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A85151 A true testimony against the Popes wayes, &c. In a return to that agreement of 42. of those that call themselves ministers of Christ (but are proved to be wrongers of men and of Christ) in the county of Worcester, and some adjacent parts, who subscribe their agreement and catechisme with the names and the places where they are pastors, teachers, and rectors, &c. as they say: or as followeth: Richard Baxter teacher of the church at Kiderminster. John Boraston pastor of Ribsford and Bewdley. Richard Eades pastor of Beckford Glocestershire. ... Joh: Dedicote preacher at Abbotesley. R. F. (Richard Farnworth), d. 1666. 1656 (1656) Wing F509; Thomason E870_6; ESTC R202116 86,932 79

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If you walk in that wrong way wherein you miscarrie and wrong God and Men growing worse and running further therein do not the Papists the same and are not you and they therein one and so walk with them in that way whose actions proceed from one ground and Spirit though in some words and formalities you differ but in the evill and wronging God and Men c. are Joyned together and therefore may stop your mouths of condemning others for that which you are found guilty of your words as well as your actions beare witnesse against you and your bitternesse and persecuting the servants of Jesus as your Prisons and barbarous or cruel usage at Evesham and other places may witnesse for the truth and against your deceit and wrong done to men and God as you say in your agreement therefore you and the Papists goes on in one nature together the Papists you say bring all ●he people to confesse their most secret sins unto their Priests and do not you labour to bring the people to do so unto you the Parish Masters idle Shepherds and hireling Preists and then are not you and the Papists therein both one in nature and property Ez●k 3● ●● ● though differing a little in words and colourable clauses And where you tell of creeping into houses who more then you creeps into the Popes houses which you with and from them call Churches but let me aske you that run so out of them from whence you sprung wherein do you and they differ in worships and practise therein Whether in manner or matter if in manner onely you differ and not in matter then do you not agree in the maine if so then are not you and the Papists in religion and worships as well as nature and property one though differing in some words formalities c. but both in the vaine traditions and observing your fancies and braine imaginations as the Serpents seed did in all ages You resolve in your wills to set on a worke in your imaginations promising salvation upon the performance and damnation upon the refusall page 30. and so would merit Heaven by your actings in the nature from whence ariseth negligence and miscarriages page 3 4. and wrong to men and to Christ page 19. and do not the Papists hold the same thinking to merit Heaven by their own actings in that nature and spirit of deceipt which guides them to neglect the work of God and also into miscarriages and to wrong men and God like you and persecuters and seed of evill doers If so then are not you and the Papists one therein and why do you crie out against that so much in others your selves being guilty of and found in the same and doing their work onely differing here and there in words formalities some colourable glosses c. You say page 23. you have all need to joyne heart and hand to help one another safe to heaven and all little enough you say I answer yea and too little too for in that nature in will not be done which teacheth you to wrong Christ and Men for if in that nature you could do it why might not the Papist in the like nature with you do the same and are not you therein with the Papists one or if any get out of your ignorance and come from under the wrong and out of the miscarriages in obedience to the teachings of Christ the true teacher and Saviour whom you wrong that they get into Heaven before you or sit with Christ Jesus in heavenly places whilst their bodys are on the earth as the Saints at Ephesus did whil'st their bodys were there and such as are saved by grace having their souls purified in obeying the truth through the Spirit where selfe is denyed are not you through ignorance of the way that leads out of error heresie miscarriages Popery and darknesse ready to call such hereticks as are come out of that and into the glorious light and injoyments of the sons of God to worship the Father in Spirit I say are you not ready to call such hereticks who are come out of it viz the darknesse E●he 1.6 Co. 1.13 1 Pet. 1.22.23 24. Reve. 21.3.23.24 Joh. 4.23.24 2 Cor. 3.16.17 Gal. 4.4 5 6 7.8 1 Cor. 4.6.7 and heresie which you live in and would rank them with the Papists under that denomination to cover and shelter your selves thinking to cast that upon them which they are freed from and you and the Papists are found in union with and guilty of being both of you out of the right way and in the wrong that are neglecters of the work of God and wronging God and men and living in the miscarriages and so in the heresies error and disobedience to the truth following your own Spirits and obeying the imagined fancy formed up in your own wills and living in the vaine traditions and customes of the Heathen as you and they do but your mist dazels the eye of none but the willfull blind and such as are in sleepy security and in sin unturned to God who are already deceived and the eye covered or blinded by which they should see both delusion and heresie in which you and they therein agree who grow worse and run yet further from God c. For the Papists believe they shall never be free from sin here in this life and therein they are reprobate concerning the true Gospel soul-saving and purifying faith and you believe the same viz that you shall never be freed from sin here in this life and then must not you with the Papists have a purgatory seeing that nothing which is uncleane shall in any wise enter into the holy City Rev. 21.27 and the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God as it is said and by the Ambassadour of Christ declared 1 Cor. 6.9 10. and are not you reprobate concerning the true Gospel Gal. 5.20 21. soul-saving and purifying faith who denieth the property of it in denying purity of heart and abiding in darknesse and the nature opposite to the true light believing or saying you believe you cannot or shall not be free from sin here in this life and therefore are not you and the Papists both one and your faith and theirs in nature and property being dead and corrupt therein agreeth together but I deny the Papists and you the wrongers of Christ and Men and that faith which doth not purifie the heart witnesseth that faith and power which doth Act. 15.89 H●b 2.10.11 and as the Saints did as the Scripture witnesseth and God which searcheth the hearts beareth me witnesse as he did them who giveth the holy Ghost that purifieth the heart by faith and we know that we were not redeemed with corruptible things as silver and gold from that vaine conversation which had been received by tradition from your fore Fathers c. Who received Silver and Gold and did not the work which
they and you pretended who took and taketh the dishonest gaine but we were redeemed by the precious blood of Christ as a lambe without blemish 1 Pet. 1.18.19 20 21 22 23. The Papists they say they believe in one God three persons in your Agreement in the exposition of the Creed you say the same but neither you nor the Papists believe in that God that freeth from sin without your tradition vaine imagination who say you are in miscariages growing worse and running yet further from Him but by what part of Scripture the Papists and you prove your three persons I know not for the Scripture speaketh not so but saith there is three witnesses which three agree in one are one Joh. 14.20 1 John 5.7.8 Joh. 7.21.22.23 he that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son 2 Joh. 9. and the holy Ghost remaineth within Joh. 14.15 16 17. 1 Joh. 3.24 which you have shewed your ignorance of and both of that doctrine union and faith that in the same power doth stand where the flattering and entising words of mans wisdom like yours and the Papists are judged and condemned Statute 2. Mariae 1. Chap. 3. as well as shut out by that which doth the world comprehend The Papists they call Steeple-houses Churches and there sell their inventions and brain-imaginations for their own ends deceiving soules with their traditions and vaine observations Stat of 2. 3. Edw 6. Chap. 1. who wrong them and Christ himselfe and do not you the same and such as are in ignorance of the foundamentals of true religion being ignorant of and out of the way of salvation in the vaine traditions familiar and personall instructions arising out of the miscarrying nature It seemes that which is call●d Communion or the Sacraments so called were commonly called the Masse as appeares by the Stat 2. 3. Edw. 6. Chap. 1. and are in sin and sleepy security as you and your hearers as you say are therefore in that are not you and the Papists both one The Papists they sprinkle their Infants and holds that infants baptisme as they call it came in the roome of Circumcision and you hold the same therefore in that as well as persecution and other things are not you and the Papists both one but what Scripture proofe without your imaginations have you for the same and seeing that in the order of Circumcision they did but circumcise the male Children onely and not the female and if Infants baptisme as you and the Papists affirme came into the roome why do you breake that order c. in baptising not the males onely as you call it but the femnles also what trick hath the Pope taught you and them to make a cover for that And do not the Papists worship that which they have received by tradition from their fore-Fathers and also set up an image according to their fansie and imaginary worship in their own wills and the miscarrying nature contrary to God binding all they can to submit to their fansies and worship their Image and vaine conceivings Banbury Bristoll Exetor Maidstone Colchester Bedford c and those that cannot for conscience sake towards God submit with them to the same but oppose their deceipt and false worship those they persecute and imprisson and cause them to suffer affliction distresse and necessity c. and did not you so at Kedderminster Worcester and Evesham as well as they in your nature do at Northampton Oxford and Cambridge and other places who do and have done the same Therefore in that are not you and the Papists both one or guided by one Spirit and in union together with the deceipt c and would cast it upon the innocent whom you persecute that denieth the Popes wayes and your false worships and stands a witnesse against all deceipt in Pope and Papists and all the false worshippers who are jarring and jangling about words and formalities ioyneth together to oppose and persecute the life and power of truth but it is in vaine for you to strive against the streame or hard for you to kick against the prickes Statute 1. Mary 1 Cap. 3. without getting an inward wound or mayme if not broken and dasht to peeces by so doing The Papists have sacraments and sacramentalls as they and you call them which there is no Scripture for and you have the same then wherein do you and they therein differ except in the manner and agree in the matter and so therein become one and yet you cry out of those who ranking you with the Papists deny both you and them and your will worships and the deceipt and miscarriages which you and all such live in who are wrongers of God and Men and worships their fancies formed up in the dark minde and the imaginations of their own braine and so are without Scripture proofe and warrant from God for the same as you and they therein are John Stelham Preacher of the Gospel at Edenborough as he saith in Scotland P. E. c. Doth not the Papists hold that the bread which they receive at a Sacrament so called that though it be bread before in the nature substance yet notwithstanding would they not have it to be Spirit and Life in the institution at the receiveing after their consecration and if they do so there is of those that call themselves Preachers of the Gospel at Edenborough in Scotland which Church you speake of that holds the same as I can produce under their hands and if you own it with them do you not go against the oath of Abjuration and also agree and joyne with the Papists therein and though you may differ in manner yet owning that is there not an agreeing in the matter and if so then do not you and the Papists agree therein and are you not one in the maine and yet are not ashamed some of your generation as well as you to accuse others for Papists and Jesuits that deny all their wayes and false worships in manner and matter and denies their deceipt and yours and stands to witnesse against the same turning that upon you and them againe that you may see your casting the name of Papists and Jesuits upon them that denies both their deceipts and yours neither proveth them to be as you say they are nor cleares your selves from the old reliques of Popery and if you take the oath to renounce it all and yet live in it are you not forsworne and perjured persons or any that do so consider well of it And what difference is there betwixt the call of the Papists Priests Mimisters Rectors and Curates c. to the Ministry which they live in and the call of you the Priests Ministers Pastors Teachers and Rectors as you call your selves to the Ministry which you live in Are not they called of men And is not your calling the same For had not they