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A34537 The interest of England in the matter of religion the first and second parts : unfolded in the solution of three questions / written by John Corbet. Corbet, John, 1620-1680. 1661 (1661) Wing C6256; ESTC R2461 85,526 278

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and Popery be set up with a bloody Inquisition Section XI And verily if there were a design to reconcile England to Rome let all means be used totally to quash the Puritanes or Presbyterians but if England will keep her self pure from Romish Abominations let her be a kinde Mother to these her Children For this Interest is one chief strength of the true Reformed Protestant Religion Let those well known Principles that strike to the heart of Popery be brought forth for evidence to wit the perfection of holy Scriptures in opposition to unwritten Traditions the Authority of Canonical Books in opposition to the encroachments of the Apocrypha the distinct knowledge of the Doctrine of Salvation according to every mans capacity in opposition to implicite Faith the reasonable serving of God according to the Word in opposition to blind devotion Spiritual Gospel Worship in opposition to a pompous train of Ceremonies the efficacious edifying use of religious exercises in opposition to the Popish Opus operatum or work done lastly the power of godliness in opposition to splendid Formality Whether the Prelatical or Presbyterian party be the more rooted and grounded in these Principles let knowing persons consider and give judgement It hath been observ'd not by vulgar ones but by States-men in former times that the Puritans stood between the Papists and the swaying part of the later Prelatists as a partition wall which was therefore to be broken down as was reported to make way for an attempted reconciliation In those times a Venetian Agent in England being intimately acquainted with the Popes Nuncio here resident had fathomed the depth of his Religious Negotiation touching this grand affair and in his account given to the State that sent him and since published to the world hath these notable observations That in the Realm of England are three Faction the Catholicks the Protestants and the Puritans Now saith he these three Factions in Religion though they all oppose one another yet the hatred of Protestants against Puritans is greater then against Catholicks and that of Catholicks is greater against Puritans then against Protestants and that of Puritans is greater against Catholicks then Protestants and thus both Catholicks and Protestants do easily combine together for the ruine and rooting out of Puritans What these Protestants are he thus declares they did not so engage themselves to those particular opinions meaning of the Reformation but they have since set themselves to reform the abuse of Religion by reducing themselves again to the old practise of their Forefathers The Puritans he describes in these words that being seasoned and initiated with the Doctrine of Calvin they judge the English Reformation imperfect and so refused submission to that form of Policy Such is the account of this Statesman both a Forreigner and a Papist and not to be supposed partial in favour of Puritans Now by Protestants he understands only those that adhered to the English Prelacy And so indeed that party have impropriated the name to themselves excluding the Presbyterians who in the mean while complain of palpable injury and give evident proof that they of right have as much Interest in that venerable name As touching the passages here quoted let them rest on the Relators credit and their own evidence whatever it be What our great Clergie intended I determine nothing but in equity leave it questionable How far they actually advanced this way be it collected out of their own Writings and other manifest Expressions It is no novelty for Papists to impose the name of Puritans on such as retain the old Protestant spirit of Antipathy to Rome which is a good argument to prove that in the party more peculiarly so called lies the heart and strength of aversness and enmity to the Heresies and Idolatries of the Roman Church Wherefore Those Bishops in the Church of England who were heartily averse from Popish Innovations were more benigne and favorable to Puritans and themselves accounted Puritan by the adverse party and upon the same account the Gentry of this Kingdom were so esteemed And let it be well observed that the more primitive times of Protestantism were more leaning to that which Romanizing spirits have called Puritanism Pardon the frequent use of this terme for I glory not in it but am constrained to use it for distinctions sake in bringing former things to remembrance Should not King Nobles and Commons remember their Darling Protestiantism and not abandon that sort of persons which contribute so much to the upholding of it It is confessed there have been some scandals given yet more taken But in this case let the saying of our blessed Lord be minded Not only woe to the man by whom the offence cometh but woe to the world because of offences It will not be well with England while we give way to passion and prejudices from offences taken and so run from one extream to another Where is the wise Counsellour Can we come to no temper Is there no healing for us Shall we sleep securely whilest the Seedsmen of the Envious One the Jesui's and other Romish Agents sow the Tares of Division in our Field not only to weaken and hinder but to choak and eat out our common Faith Yea blessed be God for our gracious Soveraign who makes it his care and study to allay distempers and compose differences by his just and gracious concessions already published concerning Ecclesiastical Affairs Section XII The Presbyterians are loaded with many calumnies as that they are against the Interest of Civil Magistracy especially of Monarchy that they are giddy factious schismatical domineering and what not Let not prejudice but reason sway mens minds in matters of such importance As concerning the Interest of Civil Magistracy that Presbyterians pluck from it the power in Causes Ecclesiastical that they erect Imperium in Imperio is a groundless and gross mistake Take the declared Judgment of the highest in that way according to their own words To the Political Magistrate is allowed a diatactick ordering regulating power about Ecclesiastical Matters in a Political way So that he warrantably reforms the Church when corrupted in Divine Worship Discipline or Government He convenes and convocates Synods and Councils made up of Ecclesiastical persons to advise and conclude determinatively according to the Word of God how the Church is to be reformed and refined from corruption and how to be guided and governed when reformed He ratifies and establishes within his Dominions the just and necessary Decrees of the Church in Synods and Councils by his Civil Sanction He judgeth and determineth definitively with a consequent political judgement or judgement of discretion concerning things judged and determined antecedently by the Church in reference to his own act He takes care politically that even Matters and Ordinances meerly and formally Ecclesiastical be duely managed by Ecclesiastical persons orderly called thereunto He hath a compulsive punitive or corrective power formally political in matters of Religion
beholds his undoubted Interest set forth to his hand and made plain before him which is no other then a well tempered and composed state of Affairs both Religious and Civil in all his Dominions by the abolishing of former differences and the reconciling of all reconcileable Parties and especially of those grand Parties which if made one do upon the matter carry the whole Nation And this His Majesties Wisdom hath already observed in that excellent Proclamation against vitious debauched and profane persons in these words That the Reconciliation and Union of hearts and affections can only with Gods blessing make us rejoyce in each other and keep our Enemies from rejoycing And this is the earnest expectation and hope of the Religious and well affected to publick Tranquility That the King our Supream Head and Governour whose gracious Disposition doth not suffer him to cleave to any divided part of his Subjects and to reject others that are alike Loyal will as a Common Father protect and cherish all those that are found capable and worthy and become our great Moderator by his Authority and Wisdom to lessen differencies and allay Animosities between dissenting brethren which already agree in the main Points of Religion What was it that brought home His Majesty with such impetuous affection impatience of delay even in those as well as others who must needs know that an abatement of their particular interest would follow What was it I say but a clear knowledge and foresight that all would run to rack and ruin unless the Publike State did settle speedily upon a national bottom which could not be any other then the ancient Royal Family Wherefore let our hearts reioyce that our Dread Soveraign proceeds to build his Designs not upon the interest of any one Party though numerous and powerfull but upon the common Tranquility and Security of the Nation So by the blessing of God he will continue a happy and mighty King over a happy and contented people who will esteem him their Wealth and Strength and Stability because they know that none but He under God can make them happy and that they can Center and Bottom on none but Him Section IV. Among the various dis-agreeing Parties within this Kingdom which seem to render it an indigested Masse of people two main ones appear above the rest of so large an interest that if by any means they might become no more twain but one they would take in and carry along the whole stream strength of the Nation And these two are the Episcopal and Presbyterian Parties each of them highly laying claim to the Protestant Religion And undoubtedly whilest these two remain divided the Kingdom of England and the Protestant Religion is divided against it self This dis-union is removed either by the Abolition of one Party or by the Coalition of both into one The former if supposed possible cannot be accomplished but by violent and perillous ways and means The latter is brought to pass by Accommodation or mutual yielding Moreover there is a third way imaginable Toleration indulged to the weaker side In which of these waies lies the true Interest of the King and Kingdom is the great Case of the time and the Subject of this Discourse which presumes not to informe his Majesty but in subordination unto his declared moderation and condescention endeavours by shewing things as they are to convince and perswade Interessed persons that the Pacification begun for this Interim may be intire and perfect and fully setled for perpetual unity The whole matter rests upon three main Enquiries I Qu. Whether in Justice or reason of State the Presbyterian Party should be Rejected and Depressed or Protected and Incouraged II Qu. Whether the Presbyterian Party may be Protected and Incouraged and the Episcopal not Deserted nor Dis-obliged III Q. Whether the Upholding of both Parties by a just and equal accommodation be not in it self more desirable and more agreeable to the State of England than the absolute Exalting of the one Party and the total Subversion of the other And here let none prejudge the matter by reason of the name Presbyterian which with some is rendred odious but let the Character hereafter given be heedfully observed Let none take offence at the name of Prelate or Prelatist which is not used for envy but for distinctions sake Moreover the reasons why the first Inquiry is propounded on the Presbyterians behalf are because Episcopacy now stands on the rising ground and seems to have no need of an Advocate Also the Presbyterians aim not at an ample splendid and potent State but at Liberty and Security in their lower Orbe and chiefly because they are by some mis-represented and by many mis-apprehended and pre-condemned as inconsistent with publick tranquility in Church or State Section V. As concerning their true Character the Notation of the name whereby they are called is both too shallow and too narrow for it The word Presbyterian hath not sufficient depth to go to the root of the matter nor breadth sufficient to comprehend this sort of men That Form of Ecclesiastical Government by Parochial and Classical Presbyteries Provincial and National Assemblies is remote enough from their main Cause and those firm bonds that make them eternally one in respect whereof many that approve a regulated Episcopacy will be found of their number For there is a vast difference between the ancient Episcopacy and the height of Prelacy or Hierarchy of the latter times This later only is the true opposite of Presbytery And so they may not abhor to be named in several respects both Presbyterian and Episcopal yet not Prelatical Some of them commend and I think most of them here in England allow in order to peace Episcopum Praesilem non Principem Wherefore as concerning their main and rooted principles they admire and magnifie the holy Scriptures and take them for the absolute perfect Rule of Faith and Life without the supplement of Ecclesiastical Tradition yet they deny not due respect and reverence to venerable Antiquity They assert the study and knowledge of the Scriptures to be the duty and priviledge of all Christians that according to their several capacities being skilfull in the word of Righteousness they may discern between good and evill and being filled with all goodness may be able to exhort and admonish one another Yet they acknowledge the necessity of a standing Gospel Ministery and receive the directive authority of the Church not with implicite Faith but the Judgement of discretion They hold the teaching of the Spirit necessary to the saving knowledge of Christ Yet they do not hold that the Spirit bringeth new Revelations but that he opens the eyes of the Understanding to discern what is of old revealed in the written Word They exalt divine Ordinances but debase humane Inventions in Gods Worship particularly Ceremonies properly Religious and of Instituted Mystical signification Yet they allow the natural expressions of Reverence and Devotion as
kneeling and lifting up of the hands and eyes in prayer as also those meer Circumstances of Decency and Order the omission whereof would make the service of God either undecent or less decent As they worship God in the spirit according to the simplicity of Gospel Institutions so they rejoyce in Christ Jesus having no confidence in a legal Righteousness but desire to be found in him who is made unto us Righteousness by gracious Imputation Yet withall they affirm constantly that good works of piety towards God and of Justice and Charity towards men are necessary to salvation Their Doctrine bears full conformity with that of the Reformed Churches held forth in their publiek Confessions and particularly with that of the Church of England in the nine and thirty Articles only one or two passages peradventure excepted so far as they may import the asserting of Prelacy and humane Mysticall Ceremonies They insist much on the necessity of Regeneration and therein lay the groundwork for the practise of godliness They press upon themselves and others the severe exercise not of a Popish outside formall but a spirituall and reall mortification and self-denial according to the power of Christianity They are strict observers of the Lords day and constant in Family prayer They abstain from oaths yea petty oaths and the irreverent usage of Gods name in common discourse and in a word they are sober just and circumspect in their whole behaviour Such is the temper and constitution of this party which in its full latitude lies in the middle between those that affect a Ceremoniall Worship and the height of Hierarchical Government on the one hand and those that reject an ordained Ministery and setled Church order and regular Unity on the other hand Section VI. Within these extensive limits the Presbyterian party contains several thousands of learned godly orthodox Ministers being diligent and profitable Preachers of the Word and exemplary in their Conversation among whom there are not a few that excell in Polemical and Practical Divinity also of the judicious sober serious part of the people in whose affections his Majesty is most concerned they are not the lesser number By means of a practical Ministery this way like the Leaven in the Gospel parable hath spread and seasoned the more considerate and teachable sort in all parts of the Kingdom and especially in the more civilized places as Cities and Towns For indeed such as are of this minde and this way do make Religion their business and imitate the Bereans commended nobleness resolving not to take up Religion upon trust but to search the Scriptures daily whether those things which they hear are so that they may judiciously embrace the truth Adde hereunto that one of his Majesties Kingdoms is Presbyterian Certainly such a people may claim a portion in their Gracious Soveraign and surely he doth not he will not in any wise refuse them Section VII The men of this perswasion are not lukewarm but true Zealots Nevertheless they have no Fellowship with the spirit of Enthusiastical and Anabaptistical Fancy and Frenzy They are no Fanaticks although they begin to be by some abused under that name but they are persons of known learning prudence piety and gravity in great numbers besides of inferiour rank a vaste multitude of knowing serious honest people None of all which are led blindfold by Tradition or Implicite Faith or do run headlong into Fanatick Delusions but they give up themselves to the sole direction and authority of the holy Scriptures Wherefore impartial reason will conclude that they chose this way as with sincerity of affection so with gravity of Judgement and that the things themselves even the more disputable part thereof as that against the Hierarchy and Ceremonies as such as may frequently prevail with good and wise men in as much as they appear to those that have embraced them to have the Impress of Divine Authority and the Character of Evangelical Purity Section VIII For the reasons afore-going the infringement of due Liberty in these matters would perpetuate most unhappy Controversies in the Church from Age to Age. Let the former times come in and give Evidence As touching Ceremonies the Contest began early even in King Edward's Reign between Hooper and other Bishops The Consecration of Hooper Elect Bishop of Glocester being stayed because he refused to wear certain Garments used by Popish Bishops he obtained Letters from the King and from the Earl of Warwick to the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury and others that he might not be burthened with certain Rites and Ceremonies and an Oath commonly used in the Consecration of Bishops which were offensive to his Conscience Nevertheless he found but harsh dealing from his Fellow Bishops whereof some were afterwards his Fellow Martyrs and Ridley among others who afterwards thus wrote unto him when they were both Prisoners for the Gospel However in time past in certain Circumstances and By-matters of Religion your wisdom and my simplicity I grant hath a little jarred each of us following the abundance of his own sence and judgement Now be assured that even with my whole heart in the Bowels of Christ I love you in the truth and for the truths sake which abideth in us Some godly Martyrs in Queen Maries days disliked the Ceremonies and none of them died in the defence of Ceremonies Liturgie and Prelacy in opposition to all other Ecclesiasticall Government and Order It was the Protestant Verity which they witnessed and sealed in blood in opposition to Popery especially the prodigious opinion of Transubstantiation and the abomination of the Romish Mass or Sacrifice In the same bloody dayes certain English Protestants being fled for refuge into Germany and setled in Frankford were divided among themselves about the Service-book even with scandalous breach of Charity and in the issue the Congregation was sadly broken and dissipated The Gospel returning under Queen Elizabeth these differnces were revived and held up by Disputes Writings and Addresses to severall Parliaments and there were great thoughts of heart for these Divisions Nevertheless the differences remain uncompounded in process of time severe Canons were framed and with much rigour imposed and so continued Ministers were distinguished into Conformists and Non-Conformists and a multitude of painfull Preachers suffered deprivation for Non-Conformity Be it here observed that the persons known by the name of Non-Conformists were not Separatists but earnestly opposed the separation of the Brownists and held Communion with the Church in publick worship upon this pacifick principle that we may not separate from a true Church blemished with some corruptions and errors while we are not compelled to subscribe to those errors nor in our own practice to submit to those Corruptions Howbe it the greatest part of the Ministers named Puritans yieded Conformity to those controverted Rites and Formes that were by Law or Ganons established as to things burdensom not desirable in their nature supposed indifferent but in their use many ways