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A25228 Some queries to Protestants answered and an explanation of the Roman Catholick's belief in four great points considered : I. concerning their church, II. their worship, III. justification, IV. civil government. Altham, Michael, 1633-1705. 1686 (1686) Wing A2934; ESTC R8650 37,328 44

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