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A27231	The principles of the Quakers further shewn to be blasphemous and seditious in a reply to Geo. Whitehead's answer to the Brief discovery, stiled Truth and innocency vindicated / by Edward Beckham ..., Henry Meriton ..., Lancaster Topcliffe ...	Beckham, Edward, 1637 or 8-1714.; Topcliffe, Lancaster, 1646 or 7-1720.; Meriton, Henry, d. 1707.	1700 (1700)	Wing B1653; ESTC R34193	145,045	110

that were so admitted at first 4. That all this was done by Christ's Command and so was his Institution 1. That 't was Water-Baptism spoken of in the 3 d and 4 th of John that it was an outward Baptism and not a Baptism of the Holy Ghost is clear because the Pharisees and John's Disciples too took notice of it so that it could not be a thing inward and secret but somewhat outward and obvious to mens observation nay that it was not only outward but by Water too is as apparent because we see it in those Texts of St. John compared with John's Baptism the Pharisees as well as John's Disciples are here offended that Jesus made and baptized more Disciples than John whose Baptism was undeniably such The words in John the 4 th without an Ellipsis are read thus Christ baptized more Disciples than John baptized and what reason can we have for interpreting baptizing in the last place in a different sense from baptizing in the former especially since the exception taken John the 4 th was by the Pharisees who neither cared for nor knew of any other Baptism than that of Water It had been an odd comparison for a Pharisee Jesus baptized more with the Holy Ghost than John did with Water who had never heard of that spiritual Baptism and had they heard of it the Pharisees could never have had that honour for our Saviour as to think him so Divine a Person as to be able to baptize with the Holy Ghost whom they also so maliciously reproach'd and persecuted Further it is said J●sus himself baptized not can it be said that Jesus himself baptized not with the Holy Ghost 't was that chiefly wherein his Commission to baptize did excel the Baptist's that he should baptize with the Holy Ghost who indeed had only power to do it so that it must be meant with Water 2. That hereby he made Disciples to himself that is entred them into the Society of Christians 't is evident he did not disciple them for John or enter them into the Society of his followers for John's Disciples would not have been so much offended then for such multitudes Christ had brought into their Master's School John 3. 25 26. they were envious and look'd upon it as a competition between their Master and another new one set up amongst them Rehold say they to John Christ baptizeth and all Men come to him ver 30. He quiets their discontents by saying He must increase while I must decrease it had been an odd way of John's being diminished to have such multitudes of Disciples brought into his School by Christ Again 't is evident he did not by his Baptism d●sciple them to John because John's Disciples and Jesus's were under a different Government Mat. 9. 14. and the Disciples of John were offended at it that they should be tied to so severe Rules of Mortification as frequent Fastings by their Master while the Disciples of Christ injoyed a greater liberty thy Disciples fast not Again 't is evident he did not by Baptism disciple them for John for this would have lessened Christ and made John the greater of the two and Christ would have been but John's Minister and Chaplain to bring him in Profelices and John must have increased and Christ must have decreased thereby Again the Disciples of John that turned Christians were sain to be baptized again Acts 19. to ver 7. Ver. 3. they had been baptized with John's Baptism ver 5. they were baptized again in the Name of the Lord Jesus so then Christ's Baptism could not be John's Again 't is evident John's Disciples and Jesus's were not the same John 1. 35 37. for two of John's Disciples left him and followed Jesus they being then different Societies there must be a different admission to them Again this Baptism as all other Baptisms were was used as an initiating sign into a distinct Society under another Master the Jews that were baptized unto Moses were Moses's Disciples John 9. 28. and those whom John baptized were the Disciples of John and why should not they whom Jesus baptized be the Disciples of Jesus 'T is therefore very idle for the Quakers to say this Baptism of Christ was the same with John's and so was temporary as his was they might as well have said it was the Baptism of Moses Thus have we proved the second That Christ made and baptized Disciples to himself and not to John 3. That they were only Jewish Converts that were admitted to Christ's Baptism at the first for as yet Christ had not extended his care any further than the Jewish Church till after his Resurrection only to the lost Sheep of the House of Israel and of these he baptized and made Disciples as M●ses and John had done before 4. The last thing we are to prove is That the Biptism of Christ mentioned in those Texts was not a bare practice of Christ in compliance with either Jews or John's Baptism but an Institution and a Command of Christ Our reason is because it is said John 4. 1 2. Jesus baptized more Disciples than John th● Jesus baptized not but his Disciples And it cannot be understood how Jesus did what his Disciples did unless they they did it by Christ's Order or Command if they had run on headlong without an Order from Christ it could not have been said that Christ baptized but the Disciples had baptized upon their own heads 'T is not said Christ baptized and no more for then it might have been look'd upon only as the practice of Christ which is not per se obligatory without a Precept but 't is said Christ baptized howbeit no● Christ but his Disciples to let us know there was not only bare Practice but his special Order and Command to his Disciples without which they would not have done it nay Christ would not have suffered them neither could it have been said that Christ baptized if they had baptized without his Order but it is ordinary to attribute that to the Prince himself that is done by another according to his Command and Order and therefore Christ not doing it himself if he did it all as the Scripture says he must do it by commanding others to do it 2 ly The next Scripture is Matth. 28. 19. Go teach and baptize c. We shall prove that this was the same Water-Baptism that Christ had instituted John 4. He only here renews the Command whereby he doubles the Obligation to and inlarges the Commission of the Disciples now to go and disciple all both Jew and Gentile all Nation●● and our reason why it must be the same is because we have a word in Mat. 28. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that signifies the very same that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 does in the 4 th of John to make Disciples and the same word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 used there too neither is there any reason why Christ should set up a different Baptism for one

and the same end to make Disciples from what he had appointed before to make Disciples by had he intended so he would certainly have given some caution being about to institute a Baptism of another kind lest we should mistake this new and more glorious Baptism of the Spirit to be no more than that other elementary one he had commanded before and they had been used to to that very hour He repeats the Command again because the first Commission would not serve his purpose seeing he was to ampliate and inlarge the Terms having just now laid down his Life for all the Nations of the World he puts a Clause into their Commission now to instruct all Nations in the Rudiments of his new Religion and then baptize them that they may be the more capable of the benefit of his Sufferings 3 ly The next Text proving Water-Baptism to be instituted of Christ is Act. 10. 47. Can any one forbid Water that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Ghost as well as we Here are several Arguments to prove Water-Baptism was an Institution of Christ 1. The Holy Ghost was received before as preparatory to this Baptism so that the Baptism in the Text could not be the Baptism of the Holy Ghost therefore of Water 2. Can any one forbid it If any of these Gentlemen had been present would he not have started up immediately Can any one forbid Good Sir tell us who ever commanded us when or where were we bidden to dabble the Disciples with a little Popi●h Holy-Water you an Apostle of Christ and peremptorily inforce things upon the Disciples that are not now in force as our dear Brother W. Pen hath testified to offer up such a carnal Cainitical Sacrifice to God and tell People 't is an Ordinance of Christ behold we stand up here in the Power and the Spirit of the Lord God to witness against thee And we know not what St. Peter could better have replied to them than St. Paul once said to the Corinthians What I have received of the Lord I have delivered unto you and it being a Command of our Lord and Master you are impudent Servants to forbid it if the practice had been nothing but an exercise of Liberty and pure Condescension as W. Pen P. 127. l. 20. says in his Reply to the Answer to his Key if it had not been settled by Authority 3. St. Peter issues out an Authoritative Command that they should be baptized v. 28. he commanded them to be baptized The imposing such a Command upon the Disciples would have been an usurpation upon their Christian Liberty as the practice of it would have been superstitious enough if he had not had Divine Authority for his Warrant 4. He commands them to be baptized not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as in Matth. 28. 19. and Acts 19. 5. but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is by the Authority of Jesus and the Holy Ghost by varying the Expression here from that in those Texts seems purposely to countenance this Interpretation to command a thing to be done in the Name of a Person was ever thought to be by his Authority 1 Cor. 5. 4 5. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I have judged in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ when you are gathered together and my Spirit with the Power of our Lord Jesus Christ to deliver c. In the Name and in the Power and Authority are here all one 4 ly Another Text is Acts 22. 16. Ananias said to Paul Arise why tarriest thou and be baptized for c. Anani●s leaves it not here to Paul as a matter of Liberty or Condescension to the Jews here 's a peremptory Command as in the foregoing Citation Arise and be baptized and that quickly too why tarriest thou And this must be Water-Baptism for he must arise and put himself into a posture to go to some place of conveniency as a Brook or River to be baptized in and not tarry in the least he should not need to have got up and travelled in such haste for the Holy Ghost who is not limited to any place or time Again this was a Baptism he had in his own Power as that was in the Power of the Disciples in the former Citation or else they would not have been commanded to have been baptized it had been both a folly and injustice to command them what they had no power to do now the Baptism of the Holy Ghost was not in their Power they could not give themselves that Baptism nor St. Peter nor Ananias neither and if it had been the Baptism of the Holy Ghost that was spoken of in this Text it had been a more proper method for St. Peter Ananias St. Paul and the Disciples to have fallen upon their knees to God and have prayed that he would bestow that heavenly Gift upon them rather than bid them be baptized and take it themselves as Peter and John had done Acts 8. 15 16. they prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Ghost 5 ly Another Text is John 3. 3 5. Except a Man be born again of Water and the Holy Ghost c. Whatever be the sense of being born again we are sure that Water is Water and not the same in this place with the Spirit of God if it were so the words would have this ridiculous sense Except a Man be born again of the Spirit and the Spirit further if they were the same thing a Copulative were needless which ever uses to join two different things together and not the same thing to it self and if it be Water-Baptism it must be of Christ besides there would never have been affixt such a Reward to it if it had not been a Duty 2. We have a great many Scripture-Instances for the Practice of Water-Baptism besides those before named sure they will not say but that the Apostles baptized as Christ commanded them in J●h 4. and Ma●ih 28. 1. The first Scripture is 1 Cor. 1. 14. Crispus and Gaiu● were baptized with Water for St. Paul would not have thanked God he baptized so few of them with the Holy Ghost and those many other Corinthians Acts 18. 8. can't be supposed to have been baptized any otherwise than those their Fellow Citizens 2. The second Scripture is Act. 19. 3 5. Unto what were ye baptized He does not ask whether they were baptized with Water he did not doubt of that no● by what but unto what They answer Unto John's Baptism As soon as they were better instructed they were baptized agen into another and better Service into the Name of the Lord Jesus by such Water as they had been baptized with before For he sc●upled not the Water they had been baptized with but only asks into what Discipline or Society John's or Christ's 3. The third Text is Acts 8. 38. the Eunuch was baptized with Water for Philip and the Eunuch went both down into the Water In the same

Chapter v. 1● Simon himself believ'd viz. seemed to do so and he was baptized too they will not say sure such a Wizard as he was baptized with the Holy Ghost In ver 1● 16. he prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Ghost for as yet he was fallen upon none of them only they were ba●t●●ed into the Name of the Lord Jesus We think we shall not need to prove that Water Baptism hath been the Practice of the whole Christian World to this day 't is sufficient we have shewn several Commands out of Scripture for Water-Baptism and also several Instances wherein it hath been practised in the Apostles times but not one single Instance can we give in the Scripture where it s said Go and baptize or be baptized with the Holy Ghost not one Text where the Baptism practised in Scripture is called the Baptism of the Holy Ghost It would have been a very gracious Condescension to our Weakness if by the Baptism of Water so often mentioned in Holy Scripture there had been nothing meant but the Baptism of the Holy Ghost to have delivered it to us in more plain and express Terms and called it in some place or other the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and told us 't was not Water-Baptism was commanded or practised since we poor ignorant Creatures are so apt to take Water for Water and a Command for a Command and had always been accustomed to that of Water Besides such a continued Chain of Practices from Christ's Ascension to this day must needs inser either Christ's Institution or their gross Superstition We have shewn before that this Baptism was not John's and if the Apostles were the Authors and Beginners of such a Practice we would be glad to know whether it were in their own wills or no whether they had a Revelation and Command in themselves from the Spirit of Christ within Edw. Burrows says For you to go P. 47. without the moving of the Spirit in your own wills and strength God hares this and upon this is his wrath And Whitehead says To baptize preach and pray P. 22. l. ● they that perform these Acts in their own wills without the moving the Spirit they are not accepted therein but rejected of God We hope they will not say that the apostles baptized in their own w●lls and it was but a carnal C●●nitical popish Sacrifice they offered herein If they had not a Command in themselves supposing they had had none from without they were Will-worshippers and if they had they must have it from Christ Again here was such a Privilege annext to this Water-Baptism Regeneration Remission of Sins Titus 3. 5. Joh. 3. 2 5. Acts 2. 38. and 22. 16. as proves it to be more than the dabbling the Face with a little common Water as they profanely scoff a Privilege cou'd never have been joined to it but by Christ's Authority Again however it might have been practised in compliance it could not have been imposed upon the Churches by Command he commanded them to be baptized of any Authority less than Christ's without great Superstition Further we prove that all the Scripture Instances can't be meant of Baptism with the Holy Ghost because Baptism with the Holy Ghost in some measure was always preparative to that Baptism no doubt there were further improvements of the Measures afterwards that were the Gifts of the Holy Ghost accompanying Water Baptism and they were to expect the Holy Ghost in the falled and most ample measure after Christ's 〈◊〉 some measure of the Holy Ghost was always required to sit and 〈◊〉 Men for it And when it is said Acts 8. 16. as yet be was fallen upon none of them it can't be meant the Holy Ghost was not come upon any of them in any measure at all before the Quakers themselves will not say so sure who tell us the Light and the Spirit are in every one that was evidently spoken as appears in the 2 Uses following of the Gift of Miracles that Simon so ambitiously affected See Act 8 12 〈◊〉 they believed they were baptized 37. If thou believest with all thine heart Acts 2. 41. T●●y that gladly received the Word were baptized Act. 16. 14 15. Lydia as soon as her heart was opened was baptized 33. The laylor and his whole House as soon as converted were baptized streightway all this could not be without some previous Gift of the Holy Ghost to them to put all out of doubt See Acts 10. 47. Can any forbid Water that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Ghost as well as we Farther Baptism was appointed as a means whereby the inward Baptism of the Holy Ghost was given and therefore the Scripture-Baptisn was not the Baptism of the Holy Ghost Acts 2. 38. Be baptized and ye shall receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost as also Fphes 5. 26. that he might sa●ctifie and cleanse it with the washing of Water c. and Joh. 3. 5. Farther Water Baptism was appointed by Christ as an initiating Sign whereby Believers were to be admitted into Christ's visible Church and no Man can be admitted into a visible Society by a Sign that is invisible as Baptism with the Holy Ghost is By Baptism we list our selves into Christ's Company take the Mil●ary wath of Fidelity to him and being baptized we are reckoned Christ's Soldiers and Se●v●●●s Joh. 4 1. He baptized and made Disciples made them visible Disciples by baptizing them which could not be by Baptism with the Holy Ghost which is altogether secret and invisible the ●f●e as s●on as ever Men were converted they were baptized Acts 22. 16. Why tar●●est thou c. So Lydia as soon as her heart was opened Acts 16. 14 15 so he Jailor ver ●3 〈◊〉 Baptism was the outward Sign Mark o● Character appointed by Christ whereby the S●c●e●y of Christians are known and distinguished from all other Societies in the World It were strange if any Society should be distinguished and known from an their by that which is invisible as Baptism with the Holy Ghost is 1. 'T is evident the Church must be a visible Society being a City upon an Hill Matih 5. 14 The Quakers themselves are a Society distinguished by some Marks and Characters o● how should we k●●w who were of the Quaker Church and who not Th●y have their Marks I say but far from Christ's Appointment they are yeaing and ●●ying and loudly decrying the outward visible Marks of Ch●●●●s Institution The Disciples of Moses as they were distinguished by their Circumcision and therefore they were called by Horace Curti Judaei so by their Baptism and John's Disciples by their Baptism and Christ's by his This was the Badge and ●●very the Christians wore to let the World know whose Servants they were and that they were not ashamed of their poor Master that gave it them therefore when they were baptized they were said to put on Christ Gal 3. 17 and when

Men renourced their Christianity and turned Turks they laid aside this Livery and took up 〈◊〉 Circumcision and spit at the mention of the Name of Ch●ist and from thence are accounted true Musselmen so that Quakers by rejecting Water Baptism ar●g●● half way to Turky There was a memorable Advertisement from Dorsetshire 't is before the Answer to Mr. Den's Quaker no Papist in the Gag for Quakers of a strange Discovery made o● many Witches in and near Sh●rborn they were near 200 of them at one Meeting most of them Quakers and Anabaptists it tells us 3 Men and 2 Women formerly Quakers committed to Dorch●ster Goal where they were Prisoners at the w●iting of that Advertisement confessed upon Examination and since their Commitment to sundry Persons who have visited them that when the Devil first appeared to them and tempted them to be Witches before he would admit them into that Sacred Ord●r he caused them to renounce their Baptism and truly the Devil had s●me reason for this to make them tear off the Livery of their old Master his greatest Enemy before he took them into his Service besides in Baptism they had renounced him and all his Works and he thought it necessary such a Covenant should be cancelled before they entred a new League with him and if Quakers had doubted the Truth of this in those days they might have gone and visited their Friends in Goal as hundreds did and been satisfied from their own mouths The Devil in our days need not put most of our Quakers to the trouble of renouncing Baptism who never receiv'd it and so are in a more appropriate disposition to be taken into that Service Margaret Bradl● and Mary Langhorn perhaps might commence Witches without such a Solemnity these Quaker Witches would have taken away the Life of their Brother-in-Law Winder by a false Accusation at Carlisic Assizes they were eminent Teachers amongst the Quakers neither did they ever disown them for their Villainy See Snake 305. 306 307. and no doubt there have been hundreds more such Instances that have bewitched multitudes into horrid Ravings Yellings Foamings and Convulsions as soon as they have come into their Meetings You may believe in every one of them as well as those of Sh●rborn the principal Article of the Contract was if ever they received it to renounce Baptism Oh how Converts of old in Times of Persecution would crowd to Baptism though they burut for it they would run through the Fire to Water Baptism ambiti●us of the honour of being known to be Christ's Servants which they were by b●ing baptized Had Quakers lived in those days they would never have been known to be Christians by a little yeaing and naying only for a Mode of Speech their Christ being no such Man as the Heathens were incens'd against nothing but Meekness Patience Temperance Chastity c. which the Heathens were great Admirers of No Brother Heathen would never have hurt a Quaker they are these wicked Christians the Quakers cry out of as their Persecutors as the Christians cried out of the Heathens Quakers and Heathens are too good friends to fall out for a Yea and Nay As for their Objections out of Scripture if need had been we could have brought most of them as Proofs of the Doctrine they have brought them to oppose thei● Goliah Argument is from the 1 Cor 1. 14 15 16 17. I was not sent to baptize but to preach the Gospel We shall not need to prove that this is Water-Baptism here spoken of having proved it before Besides they acknowledge it which I believe they would never have done but only that they might screw an Objection out of it against Water-Baptism for hence they observe to us Paul an Apostle was never sent to baptize with Water or otherwise why should they not yield the same word signifies the same thing in other places By the way let us premise when a Doctrine is proved by such Arguments the Command of Christ the Practice of the Apostles and the whole Christian Wo●ld to this day 't is not to be overth own by one Objection out of Scripture that may bear a sence as well agreeing with that Doctrine as the sence that opposes it Our Arguments should first be answer'd which because they cannot do they busie themselves in finding out difficulties If this were enough the Being of God and Existence of Souls Doctrines as demonstratively proved as any in the World might be overthrown for the Atheist hath found difficulties enough to puzzle and perplex them But though this way of theirs be a very fallacious Artifice yet we stall no be afraid to grapple with their Objections this mighty one in particular But why doth St Paul thank God he baptized so few if an Ordinance of Christ 'T is evident he baptized some and if he had not been impower'd by Christ to baptize I would have been presumption in him to have bapazed any body But why so few As in the 15th 't is answered by himself lest any one should say I baptized in my own name You may observe from v. 10 how childishly they began to range themselves into Sides and Parties one was for Paul another for Apollos as if they had only baptized and made Disciples to themselves to set up as many Sects of Christians as they had done of Philosophe●s under their several Masters Ver. 13. Do you think says Paul you were baptized into the Name of Paul or Peter or Apollos I thank God says he as it happen'd I baptized none of you that you may have no pretence for such a Schism under my Name he does not thank God they had not been baptized but that he had not done it for the abovesaid reason But you will say then su e here was a great stress laid upon Water Baptism because there were so few thus baptized A Consequence indeed because he baptized so few therefore there were no more baptized May not a Man as justly inferr the contrary though there have been multitudes of them baptized yet I have baptized but few of them especially if you compare this place with Acts 18. 8. where a great many other Corinthians were baptized as well as Crispus and Gaius But ver 17. St Paul says Christ sen him not to baptize but to preach the Gospel We answer every Apostle besides a general Commission had commonly a particular Mission Their general Commission gave them Power and Authority through the whole World to preach bu● because that had been too numerous a Parish and it would have been impossible for them to have executed those Powers by p●eaching to every Person in the World it pleased God by a secret Motion and Impulse of the Spirit to send them into several Quarters one to the Gentiles another to the Jews one in●o Spain another into the Indies to preach there for the more orderly and effectual execution of those Powers in the World St. Paul had Power and Authority in his