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A05223 Dutifull and respective considerations vpon foure seuerall heads of proofe and triall in matters of religion Proposed by the high and mighty prince, Iames King of Great Britayne, France, and Ireland &c. in his late booke of premonition to all christian princes, for clearing his royall person from the imputation of heresy. By a late minister & preacher in England.; Dutifull and respective considerations upon foure severall heads of proofe and triall in matters of religion. Leech, Humphrey, 1571-1629.; Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. aut 1609 (1609) STC 15362.5; ESTC S100271 179,103 260

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sovereign_a soul_n best_a physician_n most_o painful_o and_o diligent_o watch_v over_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n their_o sick_a patient_n to_o uphould_v and_o continue_v they_o in_o christian_a piety_n and_o catholic_a verity_n as_o well_o as_o they_o have_v cure_v they_o of_o their_o spiritual_a leprosy_n and_o raise_v their_o soul_n which_o have_v long_o lie_v sick_a upon_o the_o bed_n creed_n of_o heathenish_a infidelity_n and_o all_o that_o they_o may_v recover_v full_a strength_n in_o save_v and_o believe_v faith_n and_o grow_v to_o be_v perfect_a and_o whole_a man_n in_o christ_n jesus_n and_o here_o you_o have_v the_o occasion_n motive_n drift_n reason_n &_o intention_n of_o christ_n holy_a apostle_n in_o compile_v the_o perfect_a platform_n of_o wholesome_a faith_n and_o christian_a belief_n i_o mean_v this_o methodical_a and_o apostolical_a form_n of_o creed_n which_o involu_v in_o it_o either_o explicit_a or_o implicit_a in_o plain_a word_n or_o necessary_a supply_n whatsoever_o belong_v to_o the_o object_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o therefore_o say_v s._n
further_o i_o find_v that_o the_o jesuit_n be_v never_o so_o strict_a with_o the_o father_n as_o to_o restrain_v their_o credit_n and_o authority_n to_o the_o first_o four_o or_o five_o hundred_o year_n only_o and_o consequent_o to_o accept_v some_o &_o reject_v other_o and_o all_o at_o their_o proper_a pleasure_n as_o the_o protestant_n do_v but_o that_o they_o think_v the_o same_o spirit_n of_o truth_n and_o the_o same_o assistance_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n descend_v also_o to_o the_o father_n of_o the_o succeed_a age_n and_o shall_v do_v unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n 8._o nor_o do_v i_o find_v they_o any_o where_o to_o affirm_v that_o every_o one_o of_o the_o father_n do_v usual_o contradict_v other_o nor_o yet_o be_v they_o ever_o of_o this_o erroneous_a and_o dangerous_a opinion_n that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o each_o particular_a man_n to_o arrogate_v that_o liberty_n and_o authority_n over_o the_o father_n as_o where_o he_o find_v they_o to_o agree_v with_o the_o scripture_n there_o to_o believe_v they_o &_o where_o otherwise_o in_o his_o opinion_n there_o with_o their_o reverence_n to_o reject_v they_o for_o that_o this_o will_v come_v to_o the_o same_o issue_n before_o mention_v to_o wit_n that_o every_o man_n private_a judgement_n shall_v be_v his_o own_o rule_n and_o then_o will_v it_o consequent_o follow_v that_o quot_fw-la homines_fw-la tot_fw-la sententiae_fw-la we_o shall_v have_v as_o many_o controversy_n touch_v the_o exposition_n of_o the_o father_n as_o we_o have_v already_o about_o the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o who_o see_v not_o whereunto_o this_o secret_o tend_v even_o to_o leave_v nothing_o sound_a stable_z and_o certain_a in_o religion_n which_o must_v be_v needs_o at_o last_o the_o overthrow_n of_o all_o religion_n 9_o and_o now_o if_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o every_o private_a spirit_n and_o particular_a man_n to_o judge_v when_o father_n do_v allege_v inconvenience_n scripture_n whether_o they_o do_v allege_v they_o right_o to_o the_o purpose_n or_o no_o then_o arise_v another_o question_n interminable_a whether_o in_o all_o liklihood_n of_o reason_n it_o be_v probable_a that_o that_o private_a man_n shall_v understand_v the_o scripture_n better_o than_o that_o father_n or_o ancient_a doctor_n 10._o and_o as_o for_o the_o rule_n of_o s._n augustine_n suggest_v unto_o his_o majesty_n by_o our_o english_a minister_n for_o patronise_a of_o this_o point_n and_o reduce_v of_o all_o both_o scripture_n and_o father_n unto_o the_o examine_v of_o a_o private_a spirit_n i_o have_v diligent_o peruse_v the_o place_n as_o it_o lie_v in_o his_o second_o book_n against_o cresconius_n cap._n 31._o and_o 32._o and_o upon_o a_o exact_a survey_n of_o the_o place_n i_o find_v that_o s._n augustine_n give_v no_o such_o general_a rule_n or_o warrant_v for_o particular_a man_n to_o judge_v of_o the_o father_n write_n and_o citation_n of_o scripture_n use_v by_o they_o but_o only_o in_o the_o case_n and_o cause_n of_o s._n cyprian_n that_o have_v hold_v contrary_a unto_o the_o whole_a church_n viz._n that_o man_n come_v from_o heresy_n be_v to_o be_v rebaptise_v who_o epistle_n also_o be_v urge_v by_o cresconius_n the_o donatist_n against_o s._n augustine_n tamquam_fw-la firmamenta_fw-la canonicae_fw-la veritatis_fw-la as_o ground_n of_o canonical_a truth_n to_o use_v s._n augustine_n his_o word_n i_o say_v upon_o these_o premise_n the_o say_a father_n answer_v thus_o unto_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n cyprian_a object_v that_o in_o a_o manifest_a point_n of_o heresy_n for_o so_o be_v the_o opinion_n and_o yet_o s._n cyprian_n be_v no_o heretik_a since_o he_o never_o defend_v it_o with_o obstinacy_n against_o the_o church_n but_o in_o all_o his_o opinion_n submit_v himself_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n nos_fw-la nullam_fw-la cypriano_n sacimus_fw-la iniuriam_fw-la cum_fw-la eius_fw-la quaslibet_fw-la literas_fw-la à_fw-la canonica_n divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la distinguimus_fw-la we_o do_v no_o injury_n unto_o cyprian_a when_o we_o do_v distinguish_v any_o of_o his_o epistle_n from_o the_o canonical_a authority_n of_o divine_a scripture_n 11._o and_o afterward_o again_o have_v name_v the_o epistle_n which_o cresconius_n urge_v he_o proceed_v thus_o ego_fw-la huius_fw-la epistolae_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la non_fw-la teneor_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o be_o not_o bind_v to_o admit_v the_o authority_n of_o this_o epistle_n for_o that_o i_o do_v not_o hold_v the_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_a as_o canonical_a but_o do_v consider_v they_o by_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v canonical_a etc._n etc._n final_o after_o a_o long_a praise_n case_n of_o s._n cyprian_n of_o his_o wit_n eloquence_n charity_n and_o martyrdom_n s._n augustine_n conclude_v that_o notwithstanding_o all_o this_o yet_o for_o that_o in_o this_o point_n he_o dissent_v from_o the_o residue_n of_o the_o doctor_n and_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n he_o refuse_v to_o follow_v he_o his_o word_n be_v these_o hoc_fw-la quòd_fw-la aliter_fw-la sapuit_fw-la non_fw-la acipio_fw-la non_fw-la accipio_fw-la inquam_fw-la quòd_fw-la de_fw-la baptizandis_fw-la &_o schismaticis_fw-la beatus_fw-la cyprianus_n sensit_fw-la quòd_fw-la hoc_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la accepit_fw-la pro_fw-la quae_fw-la beatus_fw-la cyprianus_n sanguinem_fw-la sudit_fw-la this_o that_o s._n cyprian_n hold_v different_o from_o other_o though_o not_o obstinate_o i_o do_v not_o admit_v i_o do_v not_o admit_v i_o say_v that_o which_o bless_v cyprian_n do_v hold_v about_o the_o rebaptise_v of_o heretic_n and_o schismatickes_n and_o i_o do_v not_o admit_v it_o for_o that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o admit_v it_o for_o which_o church_n bless_v s._n cyprian_n do_v shed_v his_o blood_n 12._o so_o then_o we_o see_v that_o this_o which_o s._n augustine_n here_o instance_v and_o speak_v of_o compare_v and_o try_v s._n cyprian_n his_o epistle_n by_o the_o scripture_n be_v no_o general_a case_n nor_o common_a rule_n nor_o warrant_v that_o every_o particler_n man_n may_v do_v the_o same_o to_o the_o writer_n of_o every_o particular_a doctor_n for_o first_o s._n augustine_n himself_o that_o make_v this_o examine_v of_o scripture_n be_v a_o great_a and_o learned_a doctor_n yea_o one_o of_o the_o great_a that_o ever_o the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v and_o consequent_o be_v personal_o invest_v with_o some_o more_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n than_o every_o ordinary_a protestant_n minister_n second_o he_o perceive_v right_o well_o that_o the_o opinion_n of_o s._n cyprian_n be_v much_o like_o the_o religion_n of_o the_o protestant_n at_o this_o day_n to_o wit_n new_a and_o dissonant_n from_o scripture_n and_o different_a from_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o doctor_n expound_v those_o scripture_n not_o receive_v by_o the_o catholic_a church_n nay_o and_o that_o which_o be_v above_o all_o condemn_v by_o the_o church_n three_o s._n augustine_n do_v not_o presume_v upon_o his_o own_o 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all_o his_o write_n to_o conserve_v the_o reverence_n and_o just_a deserve_a reputation_n of_o these_o great_a saint_n and_o servant_n