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A40787 The snake in the grass further discovered, or, The Quakers no Christians proving out of their own writings, that they deny, I. The Scriptures to be the Word of God, II. Baptism, and the Lord's Supper, III. The manhood of Christ, &c. : with an account of their canons, constitutions, ecclesiastical order and discipline. Faldo, John, 1633-1690. 1698 (1698) Wing F305; ESTC R40574 226,252 360

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baptize therefore it was an Ordinance and that he baptized so few in that Country it was rather Providential than designed by Paul for he being so famous an Instrument of converting the Gentiles they began to cry him up as if he had not been Christs Minister but rather his Competitor and therefore he thanks God he baptized no more lest they should have said he baptized in his own name But though he did not baptize there might be enough beside for that work and we read not of one that omitted it when they understood of the Ordinance and had any to administer it to them Object It was to confer the Holy Ghost § 6 That was but one consequence but not what Baptism signified Beside the giving the Holy Ghost was of a miraculous nature for the Confirmation of the Disciples in the newness of the Christian Religion and conviction of others and the friends of Cornelius had the Holy Ghost before Baptism Object None were called to baptize but those that § 7 were sent to preach to all Nations Answ Ananias baptized Paul yet was not so sent The ends of Baptism which was a sign and seal of what interest they had in Christ and of Regeneration and the righteousness of Faith remain and therefore that remains to be dispensed by the ordinary and mediate Officers of the Church who are Stewards of the Mysteries of God of which this is one It being also a Cognizance of Christianity there is the same reason for it and it is in vain to talk of Ordinances abolished without some proof when and why they are so Naylor saith Paul preached the Love to lost p. 41. Baptism of the Spirit in its stead Let that be proved and something is said But John Higgins saith That Water-Baptism was Warning c. p. 5. but the administration of John is known and confessed I say no more to him but I perceive he is but little acquainted with Confessions I must bring in the sentence of the great Patriarch Geat mystery of great Whore p. 65. §. 8. George Fox to decide all for after his words 't is not fit any of his inferiours should speak again Where was Matthew or Mark or Luke or John baptized and many more which the Apostle Paul thanked God he had not baptized Baptizing is making Disciples to the Lord Jesus and baptizing them into his Name that is his Power but he Paul told of the Spirits Baptism and brought the Saints off from the things that are seen and Water is seen and its Baptism Strange arguments as if the Command and abundant instances of its practice had no force unless we have an account where every Believer was baptized and because Paul did not baptize all therefore they were not baptized at all But for Baptism being a making Disciples if it be understood of Water-Baptism it will be no small friend to Infant-Baptism if of the Baptism of the Spirit I suppose George Fox will eat his words again and acknowledge that the Apostles had not power to bestow the Spirit of God on persons and make them new Creatures that was the mistake of Simon Magus and now of George Fox But the last argument is such an one as never offered § 9 it self to such a service till the Quakers light which they say is Almighty had the management of it and so may make an effectual instrument of any thing Paul brought the Saints off from the things that are seen and Water is seen and its Baptism He 2 Cor. 4. 18. that shall look into the Text to which his words refer will admire his sharp-piercing Genius or his non-such ignorance that could find such a meaning of that Text or tell the world it was there But if all that is seen must be cast away and rejected I counsel the Quakers not to be such eager pursuers of the world and that I dare ground upon the Text But above all to reject their proud dreaming intolerable notions the ignorance and delusion of which is so gross that it is not only seen but may be felt also But for all this the Quakers will affirm they own Baptism and believe that George Fox is sent of God because he speaks of the Scripture right as they are The Quakers disown the Ordinance of the Lords Supper SECT VII to be now a Gospel-Ordinance or any Ordinance of God at all As of Baptism so of the Lords Supper they will say they own it at least many of them but they call quite another thing by that name which is the way they have to delude people in all other matters of the 1 Cor. 11. 23. Christian Religion If what the Apostle Paul saith he received of the Lord 1 Cor. 11. 23. do express the true Lords Supper the Quakers deny it Feeding upon the husk and shadow which is carnal Parnel Shield of the truth p. 13. For the bread which the World all that are not Quakers breaks is natural and carnal so also the Cup which they drink and here is no communion but natural outward and carnal They Bread and Wine in the Lords Supper are Smith prim p. 39. the Popes invention The Priest gives it to the people and tells them it is the Bloud of Christ which is shed for them when it is Wine and not Bloud I will not trouble thee with so unnecessary a thing as a reply to these silly Cavils and plain contradictions to the Scripture The main Objection the Quakers have against this § 2 Ordinance beside that against all forms and all things that are seen is That Christ is c●me and his Disciples were to do it in remembrance of him till he was come but Christ is come in the Spirit to them and therefore this Precept doth not bind them But who would think the Spirit or Christ in the Spirit was not come either in shedding it abroad miraculously as in the 2 Acts or as a Sanctifier in the hearts of his people when the Disciples and whole Church at Jerusalem were so frequent in this Ordinance and when the Apostle Paul tells the Corinthians The 1 Cor. 1● 16. Bread which we break c. But that none must be ingaged by this Ordinance but those to whom Christ was not come by a Spirit of Sanctification is exceeding gross For whereas the Ordinance is for the Saints this renders it to be peculiar to those in a state of sin and unconverted to Christ and they are not ashamed to own it to be so Which was the thing Christ in tender love to his Disciples Naylor love to the lost p. 58. at his departure warned them on knowing that their nature would draw to the Earth-ward not yet being changed nor having Christ born in them to keep them and for all this Warning and leaving this as a Sign c. If Christ born in the soul be not till the light within be obeyed as Christ the Son of the living God we