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A86599 An antidote against Hen. Haggar's poysonous pamphlet, entitled, The foundation of the font discovered: or, A reply wherein his audaciousness in perverting holy scriptures and humane writings is discovered, his sophistry in arguing against infant-baptism, discipleship, church membership &c. is detected, his contradictions demonstrated; his cavils agains M. Cook, M. Baxter, and M. Hall answered, his raylings rebuked, and his folly manifested. By Aylmar Houghton minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and teacher to the congregation of Prees, in the county of Salop. Houghton, Aylmer. 1658 (1658) Wing H2917; Thomason E961_1; ESTC R207689 240,876 351

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scripture_n 2._o the_o canonicalness_n of_o the_o history_n of_o susanna_n 3._o auricular_a confession_n 4._o purgatory_n etc._n etc._n certain_o 11._o certain_o vide_fw-la censuram_fw-la quorundam_fw-la scriptorum_fw-la veterum_fw-la à_fw-la rob._n coco_n p._n 71._o m_o p●oinde_fw-la homilias_fw-la illas_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la magnae_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la bellarm_n de_fw-fr verb._n dei_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 11._o those_o homily_n be_v bastard_n writing_n and_o undoubted_o there_o be_v more_o ingenuity_n in_o your_o dear_a brother_n bellarmine_n then_o in_o you_o who_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v cyril_n as_o some_o be_v of_o opinion_n and_o dare_v not_o affirm_v they_o to_o be_v origen_n but_o leau_v it_o with_o a_o nescio_fw-la cujus_fw-la m_o who_o every_o where_o destroy_v the_o letter_n and_o frame_v out_o of_o his_o head_n mystical_a sense_n and_o so_o conclude_v wherefore_o those_o homily_n be_v of_o no_o great_a
mr._n b._n say_v 3._o you_o will_v make_v mr._n baxter_n odious_a by_o say_v he_o take_v the_o devil_n part_n etc._n etc._n but_o sir_n you_o know_v the_o proverb_n a_o man_n must_v give_v the_o devil_n his_o due_n sure_o those_o godly_a minister_n do_v not_o take_v the_o devil_n part_n when_o they_o tell_v sinner_n that_o many_o time_n they_o belie_v the_o devil_n in_o father_v their_o sin_n on_o he_o rather_o than_o on_o themselves_o mat._n 15.19_o out_o of_o the_o heart_n proceed_v evil_a thought_n etc._n etc._n jam._n 1.14_o every_o man_n be_v tempt_v when_o he_o be_v draw_v away_o of_o his_o own_o lust_n 2_o pet._n 1._o ver_fw-la 4._o corruption_n be_v in_o the_o world_n through_o lust_n 4._o i_o fear_v that_o fault_n charge_v on_o mr._n baxter_n will_v be_v find_v within_o your_o own_o girdle_n before_o i_o leave_v you_o though_o you_o say_v you_o will_v now_o make_v it_o appear_v it_o seem_v than_o you_o fail_v in_o make_v it_o to_o appear_v as_o you_o say_v in_o the_o forego_n 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