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A25999 The folly of a libeller made manifest being some brief observations upon a libel, lately published, and abusively entituled, The dangerous imposture of Quakerism : wherein the envious abuses of that author are detected / by Richard Ashby. Ashby, Richard, 1663?-1734. 1699 (1699) Wing A3940; ESTC R13633 8,177 15

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and Profaneness his Charge reflects upon Christ and his holy Apostles who assert the Spiritual Appearance or Indwelling of Christ in Men and returns upon himself and proves him in Excess of Error and Profaneness and for proof see Christ's own words John 14.20 17.23 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father and you in me and I in you I in them and they in me that the World may know that thou hast sent me c. And Col. 1.27 Christ in you the hope of Glory To which for Brevity sake I shall only add 2 Cor. 13.5 and Rom. 8.9 10. Now we do not hold the Spiritual Appearance of Christ in opposition to his being Exalted in Glory at God's Right Hand but we do believe it according to Holy Scripture-Testimony and that he is our Mediator appearing in the Presence of God for us If this Author has charged us through Ignorance his Crime is the less but if through Prejudice let him consider whose Testimonies these are above recited and see if he can clear himself from Blasphemy who hath not only charged the Quakers but Christ and his Apostles for we assert no other thing but what they have done Dang Impost This is the Fundamental Error and Prodigious Delusion that the Author of Quakerism entertain'd and set up in the World and this his Followers defend and maintain to this Day Answ I have before shewn Christ's own Testimony and the Apostles concerning the Spiritual Indwelling of Christ Surely some Eminent Judgment has befallen this Author and he is strongly Deluded and Blind in calling a Fundamental Gospel-Truth Error and Prodigious Delusion Paul saith Rom. 8.9 Now if any Man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his Can a Man have the Spirit of Christ and yet not have Christ When the Apostle says 2 Cor. 3.17 The Lord is that Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty Thus having prov'd from Scripture That to be a precious Fundamental-Truth which he calls Error and such a Truth as our Souls Everlasting Well-being depends upon I shall pass by the rest of his First Part without farther notice For the Foundation proving false all that is built upon it falls Therefore I come to his Second Part To consider his Charges that he saith are Pernicious to Humane Society And First The Quakers deny the Lawfulness of an Oath even in Courts of Judicature Answ The Scripture-Testimonies that speak so plainly in behalf of our Christian Principle herein Mat. 5.34 to 37. James 5.12 concerning Swearing being very obvious it is very strange that this Author shou'd thus charge the Doctrine of Christ and the Apostle James as being Pernicious to Humane Society but surely the Beam is in his own Eye and he in that spirit that is pernicious to Humane Society His Second Pernicious Doctrine is Our not putting off our Hats td Superiours Answ We are perswaded our Superiours have more Charitable Thoughts of us True Honour and Respect doth not consist in putting off our Hats We honour all Men in the Lord and Magistrates in their Station believing Magistracy is an Ordinance of God and we are ready to obey Magistrates in every good Work though we cannot conform to the vain Customs of the World Remember the Caution of the Apostle Be not Conformed to this World but be ye Transformed by the Renewing of your Minds Rom. 12.2 His Third Pernicious Doctrine is Our refusing to Fight This he renders with some Agravation Answ We are concerned to Fight under Christ's Banner not with Men but with Sin and the Devil the Author of Sin and do believe if People were more concerned herein they might come to know that Scripture fulfilled namely When a Man's ways please the Lord he will make his Enemies to be at peace with him Prov. 16.7 There are many Glorious Promises in Scripture concerning the Cessation of War we believe it will be gradually fulfilled and the time is come and coming when the Swords shall be beaten into Plow-shares and the Spears into Pruning-hooks and Nation shall not lift up Sword against Nation nor learn War any more as in Isa 23. Micah 4.3 The Lord hasten this time and help us to Love our Enemies and to overcome Evil with that which is Good Now if Men live in Love suppress Vice and promote Vertue surely this is the only Preservative to Humane Society because the Angel of the Lord encamps about them that fear him and delivereth them Psalm 34.7 Now I come to those Doctrines he charges as Pernicious to Christian Religion which he saith are First The denying the use of the Two Sacraments Baptism and the Lord's Supper and adds The Son of God judged it expedient to Establish these sensible Rites for Religious Purposes Answ That which is Pernicious to the Christian Religion is the want of Charity among Men and their straining things farther than they are expressed in the Holy Scriptures and then calling them Christ's Ordinances This Author had done something to his purpose if he had proved by plain Scripture where Christ did establish these sensible Rites for Religious Purposes as he would have that which he calls the Two Sacraments Baptism and the Lord's Supper to be where did ever our Lord Jesus ordain That all People must be Dipped or Sprinkled with a little Water And where did Christ ordain the use of the outward Bread and the Cup as his peculiar Ordinance for his Church to continue in the Practice of to the end of the Word If Jesus Christ hath ordained these things shew us them in his own words in the Holy Scripture for it is not Mens Arguments that makes Christ's Ordinances but the very Words of him that Ordaineth them We do believe that when Christ is injoyed in Spirit he doth in a more excellent manner discover himself to the Soul than any outward Remembrancer of him can do We do not look upon these outward Signs and Shadows to be agreeable to the Gospel-Dispensation yet where any are truly Consciencious being perswaded it is their Duty to Practice these outward things we are tender towards such and desire they may come to see thorough all Signs and Shadows unto Christ who is the Substance and feed upon him who is the Living Bread that cometh down from Heaven that a Man may eat thereof and not die John 6.50 to 58. His Second as Pernicious to Christian Religion is The denying and vilfying a Learned Ministry as unnecessary and unlawful Answ We own and highly esteem Gospel-Ministry But that which is Pernicious to Christian Religion is the exalting Humane Learning in Opposition to the Holy Spirit 's Teaching by this hath great Confusion crept in among Religious Societies which might have been prevented had that Learning which is truly Christian been minded as is set forth in 1 Cor. 2. and in 2 Cor. 3.4 5 6. Here is true Christian Learning by the Spirit of God by which the Mind of God