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A16708 Sainct Austines religion collected from his owne writinges & from the confessio[n]s of the learned Protestants, whereby is sufficiently proued and made knowen the like answearable doctrine of the other more auncient fathers of the primitiue church / written by Iohn Brereley. Anderton, James, fl. 1624.; Anderton, Lawrence. 1620 (1620) STC 3608; ESTC S2531 164,549 408

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