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A08562 A manuell or briefe volume of controuersies of religion betweene the Protestants and the Papists wherein the arguments of both sides are briefely set downe, and the aduersaries sophismes are plainely refuted. Written in Latine in a briefe and perspicuous method by Lucas Osiander, and now Englished with some additions and corrections.; Enchiridion controversiarum. English Osiander, Lucas, 1571-1638. 1606 (1606) STC 18880; ESTC S101908 177,466 558

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the Papall councels In that there were witnesses without all exception but in these men do meet among whom there bee many vnlearned wicked in parte Epicures and such as have sworne homage to the Pope In the councell at Ierusalem the decrees were made out of the Scripture but the papall councells make constitutions very often against the Scripture This is therefore a loose reason 2 In the councell of the Priests and Scribes Caiaphas by the holy Ghost prophecied that it was better that one should dye for the people than that all the people should perish Ioh 11 50 Therefore Councells speake by the holy Ghost and are therefore to be obeyed Ans 1. Although Caiaphas vnnwittingly spake the truth that that it was better that one man should dye then all the people perish yet the mind and meaning of Caiaphas was nothing so But the definitiue sentence of the High Priest and the Councell was that Christ was an hereticke a blasphemer a seducer of the People a wicked man and such as well deserued the shamefull death of the crosse This was the decree of that councell which if the Papists will subscribe vnto they shall bee reckoned impious and blasphemous Men. And by alleaging this devilish councell they shall gaine small credite to their owne 2 This argument proceeds from a particular to an vniversall Caiaphas minding an other thing and vnwittingly spoke a fewe true wordes therefore all the decrees of their councells are simply in all thinges from the Holy Ghost and cannot in any case erre 3. They might with as much truth and better reason conclude that Southsaiers when they are sought vnto to speake for a rewarde cannot speake an vntruth Because that Balaam being consulted with of Balak to speake against Israel did on the contrarie side by inspiration blesse them and which is more then is sayde of Caiaphas coulde not doe otherwise and whereas the prophesie of Caiaphas was onely in his wordes which hee spoke in an other sense Balaams prophesie was both in his words and his meaning Numb 22 and 23. 3 Thou shalt not remove the ancient bounds which thy Fathers have made Pro. 22 28. Therfore the decrees of Councells are to be kept Ans 1 Wee have to deale with Counsells whose decrees are contrarie to the holy Scriptures the ancientest boundes of all Therefore are the Councells themselues tyed to this precept 2 This is an argument drawen from the not changing of antient things well ordained vnto new things constituted the last day that against right too 3 And this doe wee at this day against the Papists we shew men the antient limites and bounds which the Prophets Christ and the Apostles have set but the Bishops of R●me haue overturned and cover those most anti●t bounds with their new-fangled opinions humane Traditions 4 Which hee commanded our Fathers to teach their children that the posteritie might know it Psal 78 6 7. Therefore councells declare to vs those things which they were enioyned by this cōmandemēt to teach their childrē Answ 1. There is more in the Conclusion Simil. A Prince bid● his servant● be faithfull therefore none of the can bee vnfaithfull than in the premises for it followeth not God commaunded our Elders to deriue the truth to us therefore of certainty they did so 2 It is a changing of the manner of speach for the Antecedent containeth a commandement the consequent a storie or narration of the fulfilling of that commandement 5 Where two or three are gathered in my name there am I in the middest of them Math 18 20. Therefore the decrees of Counsels are sacred c. for they are gathered together in the name of Christ Answ 1. Heere be foure termes To be gathered together in the name of Christ is to be gathered according to his word and wil but this they apply to the companies of them which decree contrary to the word and will of Christ 2 It is a begging of the thing in question for this is the speciall doubt whether Counsels decreeing contrarie to the Scripture may be said to bee gathered in the name of Christ for it is not enough in counsels to bragg and make shew of the name of A protestation contrarie to thei● deeds Christ and to recite the wordes of the Apostolick Counsell It seemed good to the holy Ghost and to vs c. 6 In the assemblies of Counsels inuocation is made to the holy Ghost that hee would bee their guide Answ 1. That is done with Idolatrous rites It is as if a man should heare one aske aduice of a wise man but would not obay his aduice of the Papisticall Masse therefore their prai●rs are not heard nay such as their seruice is that is Idolatrous such is the Spirit which ruleth them 2 They obay not the Spirit whom they pray vnto neither doe they rest content with his pleasure comprised in the Scripture 7 But who would say that so many so great and so worthie men could all erre at once Answ 1. The Scripture saith that euerie man is a lyar therefore it is not a thing impossible Psa 116 11 that so many and so worthie men should erre 2 Wee cited before examples of famous Counsels which haue erred 3 There is no respect of persons with God 4 I giue thee thanks O Father saith Christ because thou hast hid these thinges from the wise Matthew 11 25 5 Not many wise men after the flesh not many mighty not many noble are called but God hath chosen the foolish thinges of the world to confound the wise 1 Corinthians 1 26 27 6 Onely one Prophet Micha spake the truth when in the meane time foure hundred false Prophets consented together in a lye 1 King 22. 8 All herisies at what time soeuer they haue sprunge vppe haue still beene ouerthrowne by Counsels therefore this honour is as yet due to Counsells Answere This is a fallacie putting that for the cause ●hich is not the cause for Councells not as For example so the Sam●ritans speak vnto the woman wee do not now beleeue because of thy words but because we haue heard him our selues Ioh. 4. 42. Counsells barely considered vnder the name of Councells but as prouing the truth by the word of God haue troden vnder foote and ouerthrown herisies Had the Papists such coūcells we would of our owne accord willingly giue them the honour due vnto them for their ●rue and right alleaging and expounding of Scriptures CHAP. 7. Of the Church FVrther yet the Papists seeke an other shift for the defending of their humane Traditions and Doctrines whiles boasting of the name of the Church with open mouth they tell vs that the true Church was of olde time at Rome and that the Bishop of Rome with his band are at this day that Church and that the Church cannot erre and that therfore all whatsoeuer is deliuered vnto vs from the Church of Rome is to be helde for most certaine and
17 11. Christ bids all in generall search the Scriptures Neither did hee giue this charge to the Priests alone but to others his hearers also Ioh 5 39. S. Peter willeth all euen Lay men too to be ready to giue an answer to euery man that asketh them a reason of the hope that is in them 1 Pet 3 15. which that they may do it is needfull that they learne it out of the Scripture Contrariwise our aduersaries reason thus 1 The Scripture hath many obscure things therefore the Lay people can reade it with profite Answ 1. Although all things be not to euery man plaine yet the people alwaies finde such things as they may vnderstand 1 those things which seeme hard by often reading become more easie 2 The Lay people by reading the Scriptures misvnderstood do easily fall into heresie it were better therefore they should refraine Ans 1. If they fall into heresie that comes accidentally not because they reade the Scriptures but because they read them not in such manner as they should do and doe preferre ●heir formerly conceiued opinions before the Scripture and wrest it to them 2 On the contrarie side good men and well minded hauing been deliuered frō herisie by reading the Scriptures haue returned to the truth 3 To whom it belongeth not to iudge of cōtrouersies to them neither doth it belong to read the Scriptures but it belongeth not to Lay-men to iudge of cōtrouersies therfore neither to read Ans 1 The Minor or second proposition is most false 2 Then had the Beraeans done amisse in reading and from thence deciding a controuersie then newely sprung vpp 3 Seeing euery one is bound to answer to God for himselfe it is needfull for euery Lay-man to proue all things and keepe that which is good 1 Thessa 5 21. 4 So should the order which discerneth betweene teachers learners be confounded Ans This we denie for a Lay hearer may try and examine those things he heareth by the Scripture remaine for all that a hearer still for he doth not therfore take vpon him the office of teaching in the church because he examineth the thinges which hee hath heard of his teacher by the touchston of the holy Scriptures As likewise the Beraeans became not therefore of the order of teachers because they iudged of the Sermons of Paul and Silas CHAP. 3 WHether the interpretation of the holy Scriptures bee to bee sought for from the Church of Rome This question arose from hence that the Papists seeing that wee did esteeme more of the holy Scripture than that we would suffer the authority thereof to be diminished and that the letter of the Scripture did manifestly make for vs did straight change the state of the question and said that the question was not of the authority of the Scripture but of the interpretation thereof the right of which interpretation they make to be so peculiar to the Church of Rome that they would binde vs to receaue any interpretations that should come from thence bee they neuer so absurd and false But we gainsay them herein and reiect the forged power wherby the Bishops of Rome make claime to the key of knowledge and interpretation as committed to them alone Reasons prouing our opinion Because the interpretations of the Papists contradict the euidences of holy Scripture as shall be most plainely prooued in his due place Because the greatest part of them are most vaine as for example that the eight Psalm is expounded by the Canonists as meant of the Pope which notwithstanding speakes of Christ alone as the Apostles and Christ himselfe haue interpreted it Because they affirme as by name Cusanus doth that if the minde and opinion of the Romane Church be changed that then the holy Ghost doth change his mind in the Scriptures too What an impious mad absurdity is this Many times they explaine not the Scripture but wrest it violently shamefully to vphold their own toyes contrary to the text of Scripture The gifts of God such as the interpretation of the Scripture is one are not tyed to certaine persons places for God distributes these his gifts to euery man as he will 1 Corinth 12 ●1 It is no where read that the whole Church is tied to the meaning of the Romaine Church but to the meaning of the holy Scripture which doth expound it selfe most clearely Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe argue 1 If we beleeue the Romane Church that it hath conuayed vnto vs the true proper books of the Bible and not counterfait and forged thē must wee belieue her also in the interpretation which she bringeth of the holy Scripture Ans 1. It is one thing to beare witnes of the truth of the sacred books and an other thing Simil ●t is one thing to acknowledge the Seals hanged to a Testament and another to expound it contrary to the Teuor of the letter to expound them So the Iewes are witnesses of the Canonicall books of the olde Testament yet we accept not of their Talmudicall interpretations 2 Moreover the interpretations of the Papists do contradict that same Scripture wherof they beare witnesse 2 The Scribes and Pharises sit in Moses chaire all therefore whatsoeuer they bid you obserue that obserue and do Mathew 23 2 3. Ans 1 The Pharisies were to be believed not simply in all things but when they sate in the chaire of Moses that is when they taught the truth out of the law of Moses It is therfore a fallacie from that which is spoken but in part and some respect to that which is absolutely spoken 2 They were to be hearkened vnto when they taught Moses but in the meane while Christ said also Take heede of the leaven of the Pharisies Now Christ by the leaven of the Pharisies meant their false doctrine as S. Mathew expressely witnesseth cap. 16 v. 12. that is Christ did reiect the Pharisies false interpretatiō of the Scripture So then wee must distinguish betweene the scripture it self which the Papists handle their false interpretatiō or humane traditiōs wherwith they defile it 3 God would have thē punished with death which would not obey the judgment of the high Priest Devter 17 12. Ans 1 Moses speaketh not of matters of faith but of civill government betweene bloud and bloud betweene plea and plea betweene plague and plague as the wordes of Moses are verse 8 in which matters for publike peace sake it was necessary there should be some order appointed for ending of controversies For the high Priest at that time was the highest Iudge from whom no man might appeale 2 It was not in the high Priests choise to judge as hee pleased but hee was tyed to the lawe of the Lord according to which he gave sentence In like sort is the Popetyed to it too 4 The Priests lippes shall preserue knowledge they shall seeke the law at his mouth for he is the messenger of the Lord of Hosts c
erred Galath 2 11 14. All admonitions and predictions of the changes of the Church of taking heede of 1 Iohn 2 18 c 1 cor 11 1● Math 7. 15 Act ●0 28 29 c 2 Thessal ● 2. 15. false teachers of diligent keeping of sound doctrine c were friuolous superfluous if ●t were impossible that the church shold err And why aboue all other Churches the Church of Rome whereof we now treate ●hould haue this speciall priuiledge that it ●annot erre there is not one sillable or title in ●he holy Scriptures Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 The Church is the pillar and ground of truth 1 Timothie 3. 15. Therefore it cannot erre and consequently the Church of Rome neuer did erre An. 1. There are heer foure terms because the Antecedent speakes of the true Church in which alone is Saluation to bee had and which is the keeper of the writings of the Prophets and Apostles but the consequent speaketh of the Church of Rome which is indeede the company and Church of Babilon 2 It is a fallacie from that which is spoken but in some respect onely to the same taken absolutely Because the Church is the pillar and ground of truth that is so long as it maintaineth the truth followes the direction of Gods word But and if it swarue aside from the word of God it can no longer be called the pillar of truth 2 Christ promised to the Church the Spirit of truth Iohn 14 16 17 Therefore the Church cannot erre Answer 1. This promise did principallie pertaine to the Apostles in whom it was most exactly fullfilled and secondarily to the Church which holdeth the doctrine of the Apostles such as the Church of Rome is not at this day 2 It followeth not the holy ghost was given to the Church therefore the Church shall retaine it forever Or the spirit was given to the Church therefore the Church dooth alwaies follow the direction and guiding of the Spirit For neither did Christ so promise his holy Spirit that needs it must abide with the Church howsoever the Church behaue it selfe and turne aside from the revealed Word of God For so the Church of the Galatians coulde never haue been seduced 3 Christ prayed for the Church Father sanctifie them with thy truth c Ioh 17 17. therefore it cannot err Ans 1 Here bee foure termes The Antecedent speakes of the companie of the Elect or the inuisible as is plaine by the whole text the consequent of the visible Church 2. It is a fallacie from that which is spoken but in some respect to the same taken absoly For Christ speakes so adding withall a condition Thy Word is truth Therefore this promise is tyed to the obseruance of that worde as to a certaine condition 4 My Spirit which is vpon thee and my words which I have put in thy mouth shall not depart out of thy mouth nor out of the mouth of thy seede from henceforth for euermore Isai 59 21. Ans 1 If this promise had beene made without condition then it would follow that God had not kept his promise For these words doe immediately goe before They shall feare the name of the Lord from the West and his glory from the rising of the sunne or the East but the Easterne Churches have had a most miserable downe-fall long agoe This promise therefore is condtionall as if God should say I will not forsake thee for ever if thou forsake not me It is therefore a fallacy from that which is spoken but in some respect to the same taken absolutely 2 This promise belongeth to the Church which obeieth the word of God vnto which God will never be wanting with his spirit 5 The Comforter shall abide with you for ever Ioh 14 16. therefore the Church of Rome cannot erre Ans 1 What agreement is there between the Apostles witnesses against whom no exception can be taken the present Church of Rome as now it is vnder the kingdome of the Pope which differeth so much from the Church which Paul taught at Rome as light dooth from darkenesse 2 There is no good consequence from that which is spoken indefinitely to the same spoken definitely or determinately but in the Antecedent the speech is indefinite in the consequent definite There be therfore in this reason foure termes 6 Christ sayth that hee will abide with his Church vntil the end of the World Mat 28 20. Therefore the Roman Church cannot erre Simil. The Husband promised that hee would bee faithfull to his wife all his life lōg therefore she ca●not become an adultere Ans 1 There is more in the conclusion than in the Premisses for it followeth not Christ remaineth with his Church therfore the Church can in nothing swarue from Christ 2 Besides the Argument is from that which is spoken indefinitely to the same taken definitely 3. And there bee foure termes For Christ speakes of the true Church wherewith the present Church of Rome to which our Aduersaries wrest this promise hath no agreement besides the bare and naked name onely 7 The gates of Hell shall not overcome the Church Mat 16 18. Ans 1 Heere bee foure termes In the Antecedent the Church is meant which is built vpon Christ his Word and Sacramēts but in the consequent such a Church is meant as is built vpon the Pope and Traditions of men 2 As long as the Church remaineth vpon this Rocke that is Christ it is inuincible but not so if it make defection from the Gospell of Christ CHAP 8. Of the Bishop of Rome THe Papists being driven from their holds which have now beene treated of doe flee to the authoritie of the Pope as to a sure sacred anchor For they imagine 1 that Christ appointed Peter as his Vicar in the Church 2. And gave vnto him both the dominiō over the whole Church and also the dominion of faith 3 that Peter was Bishop at Rome and gave the same authoritie of dominion to that sea or place 4 That the Bishops of Rome are his successours both in Power and Office And that therefore whatsoeuer proceedes out of their mouth of any point of Religion must needes be infallibly true and that all the faithfull or all Christians are bound to obey them From this rope platted of sand arise moreover these questions 1 Whether Christ have need of any such Vicar on earth 2 Whether Christ gave Peter authority power whereby he should beare rule over the rest of the Apostles and have the dominion of faith 3. Whether Peter were at Rome and did there constitute this order 4 Whether the Bishops of Rome be the successors of Peter the Apostle Question 1 Whether Christ have neede of any visible head or Vicar in his Church on Earth The Papists affirme and wee denie it for these reasons Christ had ill provided for his Church if he had ordained a man vniversall Vicar which might erre as beeing a man as
and therefore the place is fitly and properly translated There are diuersities of gifts 2 Wee haue receiued grace for grace Iohn 1 16. 1 This is a Doctour like exposition made of their meere Doctour like authoritie without reason wee haue receiued grace that is the grace of iustification for grace that is for the first preuenting grace but the meaning of Saint Iohn is because the sonne of God was in highest grace and fauour with his heauenly father therfore the father doth embrace vs also with his grace and louing kindnesse for his sonnes sake in whom we beleeue 2. That grace in this place is opposed vnto merites the wordes next following doe declare for the law was giuen by Moses but grace and truth came by Iesus Christ Heere Christ and Moses are opposed betwixt themselues as it were in the proper differences of their offices that is of wrath by the lawe and of grace by the Gospell 3 Grace is the gift of God Ephes 2. 8. therefore it is an infused and inherent habite Answere 1 It is a fallacie of composition and diuision arising from the construction of the words for the word gift is not simplie and alone construed with the word grace but with saluation by grace which if it might should haue been expressed in one word Brieffely plainely the Apostle saith not Grace is the gift of God but that ye are saued by grace that is the gift of God 2 and for the same cause the gift in this place is not a habite for gift is opposed there to workes and merites as being a thing that is bestowed of meere fauour 4 It is a good thing that the hart be established with grace Heb 13 9 Answere 1 It is a begging of the question because this is controuersed whether Grace doe in these wordes signifie an infused habite 2. In that very place the Apostle opposeth Grace to the vaine confidence of workes against them who put confidence in meates drinkes c. Therefore by the nature of contraries it appeareth that the worde grace is heere taken for the free fauour and mercy of God so the argument hangeth not together for in the Antecedent Grace is taken for the fauour of God in the consequent for an infused habite CHAP. 10. Of Iustification SEeing our aduersaries doe diuerse wayes wr●p and inuolue this disputation let vs devide it into certaine and distinct members and questions Question 1. And first of all whereas the word Iustification wrested to a wrong signification by our aduersaries as if to iustifie were of an vniust man to make one iust habitually or by a habite infused and seeing they hisse at imputed righteousnesse let vs consider the true signification of the word which is no other but to be absolved from the guilte of sinne that it bee not imputed but pardoned which appeareth to bee so by the reasons following Because the word Iustification is a borowed word from the court and place of iudgement which in his proper and naturall signification is vsed in the Scripture for to absolue acquitte from fault and guilte as 1 Wo to them that iustifie the wicked for a reward Isai 5 23. 2 The righteous shal bee iustified and the wicked condemned Deuter 25 1 3 Euerie man that hath a matter might come vnto me that I might iustifie him as the originall hath and is translated agreeable to the sense more plainely that I might doe him iustice 2 Sam. 15 4. 4 He that iustifieth the wicked and hee that condemneth the iust euen they both are abomination Note that the whole acte of Iustification is very liuely described in the scripture as a kind of iudiciall acte processe the person guilty is called to the barre is accused witnesses are brought he is condemned or acquitted c. to the Lord Prov. 17 15. So doth the same word keepe the same signification borowed from the court and iudicial proceedings in the Article of Iustification in the Scripture 1 Who shall laie any thing to the charge of Gods chosen It is God that Iustifieth who shall condemne c. Rom 8 33 34 heere yee see words and phrases borowed frō the court and Iudiciall proceedings to accuse to condemne to iustifie c. The equivalent termes of iustification or other words vsed to signifie iustification doth proue the same 1 Reconciliation is taken for Iustification Rom 5 9 10 2 Corinth 5 19 2 Remission of sinnes is taken for Iustification 1 Blessed is he whose wickednesse is forgiuen Psal 32 1 2 Iesus shall saue his people from their sinnes Matt. 1 21. 3 To giue knowledge of saluation vnto his people by the remission of their sinnes Luke 1 77 3 To cover sinnes is vsed for Iustification Blessed is he whose sinne is couered Psal 32 1 4 The holy Scripture doth describe Iustification by the words imputation reckoning accounting c as 1 God was in Christ and reconciled the world vnto himselfe not imputing their sinnes vnto them 2 Corinth 5 19. 2 Blessed is the man vnto whome the Lord imputeth not iniquitie Psal 32 2 3 As Dauid declareth the blessednesse of the man vnto whome God imputeth righteousnes without workes Rom 4 6 4 Abraham belieued God and it was counted to him for righteousnes Rom 4 ● 5 To him that worketh not but beleeueth in him that iustifieth the vngodly his faith is counted for righteousnesse Rom 4 5. 6 It is not written for him onely that it was imputed to him for righteousnes but also for vs to whom it shall be imputed for righteousnes which beleeue in him c. Rom. 4. 23 24 Contrariwise our aduersaries do reason 1 To iustifie by force of grammaticall composition of the word is all one as to make a man iust of one who before was not iust therefore to iustifie is to make iust Ans 1 Heere be foure termes in the Antecedent the signification of the word iustificatiō is taken grammatically in the consequent it is taken according to that signification which belongeth properly to Diuinitie 2. The true signification of the word is to be sought for in the proper science wherin the question is contained 2 By his knowledge shall my righteous seruant iustifie many Esai 53. 11 therefore hee doth iustifie them by an infused habite Ans It is a fallacie called ignoratio elenchi for the necessarie determination or limitation is omitted which followeth in the next words for he shal beare their iniquities which wordes declare that iustification is to bee vnderstoode heere by imputation for they are iustified by his bearing their sinnes as if themselues had borne and wyped away their owne sinnes 3 Holinesse shall preserue and iustifie the heart that is shall cause that the heart bee made iuste Ecclesiastic 1. 17. Answere 1 The booke is not Canonicall and therefore in a point of such moment his authoritie is not sufficient ● in the Greeke text the word iustification is not found 3 Neither if to iustifie in this place
miracl●s done about the Masse 〈◊〉 seldome and those most false too the Papists at this day are ashamed of the books wherein those miracles are reported 2 The comming of Antichrist shall be with all power and signes and lying wonders 2 Thess 2 9 as Paul prophecied of him 3. Miracles without the word of God are not sufficient to prooue articles of religion as wee reade Deut 13 1 2 3. 27 Luther doth confesse the deuill suggested arguments vnto him against the masse Therfore to impugne the masse is diuelish Ans 1 Luther describeth the conflict of Luther dimis●a priuata his conscience wherein Satan after his manner laying a truth for his ground endeuoured to build thereupon falsehood and desperation Euen as the deuill tempting Christ alleadged the holy Scripture which vndoubtedly is true But it doth not therefore follow that simply euery thing is a lye which Satan bringeth in his tentations For when hee obiecteth our sinnes against vs certainely he speaketh a truth 2 We oppose not against our Aduersaries either the authoritie of Luther or the tentation of Satan but the Word of God Now the testimonies of Scripture which ouerthrow the masse cannot be termed deuilish suggestions Let them then answere vnto them if they can 28 Our Aduersaries seek a shift to wind themselues out of the danger of the thunderbolts of the Epistle to the Hebrues say that Christs bodie alwaies remaineth one therfore though it be daily offered yet it is alwaies the same and but one only and so it doth not anie waiet whart the Epistle to the Hebrues Answ 1. That is not the question whether Christs bodie be one and the same But here is the controuersie whether that bodie which is one and the same be often to bee offered to God seeing the Apostle to Hebrewes witnesseth that that bodie was once onely offered and that the offering thereof may not be iterated There is then no connexion of the Antecedent consequent in this paralogisme 2 But neither do they offer the same bodie of Christ which was offered vpon the Croffe but an other bodie which within a moment of time before was breade if all bee true which they faine of Transsubstantiation But the true bodie of Christ was not breade Therefore neither doo they offer one and the same body of CHRIST An appendix of other abuses of the Masse The followers of Antichrist have transformed 1 Abuse priuate masse the Masse into a priuate action wherein there is no communion but the masse-maker onely receiueth the sacrament whilest others that be present onely looke on who are perswaded that such a masse benifitteth them neucrthelsse though they communicate not But wee reject this priuate masse fos these reasons Because the Lords supper by those priuate masses which neuer were instituted by Christ is changed into an action altogether diuerse and different from the first institution Christ gaue not onely a bare spectacle to his disciples in his first supper but distributed his bodie and bloud to them to be eaten and druncken Priuate masses therefore haue no agreement with the action of Christ That appellation of the Lords Supper vsed by the Apostles the breaking of breade which is nothing els but by a hebrue phrase the distribution of it sheweth that in the primitiue Church in the celebration of the supper there was a communicating that priuate masse was altogether vnknowen The same is meant by the wordes of Paul we are all partakers of the same bread 1 Cor 10 17 If the Corinthians were partakers then doubtles they were not bare beholders of some priuate masse That which Paul speaketh of the abuse of the Supper among the Corinthians euery man taketh his owne supper afore one is hungrie and an other is drunke 1 Corin. 11 21. May not vnfitly be applyed to the priuate masse for a certaine likenesse betwixt them For what more like to this abuse than is the priuate masse wherein the looker on hungreth the masse-maker hath his priuate banquet though he be not drunken vnlesse perhaps of the former dayes ryot Contrariwise our aduersaries do dispute 1 There is mention made of a priuate communion euen in the histories of the primitiue Church Ans 1 Priuate communion at that time was a thing much differing frō priuate masse now a dayes For from the beginning whilest persecution did still rage and the Christians were therfore inflamed with great zeale the whole Church did vse to celebrate the Supper euerie day But after persecution ceased the zeale of Christians was by little and little abated so that afterwards they did cōmunicate onely vpon the Lords day In the meane while they of the cleargy and the ministers of the Church kept the custome of the dayly communion And this Communion when they of the laitie were absent began to be called a priuate Communion and that which was celebrated on the Lords day was called a publicke Cōmunion It is therefore a frivolous argument altogether frō the purpose whilest our Aduersaries argue from the priuate receiuing of the Lords supper to the priuate sacrifices of the Masse so making foure termes 2 Those which are the lookers on in priuate masse do communicate spiritually Therfore they want not the fruite of the masse Ans 1. We speake of the sacrament and sacramental eating our Aduersaries alleadge spirituall eating There are therefore in this argument foure termes 2 That spirituall communion may bee by faith alone euen out of the masse and communion Therefore it is nothing to the masse 3 This is the nature of the ministerie that the benefits of God bee by it applyed vnto men But priuate masse is a part of the ministerie Therfore by it there is application Made to the standers by Ans 1 The minor proposition is fal●● It suffiseth not that a Preacher preach to himselfe without hauing any hearers so neither sufficeth it that the masse-maker alone communicate for others becavse our aduersaries cannot free their publicke masse much lesse their priuate masse from idolatrie and how shall idolatrie then be a part of the ministerie 2 Sacramentall application doth not consist in a bare spectacle but in the vse and fruition as it is not sufficient to saluation that an vnregenerate man bee a beholder of Baptisme vnlesse himselfe also bee baptized 4 Priests that doe masse are the mouth of the Church Therefore if the Priest communicate it is all one as if the whole Church had communicated Ans 1 The Antecedent hath no ground in the scripture 2 Neither doo the Papists themselues belieue this which they say otherwise the priuate cōmunion of the Priest would bee sufficient for thē that they should neuer haue neede of anie publicke communion 3 The mouth of the Church should bee an impure one when the Priest is polluted with adulterie whoredome and such other wickednesse The Priests in the Olde Testament did sacrifice for others the laitie being present so in priuate masse the
denie that there shall bee anie Purgatorie in the WORLD to come vnlesse they will fall into the errour of Origen 2 Christ speaketh of remission in the World to come but our Aduersaries vrge not remission but satisfaction in purgatorie There are therefore foure termes 3 The phrase of speach neither in this World nor in the world to come in Marke 3 29. are expressed thus hee shall neuer haue forgiuenesse 6 Thou shal● not come out thence till tho● hast payde the v●most farthing Matth 5 26. It must needes be therefore that there is a purgatorie Answ 1. Christ in these words doth not speake of the state of the World to come but admonisneth vs that in this present life we studie for peace and quietnesse and be reconciled to our Aduersaries least by our stubbornes wee drawe vpon vs greater euilles from the ciuill Magistrate 2 Were the place neuer so much to be expounded allegorically ye● herein it faileth that we who haue offended an eternall and infinite God must neede● bee subiect to eternall punishments where no place is graunted to temporall punishment 3 There would follow this absurdi●ie also that wee must agree with our Aduersarie that is with Sathan this ende allegories haue which are st●●tched beside the meaning of the Scripture 7 Wee went through fire and water but thou broughtest vs out into a wealthie place Psal 66. 12 therefore there is a Purgatorie Answere 1 Our Aduersaries alleadge this out of the olde Testament contrarie to their conscience whereas notwithstanding the Schoole-men teach that in the olde Testament there was as yet no Purgatorie 2 That the Psal●ne speaketh of temporall tribulations is prooved by the●e words next following I will go● into thy house with burnt offerings which cannot agree to soules departed 3. In the Psalme it is said Thou hast caused men to ride over our heads men not Devils as is imagined to bee in Purgatorie 4 A sweet interpretation forsooth we haue gone through water that is through fire of Purgatorie 8 I haue loosed thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water Zachar 9. 11 that is I haue freed them out of Purgatorie and consequently there is a purgatorie Ans 1 It is a metaphoricall speach wherein is described the deliuerance of all mankinde after they had fallen It is then a fallacy from a thing spoken in part and some respect to the same absolutely taken 2 There be contradictories in this and the argument going before if they be vnderstood of purgatorie In the former argument water is affirmed to be in purgatorie in this it is denied that there is anie water 3 If the lake without water bee vrged let our Aduersaries knowe that that place Luke 16. 23 24 is hell whence is no returning And so it doth not agree to purgatorie neither 9 He is like a purging fire and fullers sope and hee shall sit downe to try and fine the siluer he shall euen fine the sonnes of Leui c. Malach. 3 2 3. Answ 1. That they bee meere metaphores the word like doth shew It is then a fallacie vrging a misconstruction of the words 2 There is more in the consequent than in the Antecedent For it foloweth not he shall purge the sonnes of Leui Therefore that purgation can be none other but by the fire of purgatorie 3 The whole text doth speake of the first comming of Christ and of his ministerie whereby hee shall confounde and wipe away hypocrites as drosse and shall institute the true worship of God and shall consecrate spirituall priests and Leuites by his bloud It is nothing therefore to the purpose 10 Haue pittie vpon mee O my friends for the hand of God hath touched me Ioh 19. 21 Therefore there is a purgatorie Answ 1 Yet againe our Aduersaries remember not that the Schoole-men know of no purgatory in the olde Testament 2 Iob desireth his friendes that they would cease from rebuking an innocent man and rather pittie him than continue to reproue him 3 Iob was aliue and how could he bee in Purgatorie 11. C●●is●●●nt in his Spirit and preached to the Spiri●● 〈◊〉 which were in time past disobed●ent when once the long suffering of God abode in the daies of No● 1 Pe 〈…〉 19 20. therefore there is a Purgatorie Answere 1. Some of the Popish Doctors though impertinently too doe expound this place of Limbus Pa●●um and not of Purgatorie 2 These belong to the olde Testament in which the doctrine of the Papists admitteth of no Purgatorie 12 Iudas Ma●●habaeus sent to Ierusalem two thousand ●●achmes of ●●●ver for those that were slaine and the Author addeth withall It was an holy and good thought to pray for the dead that they might be delivered from sinne 2 Maccab. 12 43 45. Answer 1. The booke is Apocriphall and in the end of the booke the Author craveth pardon saying If I haue done well and as the storie required note he wrote as an Historian and not as one that delivered points of faith it is the thing that I desired but if I haue ●poken slenderly and barely it is that I could ● M●acchab 15 39. 2 Iudas had no comma●●dement o●●od to doe so therefore it is no pre●●●ption to vs. 3. Once againe wee must remember our Aduersaries why they would endevour to proue Purgatorie out of the old Testament seeing themselues denie that there was any Purgatorie in the olde Testament 13. Augustine in some places doth not dislike the mention of Purgatorie Ans 1. Augustine speaketh of it very staggeringly and doubtfully adioining to his dispuration of Purgatorie these wordes Perhaps it is true Deciuit Dei li. 21 cap. 24 26. 14 Because there be three sorts of men good evill and of a meane sort betwixt both it must needes bee that there bee three such conditions of soules after this life Ans 1. We are not now to deale with the morall and politick principles of Plato Aristotle Virgill c. but with principles farre different from them namely with the principles of Divinity revealed from heaven Seeing then that divers principles are confounded it is a fallacie involving many questions as one 2 The distinction of men in Divinity is farre different from this and is onely two-fold betwixt the Beleevers and the Infidels betwixt the Sheepe and the Goates betwixt those which gather with Christ and those which scatter betwixt those which are with Christ and those which are against him And therefore vnto these there are two places onely and no moe assigned after death in the Scriptures 15 Gregorie the Great learned Purgatorie from spirits that appeared vnto him and shewed the punishment of Purgatorie Answ Those spirits were not the sovles of men departed but they are the trickes and mockeries of Satan 2 The truth should be learned not of the dead but of the Word of God the lawe and the testimonie Isay 28. 20 3 Gregorie in this vncertaine kinde of arguments had a humane slippe seeing he ought to haue sticken rather
cannot be broken vpō any pre●ense of not being able to containe Answer 1 It cannot by any one word bee prooved that these widowes made vowes that they would not afterward marrie this place then is wrongfully wrested to Popish vowes of continencie 2 These widowes are not reproved for that they marrie but for that they secretly play the harlots and then seeke for marriage for a pretense to cover their naughtinesse 3 The first faith is not any vowe but the first faith that was given to Christ in Baptisme this is the first faith which they breake while they make the members of Christ the members of an harlot 4 And Paul biddeth these younger widowes marrie in the same place hee should then bid them breake their vowe if these widowes had made any vow which our Aduersaries will not willingly graunt 5 If this place be vnderstood of vowes it followeth against the Papists that they offend in laying vowes vpon thē which are not yet come to three●core yeeres of age for Paul would haue such chosen as be threescore yeeres old 4. The vowe which Priests make of chastitie is a free vow of their owne accord neither doth any man compell them to it Ans 1. This wee denie for those that will be admitted into holy Orders haue none other entrance but by vowing A man that is admitted if he marrie is removed from his calling and is punished in his body what a kinde of liberty is this It is therefore a loud lie 5 Paul 1 Timo. 4 1 3. doth not speake of the Pope that he holdeth the doctrine of Devils but he meaneth the Tatian● and Encr●ti●ae her●tikes Ans 1. Paul saith of them forbidding to marrie but the Pope forbiddeth to marrie therefore c. 2 It followeth not the Tatiani forbad marriage therefore the Pope which forbiddeth it too is not to bee reprooved There is the like iudgement of like things 3 Though the Pope doe not forbid mariage to all persons yet hee forbiddeth it and therefore hee is rightly condemned by Paul with the Tatiani and Encratitae CHAP. 22. Of the Popish Fastes IN this chapter the controuersie is not whether Christians ought to fast For none of our side doth denie that but the question is whether the popish fastes such as are in vse amongst our Aduersaries bee to be approued and necessarie to be obserued But because so many things meete together in the popish fastes which are repugnant to the holy Scripture let vs treate of them all seuerally 1 Error 1 And first of all our Aduersaries do place their fastes not in sobriety or temperance in meate and drink neither in a totall absta●ing from all meate and drinke for a certaine time which was vsed of the Auncients but in abstinence from flesh and white meates c. onely putting a difference betwixt meates And they presse that difference to be obserued with such seuerity that amongst them he is accounted to commit a more hainous crime who should taste flesh vpon the dayes forbidden than hee that should be taken in adulterie or other wickednesse And in some places especially of Italy and Spaine men are in greater danger for tasting flesh vpon the dayes inhibited than for committing capitall crimes Wee disallow and reiecte this obseruation and preposterous choise of meates for these reasons Because there is not any either commandement or example in the whole Scripture of the new Testament of this difference and choise of meates and therefore it is rightly reiected as a meere will-worship 1 Teach them to obserue all things that I haue commanded you Matt 28 20. 2 Of such like obseruations Christ sayth In vaine they worship mee teaching for doctrines mens precepts Matth 15 9. In the Newe Testament those Leuiticall differences of meates are taken away which after a sorte are brought in againe of our aduersaries 1 The things that God hath purified pollute thou not Act 10 15. 2 Whatsoeuer is set before you eate 1 Cor 10 27. 3 That which goeth into the mouth defileth not the man Matth 15 11. 4 Meate maketh vs not acceptable to God for neither if we eate haue we the more neither if we eate not haue we the lesse 1 Cor 8 8. 5 The Kingdome of God is not meate nor drinke but righteousnesse and peace and ioy in the Holy ghost Rom 14 17. 6 It is a good thing that the heart bee stablished with grace and not with meates which haue not profited them that haue beene occupied therein Heb 13 9. By this difference and choise of meates layed vpon the Church as if it were necessarie Christian libertie is impugned 1 In the latter times some shall departe from the faith and shall giue heede vnto spirits of errours and doctrines of deuills which speak lyes through hipocrisie and haue their consciences burned with an hote iron forbidding to marrie and commanding to abstaine frō meats which God hath created to be receiued with giuing thāks of thē that belieue know the truth for euery creature of God is good and nothing ought to bee refused if it be receiued with thankesgiuing 1. Tim 4 1 2. c. 2 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not let not him that eateth not iudge him that eateth Rom 14 3. 3 Let no man condemne you in meate or in drinke c. Colos 2 16. 4 If ye be deade with Christ from the ordinances of the World why as though yee liued in the World are ye burdened with traditions As touch not taste not handle not Which all perish with the vsing and are after the commandements doctrines of men which things haue indeed a shew of wisdome in voluntary religion and humblenes of minde and in not sparing the body neither haue they it in any estimation to satisfie the flesh Coloss 2 20 c. 5 Vnto the pure are all things pure Titus 1 15. 6 Whatsoeuer is soulde in the shambles eate yee and aske no question for conscience sake 1 Corinth 10 15. Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason 1 Obedience is due to the Church but the Chu●ch hath ordained such fasts Therefore c. Answer 1 In customes and indifferent ceremonies for orders sake obedience is to be performed to the Church but not in matters of necessity and articles of our beliefe vnlesse it be vpholden by the authority of the scripture whereof we haue spoken in the beginning of this booke Thither we referre the Reader 2 Neither is that rightly ascribed to the Church which is tyrannously obtruded to be obserued of Christians by superstitious men vnder the name of the Church 2 Hee that is weake eateth herbes Rom. 14. 2. Therefore the eating of flesh may rightly be forbidden for the weake ones sake Answ 1 Paul speaketh of those that be weake but the Church respecteth not the weake but onely their owne tyranny which they would establish by such superstitious precepts 2 Paul addeth presently vpon it let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not