Selected quad for the lemma: water_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
water_n	baptism_n	lord_n	supper_n	4,203	5	8.7373	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A00604	Transubstantiation exploded: or An encounter vvith Richard the titularie Bishop of Chalcedon concerning Christ his presence at his holy table Faithfully related in a letter sent to D. Smith the Sorbonist, stiled by the Pope Ordinarie of England and Scotland. By Daniel Featley D.D. Whereunto is annexed a publique and solemne disputation held at Paris with Christopher Bagshaw D. in Theologie, and rector of Ave Marie Colledge.	Featley, Daniel, 1582-1645.; Bagshaw, Christopher, d. 1625?; Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.	1638 (1638)	STC 10740; ESTC S101890	135,836	299

it_o possible_a say_v he_o that_o that_o which_o be_v in_o a_o subject_n shall_v remain_v when_o the_o subject_n be_v take_v away_o it_o be_v a_o monstrous_a thing_n and_o most_o repugnant_a to_o reason_n that_o that_o which_o have_v no_o be_v but_o in_o a_o subject_n shall_v yet_o be_v when_o the_o subject_n be_v not_o that_o which_o you_o adore_v as_o a_o miracle_n saint_n austin_n bless_v himself_o from_o as_o from_o a_o monster_n and_o indeed_o it_o be_v a_o monstrous_a thing_n and_o prodigious_a to_o hear_v of_o quantity_n and_o nothing_o big_a or_o little_a of_o whiteness_n in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o nothing_o white_a thickness_n and_o nothing_o thick_a redness_n and_o nothing_o red_a moisture_n and_o nothing_o moist_a it_o go_v beyond_o all_o the_o fiction_n in_o ovid_n his_o metamorphosis_n to_o turn_v accident_n into_o substance_n and_o substance_n into_o accident_n to_o talk_v of_o mere_a accident_n break_v eat_v digest_v and_o void_v to_o tell_v we_o of_o accident_n putrify_v and_o grow_a finwood_n and_o mouldy_a and_o breed_a vermin_n of_o accident_n freeze_v and_o congeal_v nay_o of_o accident_n not_o only_o subsist_v by_o themselves_o but_o also_o support_v substance_n as_o when_o dirt_n stick_v to_o the_o sacrament_n through_o negligence_n it_o have_v fall_v to_o the_o ground_n or_o when_o poison_n have_v be_v put_v into_o it_o wherewith_o hist._n victor_n the_o three_o and_o henry_n the_o four_o of_o luxenburg_n take_v their_o bane_n it_o will_v not_o serve_v your_o turn_n here_o to_o fly_v to_o a_o miracle_n as_o nube_fw-la homer_n when_o he_o be_v at_o a_o stand_n do_v to_o a_o cloud_n for_o s._n miraculous_a austin_n ex_fw-la professo_fw-la deny_v the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v miraculous_a the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v know_v of_o man_n and_o administer_v by_o man_n may_v have_v reverence_n as_o holy_a thing_n not_o admiration_n we_o can_v be_v astonish_v at_o they_o as_o at_o miracle_n but_o your_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n can_v be_v maintain_v without_o more_o miracle_n than_o there_o be_v letter_n in_o the_o word_n of_o consecration_n from_o whence_o i_o conclude_v ergo_fw-la saint_n austin_n believe_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n touch_v the_o six_o whosoever_o teach_v once_o that_o christ_n body_n be_v confine_v to_o a_o certain_a place_n and_o there_o be_v after_o the_o manner_n of_o other_o body_n with_o distinction_n of_o part_n overthrow_v the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n for_o your_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n put_v christ_n body_n upon_o a_o million_o of_o altar_n at_o once_o and_o teach_v that_o it_o be_v whole_a in_o the_o whole_a and_o whole_a in_o every_o part_n of_o the_o host_n be_v there_o as_o invisible_a so_o also_o indivisible_a but_o saint_n austin_n teach_v that_o christ_n body_n be_v confine_v to_o one_o place_n at_o once_o and_o be_v there_o after_o the_o manner_n of_o other_o body_n with_o distinction_n of_o part_n or_o as_o the_o logician_n speak_v parte_fw-la extra_fw-la partem_fw-la first_o in_o general_n he_o lay_v down_o this_o corpus_fw-la rule_n place_n compass_v every_o body_n and_o 〈◊〉_d how_o great_a or_o small_a soever_o a_o body_n be_v it_o take_v up_o some_o space_n of_o place_n and_o so_o fill_v that_o place_n that_o it_o be_v whole_a in_o no_o one_o part_n of_o it_o and_o take_v away_o say_v he_o the_o space_n of_o place_n from_o body_n and_o they_o will_v be_v no_o where_o and_o because_o they_o will_v be_v no_o where_o they_o will_v not_o be_v at_o all_o and_o in_o the_o same_o possunt_fw-la epistle_n body_n so_o possess_v place_n with_o their_o bulk_n that_o they_o can_v be●…_n together_o in_o distant_a space_n and_o torum_fw-la because_o the_o severa_fw-la part_n of_o they_o hold_v severa_fw-la space_n of_o place_n the_o less_o part_n lesser_a and_o the_o great_a great_a it_o can_v be_v who●…_n in_o each_o part_n but_o there_o be_v large_a quantity_n in_o large_a part_n and_o a_o short_a in_o t●…_n short_a and_o in_o no_o part_n be_v th●…_n quantity_n so_o great_a as_o it_o through_o the_o whole_a a_o in_o particular_a concern_v christ_n body_n he_o affirm_v that_o the_o condition_n of_o a_o tr●…_n body_n require_v that_o sin●…_n his_o ascension_n it_o be_v place_v be_v some_o modum_fw-la certain_a place_n of_o th●…_n heaven_n and_o that_o one_o one●…_n at_o once_o till_o the_o end_n of_o th●…_n world_n the_o lord_n be_v above_o and_o yet_o his_o truth_n be_v here_o wi●…_n we_o for_o our_o lord_n body_n in_o which_o he_o rise_v from_o the_o dead_a must_v be_v in_o one_o est_fw-la place_n his_o truth_n be_v every_o where_o the_o mundo_fw-la poor_a you_o have_v always_o with_o you_o but_o i_o you_o shall_v not_o have_v always_o let_v good_a man_n receive_v this_o say_n without_o fear_n for_o he_o speak_v this_o of_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o body_n for_o according_a to_o his_o providence_n according_a to_o his_o unspeakable_a and_o visible_a grace_n that_o be_v fulfil_v which_o be_v speak_v by_o he_o behold_v i_o be_o with_o you_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n christ_n be_v absent_a yet_o be_v present_a he_o be_v go_v and_o yet_o he_o be_v here_o he_o be_v return_v and_o yet_o have_v not_o forsake_v we_o for_o his_o body_n he_o have_v bring_v into_o heaven_n his_o majesty_n he_o have_v not_o take_v from_o the_o world_n neither_o will_v your_o common_a answer_n hold_v water_n that_o christ_n body_n natural_o be_v but_o in_o one_o place_n yet_o by_o miracle_n it_o may_v be_v and_o be_v in_o so_o many_o thousand_o place_n at_o once_o as_o the_o sacrament_n be_v celebrate_v for_o 1._o we_o 1._o ought_v not_o to_o argue_v from_o the_o power_n of_o god_n to_o his_o will_n but_o on_o the_o contrary_a from_o his_o will_n to_o his_o power_n whatsoever_o he_o will_v do_v he_o can_v do_v but_o he_o can_v do_v many_o thing_n which_o he_o never_o will_n prove_v that_o he_o will_v put_v his_o body_n in_o a_o 1000_o place_n at_o once_o and_o we_o will_v never_o contest_v with_o you_o about_o his_o power_n 2._o i_o before_o 2._o show_v you_o out_o of_o saint_n austin_n that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v reverence_v as_o holy_a thing_n not_o to_o be_v admire_v as_o strange_a and_o marvellous_a sign_n they_o be_v of_o grace_n which_o be_v proper_o call_v mystery_n not_o signa_fw-la potentiae_fw-la which_o be_v proper_o call_v miracle_n the_o effect_n indeed_o of_o this_o sacrament_n in_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a as_o also_o of_o the_o other_o be_v supernatural_a yet_o as_o the_o water_n in_o baptism_n be_v not_o by_o miracle_n turn_v into_o christ_n blood_n 3._o so_o neither_o be_v the_o bread_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n by_o miracle_n turn_v into_o his_o body_n 3._o saint_n austin_n in_o this_o 50._o tract_n upon_o john_n use_v a_o argument_n like_a to_o that_o of_o the_o angel_n mat._n 286._o he_o be_v not_o here_o for_o he_o be_v rise_v christ_n hic_fw-la according_a to_o his_o flesh_n be_v not_o now_o with_o we_o because_o he_o be_v ascend_v into_o heaven_n which_o reason_n if_o it_o have_v any_o force_n at_o all_o must_v imply_v and_o presuppose_v that_o christ_n body_n at_o the_o same_o time_n can_v not_o be_v in_o heaven_n and_o upon_o earth_n 4._o this_o father_n in_o his_o 20_o book_n against_o possit_fw-la faustus_n the_o manichee_n conclude_v not_o only_o that_o christ_n body_n be_v not_o in_o more_o place_n at_o once_o but_o that_o it_o can_v not_o be_v the_o dilemma_n there_o he_o use_v against_o they_o be_v this_o when_o you_o manichee_n believe_v that_o christ_n be_v at_o once_o in_o the_o sun_n the_o moon_n and_o the_o cross_n whether_o mean_v you_o according_a to_o his_o spiritual_a presence_n as_o god_n or_o according_a to_o his_o corporal_a presence_n as_o man_n if_o you_o speak_v of_o his_o spiritual_a presence_n according_a to_o that_o he_o can_v not_o suffer_v those_o thing_n if_o of_o his_o corporal_a presence_n according_a to_o it_o he_o can_v not_o be_v at_o once_o in_o the_o sun_n in_o the_o moon_n and_o in_o the_o crosse._n certain_o if_o in_o saint_n augustine_n judgement_n christ_n body_n can_v not_o be_v in_o three_o place_n at_o once_o it_o can_v much_o less_o be_v in_o three_o million_o of_o place_n where_o mass_n be_v say_v at_o the_o same_o hour_n i_o conclude_v therefore_o this_o argument_n and_o this_o chapter_n ergo_fw-la saint_n austin_n overthrow_v your_o carnal_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n by_o transubstautiation_n par._n ii_o twelve_o testimony_n out_o of_o origen_n against_o transubstantiation_n vindicate_v and_o all_o objection_n out_o of_o he_o answer_v the_o next_o ancient_a doctor_n i_o claim_v at_o the_o conference_n for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n concern_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v litera_fw-la origen_n who_o in_o his_o seven_o

to_o be_v the_o symbol_n or_o sacrament_n of_o his_o body_n as_o also_o why_o he_o rather_o choose_v wine_n then_o any_o other_o liquour_n to_o be_v the_o emblem_n and_o memorial_n of_o his_o blood_n we_o can_v assign_v certain_o no_o other_o reason_n then_o his_o mere_a will_n tertullian_n his_o guess_n be_v but_o probable_a that_o christ_n in_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n have_v a_o eye_n to_o the_o prophecy_n of_o jeremy_n or_o jacob_n but_o 〈◊〉_d be_v it_o probable_a or_o necessary_a it_o matter_n not_o see_v it_o be_v confess_v on_o all_o hand_n that_o bread_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o christ_n body_n though_o not_o now_o a_o legal_a type_n yet_o a_o evangelicall_n be_v both_o it_o make_v the_o strong_a for_o this_o gloss_n of_o tertullian_n this_o bread_n be_v my_o body_n that_o be_v a_o figure_n of_o 6_o my_o body_n but_o here_o s._n e._n help_v you_o at_o a_o dead_a lift_n allege_v a_o testimony_n out_o of_o machar●…_n tertullians_n book_n the_o resurrectione_n carnis_fw-la for_o the_o carnal_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n the_o word_n of_o tertullian_n be_v these_o the_o flesh_n be_v wash_v that_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v cleanse_v the_o flesh_n feed_v upon_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v fat_v by_o god_n of_o this_o place_n of_o tertullian_n he_o be_v as_o proud_a as_o p●…lius_n in_o the_o proverb_n be_v of_o his_o sword_n not_o observe_v that_o the_o point_n of_o it_o lie_v against_o himself_o for_o if_o he_o expound_v these_o word_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o father_n the_o sign_n have_v usual_o the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n signify_v by_o they_o then_o he_o confirm_v our_o figurative_a interpretation_n understand_v by_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n the_o symbol_n or_o sign_n thereof_o upon_o which_o our_o flesh_n seed_n when_o we_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n but_o if_o he_o understand_v the_o word_n of_o tertullian_n proper_o as_o if_o our_o very_a flesh_n or_o stomach_n turn_v christ_n body_n into_o corporal_a nourishment_n and_o so_o real_o feed_v upon_o it_o to_o fatten_v or_o cheer_v our_o soul_n he_o make_v tertullian_n blaspheme_v and_o he_o give_v the_o lie_n to_o his_o lord_n yourself_o who_o page_n 65._o in_o express_a term_n affirm_v that_o in_o the_o fucharist_n there_o be_v no_o violence_n offer_v to_o christ_n his_o flesh_n in_o itself_o nor_o be_v it_o eat_v to_o the_o end_n our_o body_n may_v thereby_o be_v nourish_v to_o affirm_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o our_o mortal_a body_n be_v nourish_v or_o increase_v by_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n take_v in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o make_v the_o eucharist_n cibum_fw-la ventris_fw-la non_fw-la mentis_fw-la the_o food_n of_o the_o belly_n not_o of_o the_o soul_n than_o which_o gross_a conceit_n nothing_o can_v be_v more_o absurd_a in_o the_o judgement_n of_o your_o own_o cardinal_n potest_fw-la bellarmine_n tertullian_n disclaim_v this_o carnal_a fancy_n in_o the_o very_a word_n allege_v by_o your_o chaplain_n ut_fw-la anima_fw-la saginetur_fw-la the_o flesh_n say_v the_o father_n feed_v on_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v fat_v the_o soul_n not_o the_o body_n if_o he_o demand_v how_o can_v the_o soul_n be_v satisfy_v or_o fat_v by_o the_o bread_n in_o the_o sacrament_n if_o it_o be_v not_o turn_v into_o christ_n body_n i_o answer_v out_o of_o the_o former_a word_n of_o tertullian_n even_o as_o the_o soul_n be_v cleanse_v in_o baptism_n by_o wash_v the_o body_n with_o water_n though_o that_o water_n be_v not_o turn_v into_o christ_n blood_n you_o have_v hear_v that_o 53._o tertullian_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o lisp_v in_o your_o language_n hear_v now_o how_o loud_o he_o speak_v in_o we_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n say_v he_o be_v to_o be_v take_v from_o the_o matter_n for_o because_o they_o think_v his_o speech_n hard_a and_o intolerable_a unless_o you_o cate_z the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n as_o if_o he_o have_v appoint_v his_o flesh_n true_o and_o in_o very_a deed_n to_o be_v eat_v of_o they_o he_o premise_v it_o be_v the_o spirit_n which_o quicken_v and_o a_o little_a after_o appoint_v his_o word_n to_o be_v the_o quickener_n because_o his_o word_n be_v spirit_n and_o life_n he_o call_v the_o same_o his_o flesh_n for_o the_o word_n be_v make_v flesh_n therefore_o to_o be_v desire_v with_o a_o appetite_n to_o give_v and_o maintain_v life_n in_o we_o to_o be_v eat_v by_o digerendus_fw-la hear_v to_o be_v chew_v by_o understanding_n to_o be_v digest_v by_o believe_v these_o word_n be_v so_o plain_a that_o you_o can_v mistake_v the_o meaning_n of_o they_o and_o if_o you_o shall_v go_v about_o to_o draw_v they_o to_o any_o carnal_a sense_n or_o eat_a christ_n with_o the_o mouth_n he_o will_v check_v you_o in_o the_o word_n follow_v where_o he_o say_v that_o christ_n use_v a_o tertul._n allegory_n in_o this_o place_n now_o a_o allegory_n be_v a_o figure_n in_o which_o a_o other_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v divers_a from_o that_o which_o the_o word_n import_v take_v in_o the_o usual_a and_o proper_a sense_n doubtless_o he_o who_o hold_v the_o bread_n at_o the_o lord_n table_n to_o be_v a_o representation_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o the_o wine_n a_o memorial_n of_o his_o blood_n believe_v not_o that_o the_o bread_n be_v turn_v into_o his_o body_n or_o the_o wine_n into_o his_o blood_n for_o no_o picture_n be_v the_o life_n itself_o no_o memorial_n be_v of_o a_o thing_n present_v but_o absent_a but_o representat_fw-la tertullian_n call_v bread_n that_o whereby_o christ_n represent_v his_o own_o body_n take_v the_o word_n represent_v in_o the_o same_o sense_n which_o saint_n nativitatem_fw-la bernar_n do_v as_o christ_n after_o a_o sort_n be_v sacrifice_v every_o day_n when_o we_o show_v forth_o his_o death_n so_o he_o seem_v to_o be_v bear_v while_o we_o faithful_o represent_v his_o birth_n as_o the_o figure_n sign_n or_o that_o whereby_o any_o thing_n be_v represent_v or_o set_v before_o the_o eye_n be_v not_o the_o thing_n itself_o so_o neither_o a_o monument_n or_o a_o memorial_n of_o our_o friend_n be_v our_o friend_n the_o wine_n therefore_o which_o consecravit_fw-la tertullian_n say_v christ_n consecrate_v for_o a_o memorial_n of_o his_o blood_n can_v be_v his_o very_a blood_n the_o same_o father_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o tertul._n flesh_n of_o christ_n smile_v at_o the_o heretic_n who_o imagine_v christ_n to_o have_v flesh_n hard_a without_o cruemam_fw-la bone_n solid_a without_o muscle_n bloody_a without_o blood_n etc._n etc._n they_o say_v he_o that_o fancy_v such_o a_o christ_n as_o this_o that_o deceive_v and_o delude_v all_o man_n eye_n and_o sense_n and_o touching_n shall_v not_o bring_v he_o from_o heaven_n but_o fetch_v he_o rather_o from_o some_o juggler_n tertul._n box_n i_o trow_v he_o mean_v not_o your_o popish_a pix_n yet_o sure_a such_o a_o flesh_n it_o enclose_v hard_o if_o it_o be_v so_o without_o bone_n solid_a without_o muscle_n and_o bloody_a without_o blood_n for_o you_o say_v christ_n blood_n be_v there_o and_o sh●…d_v too_o and_o yet_o tear_v i_o your_o mass_n a_o unbloody_a sacrifice_n i_o take_v you_o to_o be_v so_o ingenuous_a that_o you_o will_v not_o belie_v your_o sense_n i_o be_o sure_a you_o will_v confess_v that_o you_o see_v nothing_o in_o the_o pyx_n but_o the_o whiteness_n of_o bread_n in_o the_o chalice_n but_o the_o redness_n of_o wine_n no_o flesh_n or_o blood_n colour_n in_o either_o you_o taste_v nothing_o but_o bread_n in_o the_o one_o and_o the_o sapour_fw-la of_o wine_n in_o the_o other_o you_o touch_v no_o soft_a flesh_n with_o your_o hand_n nor_o quarry_n blood_n with_o your_o lip_n or_o tongue_n but_o i_o infer_v out_o of_o etc._n tertullian_n you_o must_v not_o question_v the_o truth_n of_o your_o sense_n lest_o thereby_o you_o weaken_v the_o sinew_n of_o our_o faith_n lest_o peradventure_o the_o heretic_n take_v advantage_n thereupon_o to_o say_v that_o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o christ_n see_v satan_n fall_v like_o lightning_n from_o heaven_n that_o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o he_o hear_v a_o voice_n from_o heaven_n but_o the_o sense_n be_v deceive_v be_v not_o the_o sense_n competent_a judge_n of_o their_o proper_a object_n even_o in_o the_o case_n we_o be_v now_o put_v viz._n the_o discern_a christ_n true_a body_n christ_n will_v never_o have_v 39_o appeal_v to_o they_o as_o he_o do_v behold_v my_o hand_n and_o my_o foot_n that_o be_v i_o myself_o handle_v i_o and_o see_v for_o a_o spirit_n have_v not_o flesh_n and_o bone_n as_o you_o see_v i_o have_v i_o have_v give_v a_o touch_n hitherto_o but_o tertul._n upon_o sing●…e_a testimony_n as_o it_o be_v