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A61532 The Council of Trent examin'd and disprov'd by Catholick tradition in the main points in controversie between us and the Church of Rome with a particular account of the times and occasions of introducing them : Part 1 : to which a preface is prefixed concerning the true sense of the Council of Trent and the notion of transubstantiation. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1688 (1688) Wing S5569; ESTC R4970 128,819 200

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