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A91351 A cryer in the vvildernesse of England, declaring the baptisme of the eternall spirit, to be the onely baptisme in Christs kingdome published in Gospel-light, according to the word written in the Scriptures, and the eternall word written in the hidden man of the heart, for satisfaction of those, who are satisfied with truth alone. By Edward Punch of Carisbrook in the Isle of Wight, who is not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, because it is the power of God to salvation. Punch, Edward. 1653 (1653) Wing P4211; Thomason E725_7*; ESTC R206765 72,185 101

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