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A93387 Of the al-svfficient external proposer of matters of faith. Devided into tvvo bookes In the first. Is proved, that the true church of God, is the al-sufficient external proposer of matters of faith. In the second. Is shewed the manifold uncertanities of Protestants concerning the scripture: and how scripture is, or is not, an entire rule of faith. By C. R. doctor of diuinitie. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1653 (1653) Wing S4156; ESTC R228293 181,733 514

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and_o heluidius_fw-la be_v condemn_v as_o heretic_n for_o deny_v it_o as_o be_v evident_a out_o of_o s._n ambrose_n epist_n 7._o s._n epiphanius_n haeresi_fw-la 78._o s._n hierom._n l._n contra_fw-la heluidium_fw-la s._n austin_n haeresi_fw-la 84._o gennadius_n l._n de_fw-la ecclesiast_fw-la dogmat_fw-la c._n 68_o and_o do_v any_o now_o know_v what_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n or_o what_o be_v true_a heresy_n better_a than_o all_o these_o father_n nay_o then_o all_o the_o church_n of_o their_o time_n which_o condemn_v partly_o tacit_o partly_o open_o the_o aforesaid_a heretic_n s._n basil_n homil_n de_fw-fr humana_fw-la generatione_n christi_fw-la say_v the_o ear_n of_o those_o who_o love_n christ_n can_v suffer_v to_o here_o that_o the_o mother_n of_o god_n at_o any_o time_n leave_v to_o be_v a_o virgin_n s._n epiphanius_n loc_fw-la cit_fw-la call_v it_o
blasphemous_a and_o protestant_n confess_v by_o protestant_n diverse_a protestant_n confess_v this_o to_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n for_o the_o bohemian_a confession_n profess_v to_o believe_v art_n 17._o that_o our_o lady_n be_v a_o virgin_n before_o and_o after_o her_o childbirth_n protestant_n in_o colloq_fw-la ratisb_n sess_v 10._o p._n 318._o who_o deny_v it_o her_o perpetual_a virginity_n be_v a_o heretik_a zuinglius_fw-la serm_n de_fw-fr b._n virgin_n maria_n to_o 1._o fol._n 350._o i_o believe_v with_o firm_a and_o undoubted_a mind_n the_o pure_a chaste_a and_o unspotted_a virgin_n bring_v forth_o christ_n yet_o so_o as_o without_o any_o spot_n of_o chastity_n she_o remain_v a_o chaste_a virgin_n for_o ever_o luther_n l._n de_fw-la votis_fw-la to_o 2._o fol._n 272._o if_o any_o deny_v marry_o be_fw-mi à_fw-fr virgin_n he_o be_v damn_v beza_n in_o his_o confession_n of_o faith_n c._n 3._o sec_fw-la 3._o profess_v that_o she_o be_v a_o virgin_n after_o her_o childbirth_n 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feild_n l_o 4._o do_v eccles_n p._n 240._o rivet_v contro_n tract_n 1._o 1._o sec_fw-la 20._o junius_n contro_n 1._o l._n 4._o c._n 9_o to_o this_o point_n of_o faith_n i_o add_v the_o question_n of_o schism_n which_o as_o plessie_n cite_v supra_fw-la c._n 5._o sec_fw-la 2._o confess_v can_v be_v decide_v by_o scripture_n because_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o fact_n of_o which_o the_o scripture_n speak_v not_o and_o yet_o schism_n be_v as_o necessary_a to_o be_v decide_v as_o heresy_n because_o that_o be_v as_o well_o damnable_a as_o this_o 4._o as_o for_o the_o father_n they_o so_o plain_o and_o direct_o say_v there_o be_v tradition_n not_o write_v as_o for_o brevity_n sake_n i_o will_v omit_v their_o word_n and_o relate_v the_o confession_n of_o protestant_n whitaker_n contro_fw-la 1._o q._n 6._o c._n ult._n p._n 415._o i_o confess_v the_o father_n speak_v much_o of_o tradition_n the_o father_n be_v sometime_o deceive_v we_o grant_v that_o the_o father_n defend_v tradition_n ibid._n c._n 12._o i_o grant_v that_o ireneus_fw-la appeal_v from_o scripture_n to_o apostolical_a tradition_n perkins_n so_o perkins_n it_o be_v clear_a he_o be_v deceive_v with_o tradition_n p._n 389._o eusebius_n his_o testimony_n for_o tradition_n be_v plain_a enough_o but_o no_o way_n to_o be_v admit_v ibid._n it_o be_v clear_a that_o basil_n be_v too_o much_o addict_v to_o tradition_n ibid._n damascen_n be_v too_o much_o give_v to_o tradition_n p._n 391._o chrysostomus_n say_v for_o tradition_n be_v 315_o morton_n appeal_n p._n 315_o unaduised_a and_o unworthy_a of_o so_o great_a a_o father_n i_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v this_o his_o tradition_n ibid._n epiphanius_n be_v too_o much_o delight_v with_o tradition_n he_o allow_v indeed_o apostolical_a 20._o seultettom_n 2._o c._n 19_o 20._o tradition_n p._n 392._o let_v we_o not_o regard_n what_o cyprian_n say_v of_o tradition_n p._n 393._o all_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v which_o ambrose_n say_v of_o tradition_n ibid._n ether_n austin_n speak_v of_o unnecessary_a tradition_n or_o he_o contradict_v himself_o p._n 394._o innocentius_n primus_fw-la err_v in_o his_o tradition_n thus_o he_o kemnitius_n 1._o part_n exam._n tit_n de_fw-fr traditionibus_fw-la p._n 140._o excellent_a man_n in_o the_o church_n beside_o scripture_n give_v too_o much_o to_o tradition_n p._n 141._o the_o admire_v of_o tradition_n not_o write_v draw_v many_o good_a and_o excellent_a man_n in_o the_o church_n from_o the_o wholesome_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o be_v do_v in_o the_o first_o and_o best_a time_n of_o the_o church_n soon_o after_o the_o apostle_n tradition_n beg_v a_o to_o be_v thrust_v upon_o the_o church_n this_o opinion_n remain_v and_o stick_v in_o their_o successor_n as_o in_o clement_n p._n 142._o even_o good_a man_n in_o the_o church_n be_v deceive_v by_o too_o great_a esteem_n of_o not-written_a tradition_n p._n 143._o admiration_n of_o not-written_a tradition_n deceive_v good_a and_o great_a man_n in_o the_o church_n 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