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blasphemous_a and_o protestant_n confess_v by_o protestant_n diverse_a protestant_n confess_v this_o to_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n for_o the_o bohemian_a confession_n profess_v to_o believe_v art_n 17._o that_o our_o lady_n be_v a_o virgin_n before_o and_o after_o her_o childbirth_n protestant_n in_o colloq_fw-la ratisb_n sess_v 10._o p._n 318._o who_o deny_v it_o her_o perpetual_a virginity_n be_v a_o heretik_a zuinglius_fw-la serm_n de_fw-fr b._n virgin_n maria_n to_o 1._o fol._n 350._o i_o believe_v with_o firm_a and_o undoubted_a mind_n the_o pure_a chaste_a and_o unspotted_a virgin_n bring_v forth_o christ_n yet_o so_o as_o without_o any_o spot_n of_o chastity_n she_o remain_v a_o chaste_a virgin_n for_o ever_o luther_n l._n de_fw-la votis_fw-la to_o 2._o fol._n 272._o if_o any_o deny_v marry_o be_fw-mi à _fw-fr virgin_n he_o be_v damn_v beza_n in_o his_o confession_n of_o faith_n c._n 3._o sec_fw-la 3._o profess_v that_o she_o be_v a_o virgin_n after_o her_o childbirth_n and_o why_o put_v he_o it_o into_o his_o confession_n of_o faith_n if_o he_o beleve_v it_o not_o to_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n whitaker_n also_o contro_n 1._o q._n 6._o c._n 9_o dare_v not_o deny_v it_o plain_o for_o be_v press_v with_o this_o argument_n he_o say_v it_o belong_v not_o to_o i_o to_o dispute_v of_o the_o perpetual_a virginity_n of_o marie_n field_n l._n 3._o of_o the_o church_n c._n 30._o if_o these_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o â—ovinian_n that_o marie_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o virgin_n when_o she_o have_v bear_v christ_n and_o that_o all_o sin_n be_v equal_a we_o condemn_v they_o and_o his_o error_n therein_o as_o much_o as_o the_o romanist_n do_v nether_a can_v protestant_n deny_v it_o if_o they_o will_v observe_v the_o definition_n of_o heresy_n which_o sometime_o they_o give_v to_o wit_n error_n against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n for_o 10._o beza_n de_fw-fr puniendis_fw-la haeret._n p._n 150._o moulins_n l._n 1._o cont_n peron_n c._n 7._o potter_n 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566._o feild_n l_o 4._o do_v eccles_n p._n 240._o rivet_v contro_n tract_n 1._o 1._o sec_fw-la 20._o junius_n contro_n 1._o l._n 4._o c._n 9_o to_o this_o point_n of_o faith_n i_o add_v the_o question_n of_o schism_n which_o as_o plessie_n cite_v supra_fw-la c._n 5._o sec_fw-la 2._o confess_v can_v be_v decide_v by_o scripture_n because_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o fact_n of_o which_o the_o scripture_n speak_v not_o and_o yet_o schism_n be_v as_o necessary_a to_o be_v decide_v as_o heresy_n because_o that_o be_v as_o well_o damnable_a as_o this_o 4._o as_o for_o the_o father_n they_o so_o plain_o and_o direct_o say_v there_o be_v tradition_n not_o write_v as_o for_o brevity_n sake_n i_o will_v omit_v their_o word_n and_o relate_v the_o confession_n of_o protestant_n whitaker_n contro_fw-la 1._o q._n 6._o c._n ult._n p._n 415._o i_o confess_v the_o father_n speak_v much_o of_o tradition_n the_o father_n be_v sometime_o deceive_v we_o grant_v that_o the_o father_n defend_v tradition_n ibid._n c._n 12._o i_o grant_v that_o ireneus_fw-la appeal_v from_o scripture_n to_o apostolical_a tradition_n perkins_n so_o perkins_n it_o be_v clear_a he_o be_v deceive_v with_o tradition_n p._n 389._o eusebius_n his_o testimony_n for_o tradition_n be_v plain_a enough_o but_o no_o way_n to_o be_v admit_v ibid._n it_o be_v clear_a that_o basil_n be_v too_o much_o addict_v to_o tradition_n ibid._n damascen_n be_v too_o much_o give_v to_o tradition_n p._n 391._o chrysostomus_n say_v for_o tradition_n be_v 315_o morton_n appeal_n p._n 315_o unaduised_a and_o unworthy_a of_o so_o great_a a_o father_n i_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v this_o his_o tradition_n ibid._n epiphanius_n be_v too_o much_o delight_v with_o tradition_n he_o allow_v indeed_o apostolical_a 20._o seultettom_n 2._o c._n 19_o 20._o tradition_n p._n 392._o let_v we_o not_o regard_n what_o cyprian_n say_v of_o tradition_n p._n 393._o all_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v which_o ambrose_n say_v of_o tradition_n ibid._n ether_n austin_n speak_v of_o unnecessary_a tradition_n or_o he_o contradict_v himself_o p._n 394._o innocentius_n primus_fw-la err_v in_o his_o tradition_n thus_o he_o kemnitius_n 1._o part_n exam._n tit_n de_fw-fr traditionibus_fw-la p._n 140._o excellent_a man_n in_o the_o church_n beside_o scripture_n give_v too_o much_o to_o tradition_n p._n 141._o the_o admire_v of_o tradition_n not_o write_v draw_v many_o good_a and_o excellent_a man_n in_o the_o church_n from_o the_o wholesome_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o be_v do_v in_o the_o first_o and_o best_a time_n of_o the_o church_n soon_o after_o the_o apostle_n tradition_n beg_v a_o to_o be_v thrust_v upon_o the_o church_n this_o opinion_n remain_v and_o stick_v in_o their_o successor_n as_o in_o clement_n p._n 142._o even_o good_a man_n in_o the_o church_n be_v deceive_v by_o too_o great_a esteem_n of_o not-written_a tradition_n p._n 143._o admiration_n of_o not-written_a tradition_n deceive_v good_a and_o great_a man_n in_o the_o 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to_o confess_v that_o the_o father_n avouch_v such_o kind_n of_o tradition_n as_o they_o reject_v whereas_o no_o one_o learned_a catholic_a ever_o grant_v that_o the_o father_n reject_v such_o kind_n of_o tradition_n as_o they_o defend_v nether_a can_v protestant_n produce_v one_o testimony_n of_o any_o father_n which_o express_o or_o direct_o deni_v such_o tradition_n but_o protestant_n infer_v it_o out_o of_o some_o father_n speech_n of_o the_o perfection_n of_o scripture_n and_o of_o its_o contain_v all_o thing_n necessary_a which_o inference_n be_v naught_o for_o the_o perfection_n of_o scripture_n and_o its_o contain_v all_o thing_n necessary_a may_v well_o stand_v with_o tradition_n as_o we_o shall_v see_v hereafter_o 6._o nay_o protestant_n themselves_o be_v tradition_n protostant_n admit_v some_o tradition_n force_v to_o admit_v some_o necessary_a tradition_n not_o write_v brentius_n in_o prolegomenis_fw-la contra_fw-la sotum_fw-la c._n de_fw-fr traditionibus_fw-la we_o grant_v that_o the_o tradition_n wherewith_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o what_o be_v contain_v in_o it_o be_v deliver_v unto_o we_o by_o our_o ancestor_n be_v certain_a firm_a and_o undoubted_a this_o tradition_n be_v necessary_a to_o we_o and_o in_o all_o manner_n to_o be_v embrace_v kemnitius_n part_n 1._o exam_fw-la do_fw-mi de_fw-fr traditionibus_fw-la p._n 113_o this_o tradition_n by_o which_o the_o book_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v give_v into_o our_o hand_n we_o reverent_o receive_v the_o father_n where_o they_o deliver_v this_o tradition_n of_o the_o book_n of_o scripture_n prove_v it_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n morton_z to_z 1._o apol._n l._n 1._o c._n 32._o after_o he_o have_v rehearse_v the_o aforesaid_a word_n of_o brentius_n of_o the_o tradition_n of_o scripture_n say_v this_o lady_n and_o as_o it_o be_v goddess_n of_o all_o tradition_n protestant_n reverence_v more_o than_o you_o papist_n and_o to_o 2._o apol._n l._n 1._o c._n 5._o the_o true_a canon_n of_o scripture_n we_o must_v
honour_v and_o reverence_n as_o the_o queen_n and_o plain_o goddess_n of_o tradition_n and_o l._n 1._o c_o 36._o relate_v the_o foresay_a word_n of_o brentius_n and_o allow_v they_o feild_n of_o the_o church_n l_o 4._o c._n 20._o though_o we_o reject_v the_o uncertain_a and_o vain_a tradition_n of_o the_o papist_n yet_o we_o receive_v the_o number_n and_o name_n of_o the_o author_n of_o book_n divine_a and_o canonical_a as_o deliver_v by_o tradition_n the_o number_n author_n and_o integrity_n of_o the_o part_n of_o these_o book_n of_o scripture_n we_o receive_v as_o deliver_v by_o tradition_n integrity_n of_o scripture_n beleve_v by_o tradition_n tradition_n bel_n in_o his_o downfall_n art_n 7._o p_o 134._o we_o receive_v this_o tradition_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n p._n 135._o and_o so_o this_o tradition_n be_v not_o except_v but_o virtual_o include_v in_o our_o affirmation_n moulins_n of_o tradition_n c._n 3._o and_o 2d_o we_o reject_v not_o all_o 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one_o of_o these_o ibid._n as_o for_o that_o tradition_n that_o the_o book_n of_o holy_a scripture_n be_v divine_a i_o will_v handle_v that_o hereafter_o and_o sec_fw-la 16._o cit_fw-la p._n 81._o against_o this_o tradition_n that_o the_o book_n of_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o church_n of_o england_n never_o except_v sess_n 15._o p._n 57_o it_o be_v not_o deny_v that_o this_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o therefore_o note_n to_o be_v beleve_v protestant_n in_o colloq_fw-la ratisb_n sess_v 11._o our_o adversary_n bring_v that_o tradition_n of_o scripture_n of_o which_o there_o be_v no_o controversy_n at_o all_o among_o us._n and_o sess_v 1._o we_o grant_v that_o moses_n book_n be_v moses_n that_o this_o be_v a_o tradition_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n which_o can_v witness_v that_o moses_n book_n be_v put_v into_o the_o ark._n chillingworth_n c._n 2._o §_o 45._o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n as_o we_o receive_v it_o be_v build_v upon_o universal_a tradition_n controversy_n the_o canon_n be_v build_v upon_o universal_a tradition_n universal_a tradition_n rule_n of_o controversy_n §_o 155._o universal_a tradition_n be_v the_o rule_n to_o judge_v all_o controversy_n by_o §_o 114._o it_o be_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o universal_a tradition_n that_o we_o will_v have_v they_o believe_v scripture_n and_o though_o sometime_o he_o teach_v that_o this_o universal_a tradition_n be_v but_o humane_a and_o fallible_a and_o consequent_o 2._o supra_fw-la c._n 2._o sect_n 2._o grant_v his_o faith_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o all_o that_o be_v in_o it_o be_v but_o humane_a and_o fallible_a as_o we_o have_v see_v before_o yet_o c._n 3._o n._n 45._o he_o avouch_v it_o to_o be_v as_o infallible_a as_o the_o scripture_n for_o thus_o he_o write_v you_o be_v to_o prove_v the_o church_n infallible_a not_o in_o her_o tradition_n which_o we_o willing_o grant_v if_o they_o be_v as_o universal_a as_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o undoubted_a book_n of_o scripture_n be_v to_o scripture_n universal_a tradition_n as_o infallible_a aâ—_n scripture_n be_v as_o infallible_a as_o the_o scripture_n be_v ibid._n §_o 46._o if_o you_o can_v of_o any_o thing_n make_v it_o appear_v that_o it_o be_v tradition_n we_o will_v seek_v no_o far_o hooker_n also_o l._n 3_o §_o 8._o if_o infidel_n or_o atheist_n chance_v at_o any_o time_n to_o call_v it_o scripture_n in_o question_n this_o give_v we_o occasion_n to_o sift_v what_o reason_n there_o be_v whereby_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n concern_v scripture_n and_o our_o own_o persuasion_n which_o scripture_n itself_o have_v confirm_v may_v be_v prove_v a_o truth_n infallible_a lo_o the_o church_n testimony_n be_v a_o truth_n infallible_a and_o we_o may_v rest_v our_o assurance_n upon_o a_o truth_n infallible_a and_o such_o be_v more_o than_o a_o inducement_n to_o faith_n brentius_n also_o in_o the_o word_n afore_o cite_v say_v the_o church_n tradition_n concern_v scripture_n be_v certain_a firm_a and_o undoubted_a and_o morton_n say_v protestant_n reverence_v it_o as_o it_o be_v the_o goddess_n of_o tradition_n 7._o moreover_o they_o grant_v that_o it_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n that_o scripture_n or_o the_o bible_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o as_o such_o it_o be_v put_v in_o their_o confession_n of_o faith_n nay_o hooker_n l._n 1._o §_o 14._o say_v of_o 4._o anglica_n art_n 6._o gallica_n art_n 3._o belgica_n art_n 4._o thing_n necessary_a the_o very_o chief_a be_v to_o know_v what_o book_n we_o be_v bind_v to_o esteem_v holy_a l._n 3._o §_o 8._o the_o main_a principle_n whereupon_o our_o beleif_n of_o all_o thing_n therein_o contain_v be_v that_o the_o scripture_n principle_n protestant_n main_a principle_n be_v oracle_n of_o god_n himself_o laud_v relat_n sec_fw-la 11._o §_o 2._o call_v it_o prime_a principle_n of_o faith_n sec_fw-la 16._o §_o 2._o great_a principle_n in_o divinity_n §_o 6._o great_a principle_n of_o faith_n the_o ground_n and_o proof_n of_o whatsoever_o be_v of_o faith_n p._n 104._o chief_a principle_n p._n 110._o main_a principle_n of_o divinity_n chillingworth_n c._n 2._o §_o 11._o first_o principle_n whitaker_n l._n 2._o de_fw-la scriptura_fw-la p._n 218._o it_o be_v most_o of_o all_o necessary_a that_o the_o certain_a canon_n of_o scripture_n be_v undoubted_a among_o christian_n usher_n rejoinder_n p._n 63_o of_o all_o thing_n this_o be_v most_o sure_a and_o aught_o to_o be_v beleve_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o this_o most_o necessary_a most_o sure_a this_o prime_a this_o great_a this_o main_a point_n of_o faith_n be_v no_o write_a word_n of_o god_n for_o thus_o laude_n sec_fw-la 16._o p._n 70._o there_o be_v no_o place_n in_o scripture_n which_o tell_v we_o that_o such_o book_n contain_v such_o and_o such_o particular_n be_v the_o canon_n and_o infallible_a will_n and_o word_n of_o god_n hooker_n l_o 1._o §_o 14._o be_v persuade_v by_o other_o mean_n that_o these_o scripture_n be_v the_o oracle_n of_o god_n note_n note_n themselves_o do_v then_o teach_v we_o the_o rest_n l._n 4._o §_o 4._o it_o be_v not_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o do_v or_o possible_o can_v assure_v we_o that_o we_o do_v well_o to_o think_v it_o be_v in_o his_o word_n white_a in_o his_o way_n p._n 48._o the_o certainty_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o write_v indeed_o with_o letter_n in_o any_o particular_a place_n or_o book_n thereof_o and_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v not_o write_v with_o cipher_n see_v more_o of_o their_o like_a confession_n supra_fw-la c._n 5._o sec_fw-la 2._o 8._o and_o yet_o hooker_n l._n 5._o §_o 21._o say_v we_o have_v no_o word_n of_o god_n but_o the_o scripture_n principle_n no_o word_n of_o god_n for_o their_o main_a principle_n whitaker_n contro_n 2._o q._n 5._o c._n 18._o we_o acknowledge_v no_o other_o word_n then_o write_v what_o doctrine_n soever_o be_v