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etc._n etc._n where_o also_o will_v thou_o place_v they_o because_o they_o shall_v lack_v life_n see_v they_o have_v not_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n nor_o drink_v his_o blood_n also_o de_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la meritis_fw-la &_o remissione_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 20._o a_o place_n cite_v by_o bristol_n but_o mingle_v with_o many_o intersection_n of_o his_o own_o as_o his_o manner_n be_v after_o augustine_n have_v rehearse_v the_o text_n joan._n 6._o except_o you_o eat_v &c_n &c_n he_o add_v quid_fw-la ultrà _fw-la querimus_fw-la etc._n etc._n what_o seek_v we_o further_o what_o can_v they_o answer_v to_o this_o except_o stubbornness_n do_v stretch_v their_o strive_a sinew_n against_o the_o constancy_n of_o the_o manifest_a truth_n or_o dare_v any_o man_n say_v this_o also_o that_o this_o sentence_n pertain_v not_o to_o infant_n and_o that_o they_o may_v without_o the_o participation_n of_o this_o body_n and_o blood_n have_v life_n in_o they_o &_o c_o likewise_o cap._n 24._o he_o say_v optimè_fw-la punici_fw-la etc._n etc._n best_a of_o all_o the_o christian_n of_o africa_n do_v call_v baptism_n itself_o nothing_o else_o but_o health_n and_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n nothing_o else_o but_o life_n whence_o but_o of_o a_o ancient_a as_o i_o think_v and_o apostolic_a tradition_n by_o which_o they_o hold_v it_o ingraft_v unto_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n that_o without_o baptism_n and_o participation_n of_o the_o lord_n table_n no_o man_n at_o all_o can_v come_v not_o only_o not_o to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n but_o neither_o to_o health_n &_o life_n everlasting_a for_o this_o also_o the_o scripture_n testify_v according_a to_o those_o thing_n which_o we_o have_v say_v before_o for_o what_o other_o thing_n do_v they_o hold_v which_o call_v baptism_n by_o the_o name_n of_o health_n but_o that_o which_o be_v say_v he_o have_v save_v we_o by_o the_o laver_v of_o regeneration_n and_o that_o which_o peter_n say_v so_o also_o do_v 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and_o repent_v by_o other_o here_o be_v one_o error_n of_o augustine_n defend_v by_o a_o other_o of_o he_o for_o infant_n be_v not_o baptize_v for_o the_o faith_n of_o other_o man_n but_o because_o they_o be_v comprehend_v within_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n to_o who_o baptism_n be_v no_o more_o to_o be_v deny_v than_o circumcision_n be_v to_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o jew_n the_o prophet_n say_v justus_n etc._n etc._n the_o righteous_a man_n shall_v live_v by_o his_o own_o faith_n it_o be_v not_o the_o faith_n of_o other_o man_n that_o can_v procure_v life_n unto_o us._n neither_o be_v faith_n require_v of_o infant_n before_o they_o can_v hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o be_v the_o only_a ordinary_a mean_n by_o which_o faith_n come_v but_o infant_n say_v bristol_n be_v in_o no_o mortal_a sin_n be_v new_o baptize_v and_o therefore_o they_o need_v no_o examination_n for_o fear_n lest_o they_o shall_v come_v unworthy_o saint_n augustine_n confess_v that_o he_o be_v in_o mortal_a sin_n even_o in_o his_o infancy_n imbecillitas_fw-la membrorum_fw-la infantium_fw-la innocens_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-fr animus_n infantium_fw-la the_o weakness_n of_o the_o member_n of_o infant_n be_v innocent_a not_o the_o mind_n of_o infant_n afterward_o he_o bring_v example_n of_o envy_n even_o in_o a_o infant_n and_o at_o last_o conclude_v quod_fw-la si_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o if_o it_o be_v so_o that_o i_o be_v conceyve_v in_o iniquity_n and_o that_o in_o sin_n my_o mother_n in_o her_o womb_n nourish_v i_o where_o i_o beseech_v thou_o my_o god_n when_o lord_n be_v i_o thy_o servant_n where_o or_o when_o be_v i_o innocent_a by_o this_o you_o see_v there_o be_v no_o short_a time_n of_o man_n life_n free_a from_o sin_n neither_o may_v you_o cavil_v that_o augustine_n be_v not_o baptize_v in_o his_o infancy_n see_v he_o speak_v general_o
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about_o those_o mat_n 〈…〉_o s_o that_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n bristol_n 〈…〉_o nswer_v first_o their_o doubt_n be_v not_o of_o the_o tradition_n 〈…〉_o t_o of_o circumstance_n of_o person_n and_o other_o matter_n con_v 〈…〉_o ning_a the_o tradition_n which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o i_o show_v by_o 〈…〉_o ample_n and_o testimony_n out_o of_o their_o writing_n purg._n 〈…〉_o 7._o ar._n 39_o pur._n 317._o the_o contradiction_n suppose_v to_o be_v in_o chrysostome_n where_o he_o say_v first_o that_o small_a help_n can_v be_v procure_v for_o the_o dead_a afterward_o he_o say_v the_o apostle_n know_v that_o much_o commodity_n come_v to_o the_o dead_a by_o pray_v â—or_a they_o bristol_n answer_v be_v none_o at_o all_o for_o in_o 〈…〉_o e_o first_o place_n he_o speak_v of_o scotfree_a man_n which_o do_v not_o pro_fw-la 〈…〉_o e_o any_o comfort_n to_o their_o soul_n by_o their_o riches_n that_o their_o friend_n 〈…〉_o n_z procure_v but_o little_a in_o respect_n of_o that_o they_o 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i_o omit_v but_o where_o he_o return_v to_o admonish_v i_o his_o fellow_n fulke_n as_o he_o call_v i_o to_o look_v better_o to_o my_o logic_n concern_v my_o argument_n ab_fw-la authoritate_fw-la negative_a i_o do_v he_o to_o wit_n that_o god_n i_o thank_v i_o be_o not_o to_o learn_v logic_n nor_o the_o force_n of_o a_o argument_n of_o authority_n negative_o of_o he_o the_o argument_n that_o anger_v he_o be_v this_o all_o true_a doctrine_n be_v teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n purgatory_n be_v not_o teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n therefore_o purgatory_n be_v no_o true_a doctrine_n here_o be_v two_o fault_n say_v bristol_n one_o because_o the_o mayor_n be_v false_a the_o other_o suppose_v the_o mayor_n be_v true_a yet_o can_v the_o argument_n be_v oppose_v to_o our_o argument_n of_o tradition_n counsel_n father_n i_o will_v first_o prove_v the_o mayor_n that_o whereby_o the_o man_n of_o god_n may_v be_v make_v perfect_a furnish_v to_o all_o good_a work_n be_v teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n 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