lying interpretations of the same to the people and suppressing those that testified and walked in the light and truth of them And partly by keeping the letter of their word from the people that so their testimony might not be read understood and laid up in their hearts where they ought to be buried These two witnesses who have lien thus slain so long in the streets of that spirituall Sodom unburied are in their resurrection the spirit of life from God is entred into them and they are standing on their feet and walking again as was foretold Rev. 11. And so he whose name is called The Word of God who hath on his head many crownes and in his mouth a sharp sword he is come forth on his white horse and his heavenly armies following him on white horses clothed in white and fine clean linnen who are the called of God his chosen and faithfull

they and so for that cause rebuked those that forbad them to bee brought Then did he also esteeme them meet for outward baptisme which is the lesser and would no doubt have rebuked also such as should have forbidden or denied them it But the first is all true as it is written Mark 10.13 14. Therefore the second is true also An Objection If any shall object and say There is no plain word requiring little children to be baptized as there was to be circumcised nor any example in all the New Testament that little Children by name as Men and Women by name were baptized Answer To which I answer first for a word requiring it there needs none that commandement which required circumcision requireth this this being to the same purpose signifying as well as that the circumcision or baptisme of the heart for both are one And so the Apostle Paul by another commandement in the Law Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the Ox that treadeth out the corn proveth that those Messengers and Ministers of God that tread out or preach unto us the word of the Gospel ought to be provided for and supplied with sufficient food and other necessary things though it should extend to a tenth part of all that a man hath as it was in the Law as Paul also saith Doth not he that is taught in the word make him that hath taught him partaker of all his goods Christ gave no new commandement for this the former serveth whereby the Apostle proveth it So the commandement for circumcision serveth also to prove baptisme if there were no other proofe Again if little children may not be baptized because there is no plain word requiring it nor example mentioned that by name they were Then neither may women partake of the Lords Supper because there is not a word requiring it nor an example plainly set down that women by name did Now who dares be so bold therefore to conclude they may not If they say it is to be proved by necessary consequence which I grant and say the same for the baptizing little children and have so proved it And the baptizing of Lydia and her houshold and the Keeper of the prison and all his house Act. 16.15 32 33. if probabilities may serve to prove things which is T. L. his rule Then it is very probable that little children were baptized for in all probabilities there were children or one child at least in one of these housholds And besides it is as probable that if little children were not to bee baptized the Apostle Paul or the Evangelist Luke at least mentioning them by the names of whole houshold all his house would then have said Except little children And considering also that the name Houshold House Family doth and did then especially properly intend and imply children as the house of Jacob the house of David I and my House saith Josua will serve the Lord where by their house is meant their children and off-spring And a man may be said as the Keeper of the Prison was to beleeve with all his house though a little child were in it because it is understood that a little child cannot beleeve and needs not therefore to be excepted in respect of beleeving and yet be baptized And seldome is there a houshold or family that hath not some children in it or a child at least so that here is great probabilitie that children were baptized or at least might be seeing they were no where excepted And the promise which God made unto the faithfull Fathers of old as touching their children of shewing mercie unto them of calling a seed in them standeth as fast now to the faithfull and their children as it did then as the Lord hath spoken saying For I the Lord thy God am a jealous God visiting the iniquities of the fathers upon the children unto the third fourth generation of them that hate me And shewing mercy unto thousands in them that love me and keep my commandements Exod. 20. This promise of shewing mercie unto thousands in them that love God c. having no limitation in respect of time or nation stands sure at all times unto the faithfull and their children of all nations And therefore it was that the Apostle Paul said The unbeleeving wife is sanctified by the beleeving husband c. else were your children unclean but now they are holy he having respect unto the promise which God made to the children of the faithfull of shewing mercie of calling a seed in them c. and writes it down to the end that all the faithfull fathers and mothers of children should understand the same and so account of their children expecting and praying for them that God would so have mercie on them and call them and know also that they have the same right unto all the outward priviledges of the Church of God as the children of the faithfull had before The sixth Argument If little children both male and female were admitted as their right into the outward state of the Church in the time of the Law they being the children of the circumcised Then they may now as their right be admitted into the outward state of the Church in the time of the Gospel they being the children of the baptized But it was so then in the time of the Law Therefore it is to be so now in the time of the Gospel The seventh Argument If Christ did never take away any of the former priviledges which the little children of the faithfull had in the time of the Law Nor did ever himselfe nor any of his Apostles forbid little children to be baptized and so admitted into the outward state of the Church whereinto they were rightly admitted formerly Then no man may presume to doe it But Christ did never take away any of the former priviledges of the little children of the faithfull neither did he himselfe nor any of his Apostles ever forbid little children to be baptized and so admitted into the outward state of the Church now in this time of the Gospel Therefore no man may dare to doe it Whosoever shall presume to doe this thing seeing that neither Christ nor any of his Apostles ever did it sheweth himselfe to be a very bold presumptuous spirit taking upon him above Christ and all his Apostles and sinneth also greatly having not faith in the action But T. L. and all other such like Anabaptist Church-builders have done and doe so Therfore they shew themselves to be of very bold presumptuous spirits presuming above Christ and all his Apostles and sin greatly also not doing it of faith I ask T. L. and the rest of those Baptists or Dippers that will not be called Anabaptists though they baptize some that have been twice baptized before what rule they have by word or example in Scripture for their going men and women together into the water and for their manner of dipping and every circumstance and